Mobil 1 0-40

[ajee622]

Not debating which oil is better. But found a 5 gallon online for $25. Sounds like a good deal. It says the European approved full synthetic. Just wanted to make sure I'm ordering the correct stuff.


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[MacDaddy]

unless you live in alaska or the yukon, would not use.

[V1nny]

unless you live in alaska or the yukon, would not use.

what's wrong with using it elsewhere?

[jpurre]

Walmart has the big jugs (5 qts) of it for $26. Five gallons for $25?

[Audimilo]

unless you live in alaska or the yukon, would not use.

this. Too thin.

[redline380]

Walmart has the big jugs (5 qts) of it for $26. Five gallons for $25?

Yes, would like link to 5 gallon bucket for $25.

[ajee622]

Walmart has the big jugs (5 qts) of it for $26. Five gallons for $25?

this is the one i saw online. i thought it was almost too good to be true. so that's why i posted here. i was just seeing if they made a different version of 0-40 for cheaper

[ENV²]

I know it is the recommended oil and weight for my AMG. Cant see why it wouldnt be good in your car.

[wbrunner23]

unless you live in alaska or the yukon, would not use.

this. Too thin.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Based upon facts via back-to-back Blackstone Oil Analysis reports of my car, Mobil 1 0w-40 does a fine job. Rotella T6 also seems to do a fine job based upon lab reports other have posted (although I have also seen negative reports with T6).

I am partial to Mobil 1 considering the majority of engine wear occurs at start-up, a more viscous oil at cold start (the "0w" part) will have greater performance/protection than a 5w or 10w.

BTW, 40 weight oil is not thin...

[TheRussian]

this is the one i saw online. i thought it was almost too good to be true. so that's why i posted here. i was just seeing if they made a different version of 0-40 for cheaper

That's pretty cheap mobile 1 0w-40. I'm not sure who else makes that weight either. Also I'm fairly certain the factory recommends 0w-30 anyways so that's as close as your gonna get looking looking for oil locally.

Now if your car has some upgraded turbos I would buy some oil with higher zinc content online.

Otherwise mobile 1 "European formula" 0w-40 is the way to go in my humble opinion (someone is sure to quote this and say I'm full if shit, b5 s4 owners are so dang opinionated). My s4 has 236xxxmi and I only run 0w-40. Did the valve covers last oil change... everything up top looks really happy and clean.

this is the one i saw online. i thought it was almost too good to be true. so that's why i posted here. i was just seeing if they made a different version of 0-40 for cheaper

That's pretty cheap mobile 1 0w-40. I'm not sure who else makes that weight either.

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[jaydeff]

Mobil 1 has a rebate going on right now - Click

[Vanimal]

I have had my s4 b5 for about one oil change so far. Changed it with 0w-40w euro formula when I first got it. I have used Mobil 1 in most of my cars in the past full synthetic but they weren't turbo charged.

Most have been telling me the 0w40 euro formula is a tad thin, I have 202k on the dial. I picked up two Rotella T6 for 19.99 for a gallon size jug. I'm going to give it a shot. I assume I won't have any problems. Also replacing my oil temp sensor as I have a Aftemarket one in and it doesn't work almost ever. Have a used OEM one to toss in.

I have no idea what the previous owner used oil wise, the car was stock when I bought it now with just a stage 2 tune and exhaust.

PS: Walmart had the 0w40 euro formula for $26 for a jug.

[V1nny]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Based upon facts via back-to-back Blackstone Oil Analysis reports of my car, Mobil 1 0w-40 does a fine job. Rotella T6 also seems to do a fine job based upon lab reports other have posted (although I have also seen negative reports with T6).

I am partial to Mobil 1 considering the majority of engine wear occurs at start-up, a more viscous oil at cold start (the "0w" part) will have greater performance/protection than a 5w or 10w.

BTW, 40 weight oil is not thin...

Not sure how far that entitlement goes when "opinion" denies common sense, and basic understanding of oil viscosity grading. Obviously, anything ending with 40 is not too thin for 2.7t, unless it is strictly a racing rig with huge turbos, then maybe makes sense to go to ?W-50. While there are other crappy Mobil 1 oils, 0W-40 European Formula is one of the best oils to use in stock or lightly modded 2.7t engine in any climate.

