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    ST VS Vogtland Coilovers

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    Hey Guys,
    I was looking for opinions as to whether or not you guys have any experience with owning these two coilovers and could tell me what you like and what you don't like about each. I ran KW V1's on my B5 and loved them, so I'm a little more biased on ST's but i'm open to others experiences. Thanks
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    I forgot to tell you we also have the new B&G RS2 coils, they go very low and are dampning adjustable. They have adjustable lower mounts that you can lower the car without compressing the springs.

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    man if only there was a company that ran all the coilover options and had a massive review.

    im curious about vogtland gt vs kw v3 vs h&r street coilovers myself.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings espo4442's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I forgot to tell you we also have the new B&G RS2 coils, they go very low and are dampning adjustable. They have adjustable lower mounts that you can lower the car without compressing the springs.
    Man there are a lot of options out there. I've never heard of B&G.
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    Bang for buck I think Vogtland or H&R are hard to beat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by espo4442 View Post
    Hey Guys,
    I was looking for opinions as to whether or not you guys have any experience with owning these two coilovers and could tell me what you like and what you don't like about each. I ran KW V1's on my B5 and loved them, so I'm a little more biased on ST's but i'm open to others experiences. Thanks
    I just purchased vogtland for my b8. I will be making a review thread once installed. I chose these over ST after doing quite a bit of research

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    +1 on the Vogtland will also report after I get them installed.
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    Registered User Four Rings Mike@PureMS's Avatar
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    Have been running Vogtlands for years and thoroughly enjoy them. They're comfortable on rougher roads and still well planted on the highway at higher speeds. Had them on my S5 for the 2 years I owned the car. We have them on a Mk7 at the shop now and the car rides great.
    The shocks are very similar to the shocks that ST uses, while Vogtland is the spring maker on both kits.
    We've been a Vogtland dealer for over 10 years and work very closely with their entire staff. Feel free to email if you have any questions, we have many of the kits in stock ready to ship.

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    Mike,
    Thanks for your input. Any ST owners here?
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    My Vogtlands are getting installed on the 25th. I'll have a review shortly after.
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    H&R, Vogtland and Eibach manufacture springs, Bilstein, Koni and KW manufacture shocks. Not sure about B&G. When you buy a kit from any of them, you will see that they simply buy parts from each other to create the kits. So it is very possible that a KW and Vogtland kit would be a combination of Vogtland springs and KW shocks. Now, do not assume that the shocks and springs are the same part numbers. In all cases if KW buys a spring from Vogtland, KW specified the length, spring rate, and color. Reverse is also true, when Vogtland orders shocks from KW or Koni they specify what they want.

    Long story short, assume little quality difference between Vogtland, KW, Koni, Eibach kits. But there will be model specific differences in shock valving and spring rates. Unfortunately that means that if on a B8 KW got it right, then on MK7 it could be Vogtland. Or in other words, if you loved Vogtland on B5, it does not mean that it will be that good on a B8.

    I kept H&R separate as my limited exposure suggest that they are in bed with Bilstein.
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    So is anyone running the B&G right now?

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    The B&Gs just came out for the B8 and I am not aware of anyone running them. They have always proven to be very low and still ride great. Especially as you can lower the car with the lower mounts without actually compressing the springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    The B&Gs just came out for the B8 and I am not aware of anyone running them. They have always proven to be very low and still ride great. Especially as you can lower the car with the lower mounts without actually compressing the springs.
    Sounds like we need a guinea pig ehh

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I forgot to tell you we also have the new B&G RS2 coils, they go very low and are dampning adjustable. They have adjustable lower mounts that you can lower the car without compressing the springs.
    I couldn't find them on your website. What do they cost, what is the range of height adjustability relative to stock height, are they stainless steel or coated, who actually manufactures the springs and bodies, and are they a legitimate competing product to PSS10?
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    I don't think we have them on the site left and here are some specs
    http://b-gsuspension.com/coilovers.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    I don't think we have them on the site left and here are some specs
    http://b-gsuspension.com/coilovers.php
    Okay, I read that page, but not all things were answered there. Could you at least post the price range we're talking about? That might help convince someone to take the plunge. Possibly myself.
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    Retail is $1299, but I can do better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@fifteen52 View Post
    Retail is $1299, but I can do better than that.
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