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    I am not the type to give bad reviews on companies, but this one is long overdue.

    I purchased the Red Label turbo kit from these guys a while back, and it has not been an easy road. And bottom line it all comes down to craftsmanship with customer service. When I first received my manifold, it was warped. When talking to others who ran this kit, they all said theirs was also warped when arrived. RAI said they used a belt sander on them before shipping, but I doubt that happened at all. So, this equates to all of is having to spend money for a machine shop to make all the flanges flat. Quality control should have been done before it left their facility.

    I have sent this manifold in twice so far for warranty repair (last one done recently). And honestly, there is no reason that I would have to wait three weeks to get it back...just to find out it was warped yet again. Now I will have to spend money at a machine shop to get the flanges milled...again. Their work is sub par.

    Here is what I am taking about. Reason it was sent in was because of a sh*tty weld. If they come in to this thread to try and defend themselves, I have a welder in my shop (machinist...but does not have a milling machine) who already told me about their sh*tty job. Along with that, already had him weld small fractures that would have ended up being big cracks in no time. Then when brought to the machinist I use, he also said how sh*tty the welds are.

    Reason it was sent in





    Now, a correct fix would be to make a jig, cut off piece of pipe with the broken weld, grind off old weld, and weld in new piece of metal (reason for jig, to keep track of flange placement). But instead what they do it just throw a whole bunch of weld over the old weld. As stated, craftsmanship is sub par. It is just a big glob of weld. It's like these guys don't even care.





    If I wanted that done, I would have just had my shop machinist do it for free and avoided downtime. But...I thought they were going to do a proper repair. So, I pay $12.xx USPS to get it there, like $40 UPS to get it back (what they used), received a bullsh*t fix, and flanges is warped to top it off. Anybody who knows, knows that the flange will warp due to the heat from welding...yet they basically didn't give a f*ck and sent it back to me without addressing it. And with the amount of glob that they call a repair (weld) which took a fair amount of heat to apply, I bet they now just compromised the other sh*tty welds on the manifold.



    Used a couple of straight edge items in my house, ultimately ending using a glass from a table to confirm it is indeed wrapped...again. My advice, stay away from RAI.

    Flange exactly how I sent it, with marks from my exhaust manifold basically showing they cared less...yet they of course knew it was warped (how could they not know it wouldn't warp) and sent it right back to me that way.

    Not to mention the fact they will throw you under the bus and not honor their lifetime warranties. How do I know, you ask? Well, there was an issue with my manifold like a year ago. What happened is one of my cylinder head to exhaust manifolds backed out. It was one all the way at the end and on furthest corner. This left that end of the flange basically lifted up a little bit. I called them up to ask about a warranty repair. They said the repair that I wanted could not be done and I would need to pay to have a new manifold made. Yeah?????? Great customer service right. Go see my local machinist and he fixed what they said could not be done and it was quite easy (same who said how bad RAI's welds are). He basically heated the flange to make it as flat as possible, then milled it when done to save as much material as possible. Like they could not have simply taken off the flange that sits on the cylinder head and weld a new one on, but that is a whole other topic (different ways to skin a cat, yet they said it simply can't be done). Bottom line...STAY AWAY FROM RAI. If anybody else had a bad experience with them, please chime in.
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    I ddidn't read the OP yet, but damn those are some nice welds
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    The yellow light lamp I took the pictures under is helping them out here. You need to see this thing in the real light. I'll put those pics up later.
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    To share my experience is a long one:

    I went to RAI years back when they were a reputable shop here on the forums. I contacted them about doing drop in rods, custom fmic, piston rings, and clutch. I went down with $4,000 cash as a deposit. I was told this is plenty for them to get going. I was told that it would be a week to do the work.

    Little did it know..

    For the first 3 months I was given the run around. "IE sent us the wrong rods, IE doesn't make rods for your car, you need SCAT rods" The project needed up taking 8 months and it was bc they thought my ATW was a 06a bottom end. They see AEB motors all the time and in the process of finishing a b6 in the middle of my build. This was total bs.

    During the entire time, I kept in contact with them about my bill. Asking how much they needed and I was ALWAYS under what I deposited. They also went through 2 front desk guys so it was hard to keep up with updates.

    I surprised them one time in the middle of winter. My car was outside and I had to buy AC components bc they froze over and broke. They said they had just moved my car out to get others in. I go out and notice 2" of ice formed around my car while it's bare underneath. . Really? Just pushed it out? AC never worked and they still owe me a compressor for free..

    During this time of not having a vehicle, I racked up $$ on rentals and plan tickets when I could have driven. During this time, it was over $3,000 in expenses when fuel alone would have cost me under $700 If my car was done.

    They contacted me 2 days prior to picking the car up and said my total was just over $7,5xx. What!? How do I owe $3500 when you said I was under the entire build? $2,000 was all labor. .

