XS Power Tubular Manifold For KKK / OEM Flange Turbos.

[Natejo91]

I have a custom air box and intake. Attachment 122518

Looks like your snorkel is more tapered where it goes into the front carrier so you might not have to trim the hard line for the SJP.
But you won't know until you mock it up on install!
You will definitely need those standoffs though unless you want to fab up your own lines for the PRV and SJP.
I learned the hard way...I forgot that this manifold thread was in the B5 forum and the intake/vacuum geometry must be different because I didn't see this issue mentioned anywhere.

[PSI NRG]

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up! I know there were a few pics posted of a guy still using the PRV lines but didn't see any mention of a standoff being used.

BTW what coating is on your manifold? Looks sweet!

[Natejo91]

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up! I know there were a few pics posted of a guy still using the PRV lines but didn't see any mention of a standoff being used.

BTW what coating is on your manifold? Looks sweet!

It wasn’t the PRV hard line that was the issue, I think that one clears the manifold. But the hard line for the SJP is welded to the hardline for the PRV. (See Image blow, there is a couple of welded standoffs connecting the lines)

The coating is a ceramic coating that I had done at a shop by me. It helps keep the heat in the exhaust stream rather than letting it radiate thru the manifold and into the engine bay. I had my manifold and test pipe ceramic coated to help with heat.

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[PSI NRG]

Ahh OK I see what you mean. I'll have to take a look at that tonight and see if there's a way I can work around that or add some spacers like you did. Maybe even put some silicone hose where it connects behind the head and run that round the other side by the intake manifold around the front.

[Natejo91]

Ahh OK I see what you mean. I'll have to take a look at that tonight and see if there's a way I can work around that or add some spacers like you did. Maybe even put some silicone hose where it connects behind the head and run that round the other side by the intake manifold around the front.

Rerouting and using a silicone hose around the front would also work. You could just tuck it into those prongs on the timing belt cover where the coolant return line for the turbo gets tucked in.
I just didn’t have a silicone hose long enough and just wanted something quick and easy so I could get my car back on the road and reap the benefits from all these mods!


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[ohg]

This thread isn’t exactly dead so I’ll bump it with a somewhat related question, sorry in advance...

For you B5 guys what did you guys do with the PCV system? I know OP (A1 A2 German) has the scavenger system, but what other catch can set ups are you guys running to clear the manifold?


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[HUFset]

Crankcase T’d to head to catch can to pancake valve on TIP.

[PSI NRG]

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Got it all installed. Took forever but got it done!

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Pile of parts left over which I no longer need haha

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Didn’t even have to remove the turbo or exhaust at all. Just undid the coolant and oil feed lines.


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[Ephry73]

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So the suction jet pump (SJP) line is the smaller hardline underneath the larger hardline for the PRV (pancake valve). You will need some standoffs and longer bolts so this line will clear the exhaust. Additionally, if you run the OEM air snorkel, you will have to trim about half an inch off the SJP hardline with a dremel or something. Otherwise the air snorkel won’t fit into place since the SJP line is higher off the valve cover now. I do not have the SAI system anymore but if you do, I imagine it would also need to be on the standoffs to clear the exhaust manifold. Disregard the exposed vacuum and silicone hoses, those will be shielded or replaced :)



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Very clean. What exhaust manifold are you running? I have the K04 and Motoza 550cc tune as well, with the VR6 MAF. Your numbers look great!!

[Natejo91]

Very clean. What exhaust manifold are you running? I have the K04 and Motoza 550cc tune as well, with the VR6 MAF. Your numbers look great!!

Thanks, much appreciated!
I have the tubular manifold purchased off the XS power website. I welded a brace on (as advised at the beginning of this thread) and then I also went a step further and had the exhaust manifold and my 3” 034 test pipe ceramic coated.


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[Ephry73]

Thanks, much appreciated!
I have the tubular manifold purchased off the XS power website. I welded a brace on (as advised at the beginning of this thread) and then I also went a step further and had the exhaust manifold and my 3” 034 test pipe ceramic coated.


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Thanks for the reply. Have been reading the post. Looks like the manifold is the way to go. Any logs yet?


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[Natejo91]

Thanks for the reply. Have been reading the post. Looks like the manifold is the way to go. Any logs yet?


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I’ve got a few logs that I’ve been sending to Motoza for some tune revisions. What kind of data are you looking for?


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[b6a41.8tbagg]

So are you able to run this manifold on the B6 1.8t? Ive read the whole thread just wasnt sure if this was only for the B5. I want to buy the manifold to run on my 71R eliminator its the only thing i dont have to compliment all the other mods.

[b6a41.8tbagg]

This is the one i want to buy but all the vendors say it wont fit which is strange. And this is my motor a tubular manifold would help out a lot.

[Natejo91]

This is the one i want to buy but all the vendors say it wont fit which is strange. And this is my motor a tubular manifold would help out a lot.

I’ve got the XS power version of the manifold right off of their website and I’ve had it installed on my B6 for months now without issue. The manifold you posted looks very similar to mine.


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[b5v6]

This thread isn’t exactly dead so I’ll bump it with a somewhat related question, sorry in advance...

For you B5 guys what did you guys do with the PCV system? I know OP (A1 A2 German) has the scavenger system, but what other catch can set ups are you guys running to clear the manifold?


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Here's my catch can install, one more rubber hose to connect to the TIP. My cat is relocated under the car otherwise I'd be hesitant to use rubber over the downpipe and turbo.

