2006 S4 Transmission issues

[drinkbrew]

I recently purchased my first Audi and everything seemed great on the test drive and it drive perfectly when driving "normally". Once I owned it for a bit I tried to see what it had at a little harder throttle. If I got hard enough on the throttle it would red line in first and sound like it was slipping and would not shift into second, once I let off for a few and let the RPM's drop down it will either go back to normal or sometimes it will seem like it is in 3rd and the gear indicator just shows all gear highlighted (see pic). Any idea of what it could be or how bad that damage is would be greatly appreciated. I tried to search, but I'm either using the wrong search terms or just not finding the right thread. I haven't quite figured out where everything is on this forum yet.

[Concavitor]

Happened to me. That is limp mode and it typically means the transmission has lost communication with the ECU. Damage is unlikely. The problem is likely electrical. Get it to an Audi dealer.

[drinkbrew]

Thanks, I was thinking it was some sort of limp mode since it goes back to normal when I restart the car. Do you remember what they had to repair/replace and how much it was roughly? The dealer here wants $160 just to look at it. I can take it easy in 1st and 2nd until I can get it repaired or save up for it.

[Lucca M]

Get somebody with vag com to scan it for you.

[drinkbrew]

I found a European repair shop that will check it for free I just have to make time for an appointment. They will definately have my business over the dealership.

[Lucca M]

When my car was still tip my trans went to limp mode once without a reason had to get it scanned with vag com. As i found out when i did the swap reason was trans filter all clogged up.

[drinkbrew]

I plugged my OBD II scanner in and got P0730 incorrect gear ratio

[blocke]

You need a VAG specific scanner.

[drinkbrew]

I understand VAG-COM scanners have more capabilities, but the one I have was able to read the code and reset the CEL. I'm still looking into a VAG-COM but haven't read up enough yet to know what model I need/want.

[drinkbrew]

I got my Ross-Tech VCDS in the mail today



So can anyone help me with what these codes mean? Thanks


Thursday,06,August,2015,21:35:40:01549
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.0.1 (x64)
Data version: 20150729
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUGL78E46A181912 License Plate: JASON
Mileage: 191070km-118725mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
67 69 75 76 77

VIN: WAUGL78E46A181912 Mileage: 191070km-118725miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
Part No SW: 8E2 910 560 A HW: 8E2 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0030
Revision: --H01--- Serial number:
Coding: 0007771
Shop #: WSC 22130 444 84210
VCID: 2541A124ECE70B1605-8070

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 8E1 910 156 F HW: 09L 927 156 B
Component: AG6 09L 4,2 MPI USA 0030
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 4121161
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2A5B521885F9246E28-807E

4 Faults Found:
001840 - Gear Ratio Monitoring
P0730 - 002 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 11
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 190073 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 4064 /min
RPM: 3968 /min
RPM: 1568 /min
(no units): 66.0
(no units): 102.0
Temperature: 82.0°C
T.B. Angle: 25.9°

001921 - Shift Monitoring
P0781 - 000 - 1-2 Shift - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 190397 km
Time Indication: 0

009984 - Transmission Friction Element / Clutch A
P2700 - 000 - Apply Time Implausible - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 16
Mileage: 190670 km
Time Indication: 0

001922 - Shift Monitoring
P0782 - 001 - 2-3 Shift - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 190972 km
Time Indication: 0


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 E HW: 8E0 614 517 AL
Component: ESP8 quattro H06 0120
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0004902
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2959AD1480FF2F7621-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 2832
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6DD199042797F3568D-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 L
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0504
Coding: 01023
Shop #: WSC 65536
VCID: 3B75675C2963ADE643-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E HW:
Component: SDAR XM
Revision: Serial number: AUZ4Z7E9040485
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B55571C89033D66D3-517C

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 H HW: 8E0 959 655 H
Component: Airbag 9.41 H12 3840
Revision: 91H12384 Serial number: 0036N001A033
Coding: 0032607
Shop #: WSC 98765 666 30530
VCID: 3C7764407F6DAADE4A-8068

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 002 0070

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 35Z1X

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000200000000000ÿ†63

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332DRB40285888E-ÿ†63

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 5888E-ÿ†6342DRB402920C1FPÿ†63

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 20C1FPÿ†6352ARB400AE9C8D5ÿ†63

Subsystem 7 - Serial number: E9C8D5ÿ†6362ARB400A6679F-ÿ†63

Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 6679F-ÿ†63729RB400D7564DVÿ†63

Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 7564DVÿ†63829RB400D756BC ÿ

Subsystem 10 - Serial number: 756BC ÿ

3 Faults Found:
01221 - Crash Sensor Side Airbag; Driver Side (G179)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0

01212 - Belt Tensioner Igniter; Rear Passenger Side (N197)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 13
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0601
Coding: 04141
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 418915B44B8FC73619-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 982 C HW: 8E0 920 982 C
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023261
Shop #: WSC 22130 444 84966
VCID: 2E535E08BA11484EF4-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 920 982 C HW: 8E0 920 982 C
Component: KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0110
Revision: 0110 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0023261
Shop #: WSC 22130 444 84966
VCID: 2E535E08BA11484EF4-5122

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0305
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 71E985743BAF17B6A9-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 J HW: 8E0 035 192 J
Component: RNS-E US3 H71 0110
Revision: 02S Serial number: AUZBZ7E2450219
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2B55571C89033D66D3-517C

