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    Review: ViseeO Tune2Air WMA3000A Bluetooth Adapter 2013 S4 no Nav / Concert

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    My short preface rant: I'm kind of annoyed that Audi can make bluetooth phone calls work in 2013 but not streaming music and relies on an old and slightly dated AMI system of integration. Who honestly would put their iPhone (or droid for those who use those things) in the glove box to listen to music? /rant

    An opportunity at an inopportune time earlier this month landed me a barely used '13 Ibis white S4 with very low mileage. While I wasn't 100% on the silver alcantara gut, the dealer included a 3 year 3M paint and interior package that basically means they will clean or replace anything should it go wrong (coffee spills, dirt, my dog, etc.), which put my mind at ease. It would appear that the original owner chose to spend the money on the seat upgrade but not on the nav package, which at first I was pretty OK with. Mostly because I find factory Nav annoying to use and out dated, and new maps are rarely available. The Concert Audio system has the controls in the 'traditional' location of the head unit and not by the shift knob, which is fine with me, although I know some people prefer the arm rest location. That was not a breaking point for me, either.

    The problem as many of you know is that there is no easy way to stream Bluetooth to the factory sound system, which I'm really impressed with the B&O by the way. Using the SD card is not solid solution for me as I listen to a lot of podcasts, although I do like the option of having it there. Given my car doesn't have nav, I've found my iPhone sits really well on the 'shelf' for the MMI horizontally and is great for using Google Maps.

    I scoured this forum and read everything, reviews on this and reviews on that. Everyone seemed to have problems or qualms with quality, skipping, scratching or audio sounding like the FM transmitters from a decade ago. I was about to purchase the 2dp4audi solution until I read top to bottom on the FAQ page to realize I'd also need to buy a hard wire kit, effectively doubling the cost. I did one last scan on Friday and found the steaming thread so I gave one more look at the ViseeO option.

    The next step was to figure out what the hell the difference was between the slightly more expensive WMA1000 model and the WMA3000 model. Amazon isn't as reliable for reviews as Newegg in my experience but from what I could gather, the 3000 was the newer one and solved a lot of the problems the 1000 had with skipping and static. Ordered it Friday with 2-day Prime shipping and because my area has guaranteed Sunday delivery, it showed up early in the afternoon.

    Ripped the box open, found the device and unfolded the instructions, the Bluetooth access code is the same as my Audi Bluetooth, 0000 and that's all I really read. I headed out to my car, unplugged the AMI to Apple Lightning adapter and put in the ViseeO one. Turned the bluetooth on my phone off, turned the car on, then turned on the Bluetooth for my phone again.

    The phone picked up the new adapter, I paired it and was off. So, let me get the bad out of the way right now:

    • Bluetooth phone calls can't be made through the Concert stereo option when using the ViseeO
    • Can't access streaming audio services (Pandora, Spotify, Sirius, etc.) from the MMI


    That's really it. Again I'm slightly biased but from the person on the other end of the call, all in-car hands free calls sound like poop. I've been using wired hands free kits for 15 years now, back to when Nokia was the leader in cell phones and all phones could do was make calls and play Snake. I'm OK with losing BT phone calls

    The good list:

    • Two 45-minute drives had zero skips, lag, static or other problems, while using Google Maps, Snapchat, texting and about a dozen 'open' apps on my iPhone
    • Sirius streaming to my iPhone / connected via Bluetooth Tune2Air sounds better than the trial Sirius I started last week in the Concert stereo
    • Podcasts are accessible from MMI
    • If you've started a podcast on your phone, in your home, it will start where you left it off in the car
    • Sirius, Pandora & Spotify all work and can be controlled from the phone to stream, MMI displays what is currently playing on the phone
    • The bluetooth pairing is quick from the time the car starts
    • The Audi Bluetooth hasn't tried to fight for the Tune2Air space


    In a nutshell, I'm about as happy as I could be for buying the Tune2Air. It's half the price of the full hard wire kit from a2dp4audi and install takes less than 2 seconds with configuration minimal. Integration is what I've had in many previous cars with similar products and quality is on par without the added need to pull the head unit and plug in the Bluetooth adapter into the CD changer socket.

    Because the sound quality of Sirius streaming to the car directly, most noticeably with the tinny sound in Howard's show, I'll most likely let that expire after the 2-month trial and just stream from my phone, which is what I've been doing for the last 5-6 years anyway. For me and my purpose, the Tune2Air works flawlessly and if it stops, I can quickly return it to Amazon.
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    Thanks for the review.

    Has anyone tried this on a NAV car yet?

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    Wait, I thought B8.5 MMI could stream music over Bluetooth? Some people have upgraded their B8 MMI just to get it. ???
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    Review: ViseeO Tune2Air WMA3000A Bluetooth Adapter 2013 S4 no Nav / Concert

    Quote Originally Posted by turbophreak View Post
    Wait, I thought B8.5 MMI could stream music over Bluetooth? Some people have upgraded their B8 MMI just to get it. ???
    OP's car doesn't have nav.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpeterparker View Post
    Thanks for the review.