[Audimilo]

I am partial to Mobil 1 considering the majority of engine wear occurs at start-up, a more viscous oil at cold start (the "0w" part) will have greater performance/protection than a 5w or 10w.

BTW, 40 weight oil is not thin...

no no no ...

I should have clarified.. I abide by the opinion that 0w is too thin for start up.

40w is perfect otherwise. a 5w40 is the perfect oil for the 2.7t

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the manual call for a 5w oil per the book?

the horse has been beaten time and time again but for high mileage 2.7t's i do recall Julex and several others suggesting that on older oil pumps that have bigger tollerances the 0w was just too thin.

I too go by the facts, and Blackstone Lab analyze my oil regularly. I too am a FULL believer in Mobil 1's products. In fact, I run their 5w30, which some argue doesnt have enough ZDDP per the new additive packages... (a problem solved by running their M1 High Mileage version). It Blackstones perfectly in my 270,000 Mile daily driver.

[V1nny]

so 0w-40 is slightly thinner than 5w-40 when cold.. Trying to understand how would it be bad for anything or not pumped properly with the oil pump.
as for M1 5w30, problem is not that much with the additives, but with the oil stock itself. For many years Mobil 1 switched to group 3 stocks (straight, or in some case mixed with small amount of Group 4). Only oils marked European Formula still mostly Group 4 esters, like all M1 oils used to be long time ago.

[jpurre]

This horse has been beaten.. but let's give her another shot in the ribs..
What do you guys with F21's or other upgraded turbo's run viscosity wise, 0w-40(me currently) or is a 10w-30 or 10w-40 better?
Looking for the guru's to answer..

[Audimilo]

For many years Mobil 1 switched to group 3 stocks (straight, or in some case mixed with small amount of Group 4). Only oils marked European Formula still mostly Group 4 esters, like all M1 oils used to be long time ago.

Their stocks are fine, and the Lab analysis results time and time again prove it.

additionally to anyone who thinks the additives are not sufficient, its interesting that the Mobil 1 5w30 High mileage has the exact same Zinc and Phosphorus levels as the VAG 502/505 certifed M1 0w40.

ill repost what's been said before on 5w30 M1:

No, its not meant to be run for 10,000 miles, and no its not (VAG 502/505 certifed) most likely for that reason. so: it cannot support the manufacturer recommended service interval. Few oils can- especially at the price point of Mobil 1.

if you run M1 5w30 and change it often as you should, you're good to go.

here's Lab proof:

[Audi9]

These threads are always entertaining, especially when you guys try educating each other about oils, viscosity ratings, etc lol

[MacDaddy]

I've never personally seen a bad blackstone report, makes me wonder how much those guys are actually testing...

what's wrong with using it elsewhere?

there is no benefit, if you live in southern california where a 15W oil pours just fine at ambient outside temperature why would you use something thinner, especially on a 16 year old car where the clerances on everything have worn over the years and a super thin oil is more likeley to cause low oil pressure, valve noise and oil leaks than anything else.

people can use whatever they want, but last time i saw someone saying "never had an issue!" after 100 miles of 0w-40 they were posting up about how their turbos popped a year later, more than just a coincidence if you ask me.

[Penpusher]

I hope the people saying 0w40 is too thin understand that 0w40 and 5w40 are effectively the same viscosity at 212°F - they both have to pass the SAE viscosity requirement tests at that temperature, which is near the normal operating temperature for most engines including the 2.7T.

[ajee622]

Yeah I wasn't trying to start an oil flame war. I don't care what other people use. I used Mobil 1 on my prior s4 for 80k miles and had no issue.

I just wanted to make sure it's the right Mobil 1 because the price seems too good.


