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  1. 03-02-2015 10:02 PM #1
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    Which is faster, Stage 2+ A3 or B5 A4 Frankenturbo?

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    Never seen this comparison anywhere online, my brother just bought an A3 and is already talking shit, saying it'll smoke my A4 Frankenturbo once he gets his A3 tuned. Just wondering if it's possible...lol
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  2. 03-02-2015 10:15 PM #2
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    apr is claiming 291 whp.
    that would lead me to believe that the a3 is faster.
    FT is 240whp max
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    Apr doesn't give whp they give crank power. And no way a 2.0t is putting 290 to the wheels without a bigger turbo.

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  4. 03-02-2015 11:22 PM #4
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    Their little dyno graph sad whp or crank hp. Maybe I read it wrong. Or that was for the s3


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  5. 03-02-2015 11:45 PM #5
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    Depends on your version of a "Stage 2" and what model year A3.
    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...0-TSI-Gen3-MQB
    The stage 2 in that thread is the newest generation A3. You'd never be able to touch that thing.

    EDIT: Stage 1 software WHP numbers (this is only a tune): http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-GTI-Worldwide!
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    Sup Ray, how's the 2871r treating you? I might go that route now..lol. Well, as for my brother, the DSG is pretty fast and APR claims crank HP.
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  7. 03-02-2015 11:49 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris164935 View Post
    Depends on your version of a "Stage 2" and what model year A3.
    http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...0-TSI-Gen3-MQB
    The stage 2 in that thread is the newest generation A3. You'd never be able to touch that thing.
    His is the 8p, not the newest model. He's got the DSG though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 10kredline View Post
    Sup Ray, how's the 2871r treating you? I might go that route now..lol. Well, as for my brother, the DSG is pretty fast and APR claims crank HP.
    Hello there.
    It's treating me well. Picked up a 2.0 block/rotating assembly so that will be going in before April. Should be perfect for what I am looking for.

    I love the A3 btw. It's basically the same size as the b5 which I find to be perfect.


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    edit: nevermind i don't really remember.

    I've driven both a Stage 2 B7 A4 and a FT F4H-L B5 A4 and B5 passat (awd). I'm fairly certain the B7 was quicker. I'm also pretty sure the K03 in the FSI is about the same size as the K04-015.
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  10. 03-03-2015 01:56 AM #10
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    This is dumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpsmith View Post
    This is dumb
    Don't read it then...
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    It's better then "will 18x8 wheels fit my car pls help I've searched"


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    Quote Originally Posted by mpsmith View Post
    This is dumb
    Audizine has changed over the past couple of years since we've got guys like this joining...
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    How does the A3 2.0 compare to the new Audi tt 2.0? Because that is listed with 400 bhp running 26psi per the front page of Audizine a whiles back.
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    different animal all together and remember the ko3 of today are far different/better
    than the ko3's of yesterday many times over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demonmk2 View Post
    different animal all together and remember the ko3 of today are far different/better
    than the ko3's of yesterday many times over.
    Bingo...
    IIRC both compressor and turbines are 'larger'. Not all K04s are the same, just like not all K03s are the same. Also, the new 2.0T is a much more efficient engine at making power/torque due to the Direct Injection. My brother in-law's '06 Jetta with APR ECU will pull over 200g/sec through the MAF. That's *strong* 1.8T K04 numbers...and he's still on the OE K03.
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    He will win. Just race him already.
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