    Has anyone tried this on a NAV car yet?
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    Can the wma3000A connect to two phones in the same time? I have a work and personal phone and I keep switching between both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDF1 View Post
    Can the wma3000A connect to two phones in the same time? I have a work and personal phone and I keep switching between both.
    I don't have two phones / rarely have passengers (odd for having a 4-door huh?) but I'd imagine not, as Bluetooth technology works off pairing devices, not sharing devices.
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    You can connect to multiple things via bluetooth.
    Example iPhone can do 7 simultaneous connections
    https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201171#howmany

    Do you connect bluetooth to your car AND the Tune2Air or only Tune2Air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDF1 View Post

    Do you connect bluetooth to your car AND the Tune2Air or only Tune2Air?
    Only to Tune2Air, I personally hate the sound for the caller when I'm using the in-car Bluetooth calling feature. I have a fair amount of business calls in the car while driving and would rather just throw in my head phones, it's a better call for that person. My situation is unique, which I know.

    My advice, buy it from Amazon, they have the easiest and most friendly return policy on earth. If it doesn't work, get a refund.
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    Assuming this is plug-and-play for B8s as well? I had wanted to get one, but I've been gun shy after reading there were lots of annoyances with the WMA1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsh139 View Post
    Assuming this is plug-and-play for B8s as well? I had wanted to get one, but I've been gun shy after reading there were lots of annoyances with the WMA1000.
    I believe the 3000 should work fine as long as you have AMI cord in your glove box. I heard many poor reviews for the 1000 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmeenach View Post
    I believe the 3000 should work fine as long as you have AMI cord in your glove box. I heard many poor reviews for the 1000 as well.
    What jmeenach said. I too spent far too long (over an hour) to figure out what the difference was between the 1000 and the 3000 which is why I wrote this review. I also spent a LOT of time looking at the A2DP4Audi unit and it wasn't until I realized theirs required me to hard-wire the power into my 2013 car that I gave up on that option.

    Long term update, I caved and bought a subscription to Sirius in the car which is mainly used for Howard, but I do still use the Tune2Air for Podcasts. Now and again I have to unplug and replug for it to show up for my iPhone but yea, I wouldn't hesitate to buy this again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmeenach View Post
    I believe the 3000 should work fine as long as you have AMI cord in your glove box. I heard many poor reviews for the 1000 as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Panic View Post
    What jmeenach said. I too spent far too long (over an hour) to figure out what the difference was between the 1000 and the 3000 which is why I wrote this review. I also spent a LOT of time looking at the A2DP4Audi unit and it wasn't until I realized theirs required me to hard-wire the power into my 2013 car that I gave up on that option.

    Long term update, I caved and bought a subscription to Sirius in the car which is mainly used for Howard, but I do still use the Tune2Air for Podcasts. Now and again I have to unplug and replug for it to show up for my iPhone but yea, I wouldn't hesitate to buy this again.
    Cool, thanks. Think I'll pick one up off of Amazon. I have the AMI plug in the glovebox. Currently have my crusty iPod classic plugged in. But, BT streaming would be a nice to have.

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    I bought this after reading the thread and it is working well in my 2010 with MMI/NAV. I am using it with Android and Google Music. So far, so good. Quality seems decent, but I am not an audio snob.

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    Mine works pretty well, too. Sound is good (after you turn up the output volume on your device). I can stream music from my iPhone's library or Pandora. Playlists and files all show up in the MMI and I can pause and skip ahead/backwards using the steering wheel/console buttons. Skip ahead/back with the car controls does not work with Pandora or any other streaming services. Don't even try it, it'll just stop Pandora and start playing a random song on your device. You have to use your device to skip ahead/back. But, this is clearly labeled on the packaging, so I'm fine with that.

    Like others have noted, you just plain cannot use your phone for both Audi phone BT and Tune2Air at the same time without skippage and audio drop-outs. No way around it but to disconnect your phone from the Audi BT while using the Tune2Air (or vice-versa). If this bothers you, do not buy this product. I'm totally fine with it because I don't use the Audi BT all that often, and this is going to be used mainly for road trips when the wife is in the car.