    They never gave me a price on the fmic until it was done. $1200! I could have bought a ER fmic for almost half that. No heads up, nothing. I later sold it for $350.. welds were disappointing and the plumbing was flared and sharp.

    A lot of small shit added up due to it sitting outside for weeks, maybe months. I later found out from a good source, not saying who, that my deposit was used on other car builds. It wasn't til those cars were done, that my car was touched.

    At pick up, the test drive went well beside the exhaust leak I asked to have fixed. I had to wait additional hrs til I could drive from RAI to SC. The car drove fine.

    Since then I have learned to work on my own cars. I've rebuilt my last motor in 14hrs, start to finish. That RAI motor has since melted. It looks like casting shavings but there is a possibility that some foreign piece could have made its way in the head while in pieces. the head was exposed for about 5 months.

    I'm sure I missed a few things but there it is.
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    Mitch, Im sorry to hear this man. I hope you find something better. I have also been disappointed by RAI, I feel your frustration.
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    So what I did today was heat the manifold and clamp both ends down on a straight metal work bench. Let it sit for the day like that. After a full day (12+hrs), the flange is really flat. But...not perfect. But perfect enough to now be milled (won't lose much material). Met a machinist on here that lives close by and just dropped it off to him and will be done tomorrow. He is going to mill the flange that goes to the cylinder head and use a flat wheel to clean the T3 flange. You want a job done right, you got to do it yourself (and pay out of pocket).
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    LOLLLL RAI has been doing this for what, 3 years now??? don't fucking buy shit from these people, it will not fit.

    if you take your car in on a tight time limit, they'll use your car for R&D

    if their parts don't fit, they'll throw washers wherever they can to get them to fit.

    if they strip a bolt, they will just leave it there

    if they do a motor build and have 12 random assorted bolts left, they will trash them

    if they do a custom tune, you won't be able to drive your car for the first 2 min after starting it, otherwise it will fall on its face and die. No joke, no exaggeration, this is the level of quality they are satisfied with giving customers, telling them "that's just how it is"

    how dumb do u have to be to make a crash bar disfunctional? fucking careless work. its a goddamn hunk of metal. how do you fuck that up, you ask?? how could you possibly?? well, you cut out the areas required to hold the bumper on properly. why?? because their front mount doesn't fit properly SHOCKER. while we're on the frontmount, i have 3 tabs on each side to mount (R&D / NFG typical bullshit) that are sawed off, and its being held on by ONE mount because (of course) the other mount broke off because their welds are less legit than superglue

    my unborn children could weld better from the womb. its fucking embarrassing. or it should be, but if someone/some shop has ZERO sense of liability or pride in their product, i guess it wouldn't be embarrassing to them. but i'm plenty embarrassed for them.




    terrible fucking shop. fuckin terrible. i could go on for hours (like how my motor died 1700 miles after a build, or the countless things i've had to replace not related to the motor failure, just to get it back to a functional point), but at this point if you're still going there i just feel bad for you. Seerlah you are a cool dude, i hate to see you dicked by these assholes


    bottom line: RAI is here to take your money and give you shit for it. shit welds, shit fitment, shit products, zero accountability.

    and YES I'm borderline being immature about it but hey when you drop $20k at a shop you'd expect your fucking custom made manifold to fit and not have a warped flange (AKA actually fucking hold the air its meant to direct). if i could without it being horribly obvious it was me, i would shit on their doorstep every morning. i want a fucking refund (2.5 years later i still want a refund, but hey after 100 promises of halfway decent accountability, i can't even get a functional crash bar).

    FUCK. RAI. the ONLY good thing they did for me was force me to pull apart my motor and learn how to do every last thing myself. so thank you for being such a group of **** bucket whores that i had to do your job for you, after you did it, just to clean up your goddamn mess.
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    I bought a J spacer for my O2 from them and it took over a month and a half to show up. Turns out UPS lost the original package or it was stolen enroute... depending who you believe... It was a $40 transaction.

    Seerlah: Sorry to hear, live and learn, and yes sometimes you buy something like that manifold as a core and then upgrade and improve it to last.

    Vice: You sound like a stand up trusting person but I would never have put $4000 down as a deposit on anything. I have seen it before with shops, once they get a lump sum like that they slow down, maybe because they dont now have to rush to get the money they already have it in hand... All I know is Ive learned to never pay in advance for anything (keep them honest). I do the same for my clients, I tell them never pay me in advance. Its easier on me and them if something goes wrong during the project.
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    Since everyone asks me why not to buy from RAI here's a resume of the story :

    I ordered a hfc downpipe/hfc cat combo from them.

    They put the wrong value on the box so I ended up paying a penalty at customs. (They put 20$ in value...)

    Paid 200$ to install it (dont have a lift), it woulnt fit, called them and the only choice they gave me was to send it back to California... So I paid 90$ in custom penalty because of them, 200$ in labor to try to fit it, 150$ to have it fixed so that I could sell it. The guy who fixed it (same guy who made my turboback afterwards and the DMCC roll cage approver) said he never saw welds so weak, the penetration was so bad he showed me he could break the weld with is hands.