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[PZ.]

Here's my catch can install, one more rubber hose to connect to the TIP. My cat is relocated under the car otherwise I'd be hesitant to use rubber over the downpipe and turbo.

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How is the quality of the cast manifold? Have you noticed a difference in boost onset or turbo lag?

[BARRY]

Any long term updates to report on the XS Turbo manifolds?

[Stock B6]

Literally just wondering this the other day as well. I believe Nate has had his on for over half a year now without issue.

Personally, I'm trying to decide between a 3mm tubular Ebay version and the TC18L cast version. Both are nearly $300, making the tubular a lot less appealing to me tbh.

[avantkrazy]

Literally just wondering this the other day as well. I believe Nate has had his on for over half a year now without issue.

Personally, I'm trying to decide between a 3mm tubular Ebay version and the TC18L cast version. Both are nearly $300, making the tubular a lot less appealing to me tbh.

TC has none, talked to him on Monday. Guess his supplier overseas is not working during the Covid-19. He has no clue when he will be getting them again.....

I got 99 problems and my B5 is 98 of them...

[Stock B6]

TC has none, talked to him on Monday. Guess his supplier overseas is not working during the Covid-19. He has no clue when he will be getting them again.....

I got 99 problems and my B5 is 98 of them...

Yeah messaged them too and got the same response. The one good thing they told me is that it comes with a 12 month warranty and should handle high boost with ease. Still, just for the price I think I'll have to go with the XSPower. Especially since they're currently available.

[b5v6]

Any long term updates to report on the XS Turbo manifolds?

Mine is holding up and it's just as good as any other option out there. I'm only working with an elim2871r so can't really attest to whether it would flow better than competitors. It feels good but real data for comparison and/or bigger turbo might be necessary.

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[BARRY]

thanks guys!

[Beastlyb6]

I just received my XS manifold and XLB. First time hearing about getting a brace welded...I will have to look into getting that done. Also will be installing a catch can and FMIC setup. What is the solution to a 02 sensor relocation...I run a CTS test pipe and the bung is welded directly upright. Possibly to run it in secondary 02 bung?

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[A1 A2 German]

A CTS's bungs should clear, if not you can look into getting thread in 02 90's to point your 02's in a different angle.

At worst weld in 02 bungs are $5 shipped Ebay.

[Beastlyb6]

A CTS's bungs should clear, if not you can look into getting thread in 02 90's to point your 02's in a different angle.

At worst weld in 02 bungs are $5 shipped Ebay.

I bought a eBay one originally and learned the hard way fitting my Thermal R&D exhaust. This is the CTS but I still don’t see how it could possibly fit. And prefer to not run a spacer off as I feel that affects readings. Also hard for me to find the ideal spot for a new bung with out the manifold bolted on. But I’m just trying to avoid down time installing this setup IMG_8617.JPG



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[A1 A2 German]

Yeah that's an issue had the same problem, so maybe the E-Bay models are copied from CTS versions. Not all test pipes have the bungs in the same location so got another, and yeah only use a rear 02 spacer.

My bung ( like yours) seemed like it was tilted slightly towards the head, so I couldn't use it. Mount the new bung straight up and down, 5" back from the test pipe flange. 5" will be more enough clearance to thread, rethread, tighten.

Or, look at post #266 page 7..only slight issue it may angle over and hit an aftermarket heatsheild.

[Beastlyb6]

Yeah that's an issue had the same problem, so maybe the E-Bay models are copied from CTS versions. Not all test pipes have the bungs in the same location so got another, and yeah only use a rear 02 spacer.

My bung ( like yours) seemed like it was tilted slightly towards the head, so I couldn't use it. Mount the new bung straight up and down, 5" back from the test pipe flange. 5" will be more enough clearance to thread, rethread, tighten.

Okay well that will have to be my plan then. I’ll try to get it all fitted an if it clears great if not once I have everything mounted where it’s suppose to be I’ll make and drill a hole for the new 02 location an have it taken to get welded in. By any chance do you know the 02 bung thread type? I’ll order some up tonight as I planned to add another bung for a AFR gauge down the line anyways. And I will be running your setup with the Oil feed line but keep all other lines Oem. Does the .035” restrictor screw directly into the oil feed then an fitting attached to that? Was a little confused these. AN lines arnt my specialty


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[b6a41.8tbagg]

I just received my XS manifold and XLB. First time hearing about getting a brace welded...I will have to look into getting that done. Also will be installing a catch can and FMIC setup. What is the solution to a 02 sensor relocation...I run a CTS test pipe and the bung is welded directly upright. Possibly to run it in secondary 02 bung?

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Where did you order the manifold from? Everywhere i check says out of stock.


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[Beastlyb6]

Where did you order the manifold from? Everywhere i check says out of stock.


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I got mine through a seller on eBay. But this was about a month ago. Still sourcing parts before it all goes together. I’ve seen them on amazon also id check there.


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[b6a41.8tbagg]

Ill check thanks. I have been looking for one of these for a while it would be a nice upgrade the stock manifold is kind of a choke point on my 71R eliminator


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[Beastlyb6]

Ill check thanks. I have been looking for one of these for a while it would be a nice upgrade the stock manifold is kind of a choke point on my 71R eliminator


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No problem! Yeah they look pretty good in person. I’d love to go actual BT but not comfortable pulling the motor in my gravel driveway an letting it sit while I did rods. One day maybe...XLB will do for now.


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