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    Can anyone confirm if you can use the phone to make calls using the wma3000 to broadcast the call on the system speakers?
    I don't expect the audi microphone to work, but the phone should be able to hear you when you speak (i put my phone on a console mount using waze while I drive).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quidproquo View Post
    Can anyone confirm if you can use the phone to make calls using the wma3000 to broadcast the call on the system speakers?
    I don't expect the audi microphone to work, but the phone should be able to hear you when you speak (i put my phone on a console mount using waze while I drive).
    You can, but it doesn't sound great to the person on the other end, at least mine didn't. What I did was in the Bluetooth settings for each device was make sure they didn't overlap. So for the Audi MMI 7848 device it's set for "Call Audio" only. For Tune2Air device I have "Media Audio" only selected, with call audio unchecked. Everything works just like you'd expect. The MMI handles the phone calls and Tune2Air handles your audio streaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbophreak View Post
    You can, but it doesn't sound great to the person on the other end, at least mine didn't. What I did was in the Bluetooth settings for each device was make sure they didn't overlap. So for the Audi MMI 7848 device it's set for "Call Audio" only. For Tune2Air device I have "Media Audio" only selected, with call audio unchecked. Everything works just like you'd expect. The MMI handles the phone calls and Tune2Air handles your audio streaming.
    You must have something other than an iPhone, because I do not see these setting on iOS 9.

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    Has anyone noticed that the amazon price for the "Bovee WMA3000A Viseeo Tune2air" has been dropping for the past week (currently $65, was $72 just last week)?

    I wonder if there's a new version coming out soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quidproquo View Post
    Has anyone noticed that the amazon price for the "Bovee WMA3000A Viseeo Tune2air" has been dropping for the past week (currently $65, was $72 just last week)?

    I wonder if there's a new version coming out soon?
    I'm sure it's more a matter of market fluctuation.
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    Ok, so I got my 3000A last night, plugged it in, linked to my iPhone's Bluetooth and it worked great!
    This morning I turned on the car, my iPhone connected to the tune2air, and I could see my music on the display. However, when I selected a song to play it said could not find and would not play. Waze works through the car speakers, and I was able to get spotify to play the whole ride to work.

    Any idea why my music library is accessible to this device to see on the display, but not to play?
    I disconnected the Bluetooth link and reconnected, no deal.

    I haven't read this complaint from anyone on this forum, that's what caught me completely by surprise.

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    That's a new one for me. I will say sometimes I've had trouble linking the bluetooth and an quick unplug / plug back in fixes this. But I can also say that's true with a bluetooth speaker I have at my office. Give that a shot, first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Panic View Post
    That's a new one for me. I will say sometimes I've had trouble linking the Bluetooth and an quick unplug / plug back in fixes this. But I can also say that's true with a bluetooth speaker I have at my office. Give that a shot, first.
    I reset the iPhone and went to the car at lunchtime all is back to normal. I guess it was the iPhone causing the issue.
    I haven't heard any "skipping" (yet) while connected to the Audi hands-free Bluetooth... We shall see.

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    Did you have to enter the green menus to reconfigure the AMI as an AUX input in order to use the device? I am running MMI 3G with nav and cannot access the green menus so this would be a stopper for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe.ron View Post
    Did you have to enter the green menus to reconfigure the AMI as an AUX input in order to use the device? I am running MMI 3G with nav and cannot access the green menus so this would be a stopper for me.
    It just plugs into the outlet that your iPod does and then you pair your phone with it. It basically then functions identically to an iPod from the MMI standpoint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsh139 View Post
    Mine works pretty well, too. Sound is good (after you turn up the output volume on your device). I can stream music from my iPhone's library or Pandora. Playlists and files all show up in the MMI and I can pause and skip ahead/backwards using the steering wheel/console buttons. Skip ahead/back with the car controls does not work with Pandora or any other streaming services. Don't even try it, it'll just stop Pandora and start playing a random song on your device. You have to use your device to skip ahead/back. But, this is clearly labeled on the packaging, so I'm fine with that.

    Like others have noted, you just plain cannot use your phone for both Audi phone BT and Tune2Air at the same time without skippage and audio drop-outs. No way around it but to disconnect your phone from the Audi BT while using the Tune2Air (or vice-versa). If this bothers you, do not buy this product. I'm totally fine with it because I don't use the Audi BT all that often, and this is going to be used mainly for road trips when the wife is in the car.
    Sorry to bring up an old thread, but just chiming in that I switched to the CoolStream CarPro and my phone connects to both my car AND the BT adapter at the same time with no issues. Calls come in through the Audi BT connection every time, and music resumes playing through the CoolStream BT connection once I hang up without any problems.

    Here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Ada.../dp/B017RVHSSQ
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    TUNE2AIR WMA 3000A issues with iphone.

    Hey guys,

    Just received a brand new WMA 3000A. I have a 2011 B8 S4. I'm using an iphone 7 plus with the latest software, 10.2.1

    Folowed all the steps. Iphone finds the tune2air device and pairs easily. Issue is, the Audi MMI screen just says 'loading..' and no matter what i do, i can't get past that screen.

    Tried rebooting phone, disconnecting tune2air and reconnecting via the iphone as well as physically removing the unit from the AMI connection. Also tried rebooting the MMI setup.

    Can't get it to go past loading or play any music.

    Tried and old LG phone and it worked immediately...

    any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks guys

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