
Originally Posted by
awdspider
At the prices some of these guys want for a catback, i too, would be hesitant to put that kinda money underneath my car. Being that I don't need one that is made out gold and can sit for 16 years in the bottom of the ocean with out rusting, I would like to save money on a noise maker. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks these things are over priced? :dunno:
Magnaflow is at about the cheapest one I can find. I could have one made for far less but the hassle of doing so is almost as equally offensive as some of the cat back prices.
Even at $900 I think magnaflow is steep for whats included, but it is approaching a more reasonable amount. Considering how much little material is actually involved with how far down our downpipes go/where our cbe's begin. The minimal gains (if any at all) other than sound also make it even harder to stomach. Doesn't mean I don't still want it, or any exhaust, don't get me wrong. But like you said - the hassle of going custom, getting the right bends, etc. I suppose the gotta pay to play needs to be said. But $1,000 for a TBE is pretty high I agree. It such a tough argument, because if company's made a $500 CBE everyone would be on here saying the opposite and complaining about the quality. It depends on the market, my dads '08 tahoe has magnaflow catback, and it was just under $700 for some 3" pipe, a tip, and one muffler. Somehow less/smaller pipe, two tips, and one muffler for the A3 comes in at almost $200 more from the exact same company. R&D, projected sales, labor, I am sure it all plays a role.
Saying Remus and magnaflow are on different levels - I am legitimately curious why that is the case? I personally find the Remus to look dated. And unless their exhaust is proven against magnaflows in flow/power, or other technology. I am not quite sure where the justification for its price or that comment is. (please dont take offense, I dont know much about remus, but i do know those tips remind me of late 90's styling :D )
I do find billy boat's welds/construction to be the most visually appealing.
Since I am rambling, I'll add one more point. Can anyone with fabrication or exhaust design experience/knowledge explain to me the recent surge in slipfit and clamp setups vs the old flange and gasket/vband setups we used to see? Almost every exhaust vendor seems to be making sleeve style connections with wrap-around clamps. Since this process and its parts are even more universal, i'd expect costs to come down - but maybe I am wrong. Adjustability is obviously a plus here - but are they less prone to leaks, corrosion, and damage?
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