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 27
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.02.10
Time: 00:14:57

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.60 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 48
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.02.10
Time: 00:00:30

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.60 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 65535
Clock: 255:255

00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.03.25
Time: 08:48:01

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 608
Clock: 21:28

02446 - Disk Drive Mechanical Malfunction
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 24
Reset counter: 143
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.07.03
Time: 12:00:45


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BT
Component: Komfortgerát T7B 3332
Coding: 11836
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 0407DCA0141D121E72-4B00

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0506

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0506

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0606

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0606

6 Faults Found:
00962 - Alarm via. Tilt Sensor
35-00 - -
01369 - Alarm triggered by Hood Switch
35-00 - -
01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15
35-00 - -
01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
35-00 - -
01572 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Passenger Side
35-00 - -
01573 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Rear Left
35-00 - -

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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E HW: 4F0 907 357 E
Component: AFS 1 H01 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000019
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 285FA8109BF5167E3E-807C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul links H03 0020

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH03 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 J HW: 8E0 035 192 J
Component: RNS-E US3 H71 0110
Revision: 02S Serial number: AUZBZ7E2450219
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 2B55571C89033D66D3-517C

4 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 27
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.02.10
Time: 00:14:57

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.60 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 48
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.02.10
Time: 00:00:30

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.60 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 65535
Clock: 255:255

00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 219
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2010.03.25
Time: 08:48:01

Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 608
Clock: 21:29

02446 - Disk Drive Mechanical Malfunction
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 24
Reset counter: 143
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.07.03
Time: 12:00:45


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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 G HW: 8P0 862 335 G
Component: FSE_255x BT H21 0190
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: 00000000365378
Coding: 0011877
Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
VCID: 3A7B6258765994EE58-5140

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:01)--------------------------

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VCDS Release 15.7.0: SRI Reset
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 920 982 C Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
Component:KOMBI+WFS 4 H14 0110, Coding:0023261
Operation: Please select an operation
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************
Channel Description Unit Current val. New val.
02 Service Reminder Status 1 ---
40 Mileage since Service miles x100 139 ---
41 Time since Service Days 241 ---
42 Min Mileage to Service miles x100 50 ---
43 Max Mileage to Service --- --- ---
44 Max Time to Service --- --- ---
45 Oil Quality 1 ---
46 Total Consumption --- --- ---
47 Soot Quantity km x100 0 ---
48 Thermal Load km x100 382 ---
49 Min Time to Service Days 365 ---
************************************************** ************************************************** ********************

[JayDog747]

Ross-Tech has a wiki page that list fault codes, that should help you with diagnostics. You have two problems:

First one is the transmission fluid and filter needs to be changed. Drive for 2-3k and change the fluid again. Chances are is that it has never been changed.

Second one is you're getting a low voltage fault across multiple devices. Either the battery or the alternator is going out. With the car being 10 years old, I would look at the battery.

[FormulaElement]

I had this same problem on my a6 and many other people with this transmission. The solenoids go bad in the transmission and they cannot fully open the valves. It seems 2006 cars have the problem the most, maybe there was a bad batch of solenoids.

I wouldn't drive it hard until you get the slipping fixed. You will grind the clutch packs down fast.

Does the problem seem worse when the transmission is warm? 80˚C+?

[drinkbrew]

Thanks JayDog747. I looked at the wiki page, but Audi terms are still like a different language compared to the ford's I'm used to working on. I'm hoping a battery and transmission flush will solve some issues.

FormulaElement did you have to pull the trans to replace the solenoids? I'm pretty mechanically inclined but I usually avoid trans work lol. The problem happens anytime my foot gets into the gas, the Temps here are over 100 degrees ferenheit. I'll have to monitor the trans temp while driving and see if it changes when it's hotter. But even right out of the driveway of I give it too much gas it will slip. Right now I just keep it below ~3500 RPMS to keep it from slipping.

[jr1415us]

Valve body and solenoids are accessible under the car when you drop the trans oil pan.

[mgikone69]

^^^^^ how much would a trans service that involved changing the solenoids run. Where can you purchase the solenoids?

When i had a maxima there was a company who would moddify the trans Valve Body to allow faster and more crisp shifts, think they were called level 10 iirc, is there a mod or service which can be done to the S4 VB to allow faster shifting???

[FormulaElement]

New fluids labor and changing the solenoids would probably be around $1500+. You can do it yourself for around $900. The CTSC sells the solenoids, just make sure to get the right serial number off your transmission.

Level 10 makes valve bodies for every car pretty much. You can buy one for your S4. There are other companies also, try google.

[jr1415us]

Parts and valve body overhaul kits are available from Sonnax:

http://www.sonnax.com/parts?utf8=%E2...rder=new&makes[]=VW%2FAudi&makes[]=ZF&types[]=Solenoid&commit=Filter

[FormulaElement]

I am currently doing the pressure overhaul kit from sonnax. I don't recommend anyone doing it unless your very mechanically inclined. The instructions arent a step by step and there is a lot of parts and pieces it doesn't even show And they will fall out when doing the overhaul.

I consider it much harder than the timing guide job....

[mgikone69]

I am currently doing the pressure overhaul kit from sonnax. I don't recommend anyone doing it unless your very mechanically inclined. The instructions arent a step by step and there is a lot of parts and pieces it doesn't even show And they will fall out when doing the overhaul.

I consider it much harder than the timing guide job....

let us know how it all works out. id love to hear what kind of results this gets.