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[alphaVR]

M1 0w-40 is VW/Audi 502 00 certified. Those who say "too thin" aren't really aware of how oil viscosity changes and how an oil is given its rating. A 0w-40 and 5w-40 are effectively the same in terms of viscosity when at running temp. At told temp there is a difference, ableit a marginal one, but VW/Audi don't give their seal of approval on an oil unless it's been tested to work in all reasonable conditions. Operative word there is "reasonable". If your car operates in an extreme environment (read: cold or heat), then your oil choice may change but most of us live in temperate zones which are well within spec for VW/Audi's certification.

OP, was this a typo? Did you mean a 5qt jug of M1 0w-40 for $25? I can't imagine a 5 GALLON bucket being only $25... More likely $90 or so... That said, if you meant the 5qt jugs, that's a fair deal but not far off normal retail. I typically buy my oil at WalMart since they always have the best prices and I think M1 0w-40 is going for roughly $26 per 5qt jug.

Rotella T6 is about $20/gallon, which after you add in that extra quart to match what you get with M1 is about the same price. HOWEVER, Shell is often running $5 rebate sales so that helps knock the price down a little more. Granted T6 isnt officially VW/Audi 502 00 certified but I have seen many Blackstone Labs reports for cars running T6 to know it's safe and effective for our engines.

[Vanimal]

I changed my mind and exchanged my T6. I'm going to stick with the 0w-40. Been using it since I bought the car 5k ago and even at 202k I have no funny noises, no oil burning, no leaks. So I guess it's a case of if its not broke don't fix it. And yes Walmart has the 5 quart jug for $26, I bought two since I need 6.5 quarts and I'll save the rest for next change.

I mean it says it's "euro formula" for audi/VW/Porsche/Mercedes. It's getting colder out soon so 0w40 should so the trick. I literally haven't seen a single bad review of this oil. And I know many people who run it with high miles on their s4.

[ajee622]

Yes meant 5qt. Every other place I looked it was about $8-9 a qt.

Have to save where I can!!


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[Audimilo]

I hope the people saying 0w40 is too thin understand that 0w40 and 5w40 are effectively the same viscosity at 212°F

Those who say "too thin" aren't really aware of how oil viscosity changes and how an oil is given its rating. A 0w-40 and 5w-40 are effectively the same in terms of viscosity when at running temp.

jesus. yes yes yes we know that a 40w and a 40w are the same at operating temp. I suppose i should have clarified again specifying the dislike for 0w on startup, at cold temps or in older higher mileage higher tolerance cars.


now, could someone else please tell me how multi-grade 40w's are the same when warm?

[MacDaddy]

because i know if this thread was about using a 5w50 or 10w60 the replies would not be the same.

[alphaVR]

Just going to leave this link here.

Educate yourself, people...

http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/oils.htm

In a 10w-40 for example the 10w bit (W = winter, not weight or watt or anything else for that matter) simply means that the oil must have a certain maximum viscosity/flow at low temperature. The lower the "W" number the better the oil's cold temperature/cold start performance.

The 40 in a 10w-40 simply means that the oil must fall within certain viscosity limits at 100°C. This is a fixed limit and all oils that end in 40 must achieve these limits. Once again the lower the number, the thinner the oil: a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100°C etc.

(emphasis mine)

[UroTuning]

I have had my s4 b5 for about one oil change so far. Changed it with 0w-40w euro formula when I first got it. I have used Mobil 1 in most of my cars in the past full synthetic but they weren't turbo charged.

Most have been telling me the 0w40 euro formula is a tad thin, I have 202k on the dial. I picked up two Rotella T6 for 19.99 for a gallon size jug. I'm going to give it a shot. I assume I won't have any problems. Also replacing my oil temp sensor as I have a Aftemarket one in and it doesn't work almost ever. Have a used OEM one to toss in.

I have no idea what the previous owner used oil wise, the car was stock when I bought it now with just a stage 2 tune and exhaust.

PS: Walmart had the 0w40 euro formula for $26 for a jug.

Ive used rotella t6 with no issues on my other cars :)

[RocksForsSale]

I run m1 0w40 in my vrt and now my s4 but always with the Lucas synthetic stabilizer. Never have had a problem. Run rotella as well with Lucas, rotella seemed a bit smoother.


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