    They used to offer good products, not anymore.

    Btw it happened to a LOT of us, search the forums. I had about 10 PM's from people with the SAME issues, it would touch the transmission crossmember at the exact same place.

    On this picture you can see what we had to replace so that it would fit and I could sell it back:


    You can clearly see on the picture above their welds compared to my friends weld. Night and day.
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    oh yeah, i knew i was buttfucked the second i picked up my car... there was a EFR mk6 in the shop there, the owner of the car was just cussing out the tech, i was like holy shit dude that guy is going off (thinking Ray is my friend, and me being a very very upfront guy) so i ask ray what's up with that guy? he gives me some cock n bull story about how the kid is a total dick all the time etc etc and drops mad cash there so they deal with it.

    i walk over to the kid who is losing his shit, he has a F+R Brembo BBK that they installed (no emergency/hand brake), he left and after 5 miles lost entire braking pressure from his pedal. ZERO brakes, so he somehow survived the trip back to the shop and they had left his brake lines on his exhaust manifold and they melted through within 5 miles.

    this could have KILLED HIM, LITERALLY. And the best Ray (owner of RAI) had to say was that he was a spoiled kid. That was the BEST explanation Ray would give me - a zero accountability report blaming the CUSTOMER lmao!!!! its literally unreal. you can't make this shit up. Spoiled kid or not, i would have lost my shit also but after they were done fixing it i would have knocked someone the fuck out.

    from that moment, i knew i was fucked. TERRIBLE workmanship. clearly ZERO fucks given about their clients or their clients' cars. the only word that can be used is pathetic.


    honestly have put all this behind me, but seeing more people having their money straight stolen, i'm thinking i need to report my experience to the BBB, and tell them there are plenty of other people with the same experience (maybe we should all report them). they should not be allowed to do business selling parts, let alone work on cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axis View Post
    Since everyone asks me why not to buy from RAI here's a resume of the story :

    I ordered a hfc downpipe/hfc cat combo from them.

    They put the wrong value on the box so I ended up paying a penalty at customs. (They put 20$ in value...)

    Paid 200$ to install it (dont have a lift), it woulnt fit, called them and the only choice they gave me was to send it back to California... So I paid 90$ in custom penalty because of them, 200$ in labor to try to fit it, 150$ to have it fixed so that I could sell it. The guy who fixed it (same guy who made my turboback afterwards and the DMCC roll cage approver) said he never saw welds so weak, the penetration was so bad he showed me he could break the weld with is hands.

    They used to offer good products, not anymore.

    Btw it happened to a LOT of us, search the forums. I had about 10 PM's from people with the SAME issues, it would touch the transmission crossmember at the exact same place.

    On this picture you can see what we had to replace so that it would fit and I could sell it back:


    You can clearly see on the picture above their welds compared to my friends weld. Night and day.
    Same problem on mine, I managed to get them to swap out my dp with one that did fit. However within 20k miles the flex pipe cracked at the welds and was leaking. I haven't even bothered talking to them about it. The DP now lays on the ground in my garage waiting to be recycled.
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    I could take a quick 6 week (2 days a week) tech class on mig/tig and bet I could do a better job. Matter of fact, youtube videos would most likely get it done. I'm an hvac tech and brazing/soldering comes with the territory. Pretty sure it isn't that difficult. Its really like they don't even care. Ironically, caring is all it would take to avoid complaints like these. And this is just from the few people who stumbled upon this thread. Imagine all the other stories out there!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerlah View Post
    I could take a quick 6 week (2 days a week) tech class on mig/tig and bet I could do a better job. Matter of fact, youtube videos would most likely get it done. I'm an hvac tech and brazing/soldering comes with the territory. Pretty sure it isn't that difficult. Its really like they don't even care. Ironically, caring is all it would take to avoid complaints like these. And this is just from the few people who stumbled upon this thread. Imagine all the other stories out there!!!
    i watched my friend get a welder and in two days was welding better than their welds. at first i was impressed, then he told me the welds he was doing were still shit and he needed way more practice. LOLZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraggyA4 View Post
    Same problem on mine, I managed to get them to swap out my dp with one that did fit. However within 20k miles the flex pipe cracked at the welds and was leaking. I haven't even bothered talking to them about it. The DP now lays on the ground in my garage waiting to be recycled.
    A flex pipe under the car is an "excelent" idea to begin with...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drumnjuny View Post
    i watched my friend get a welder and in two days was welding better than their welds. at first i was impressed, then he told me the welds he was doing were still shit and he needed way more practice. LOLZ.
    Within a month of owning my TIG welder, I was doing aluminum welds that are light years better than the welds on my RAI fmic. I'll post up my full bitch list later about everything I've bought from them.
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    My plan was to have a tubular manifold made by a friend of mine, along with downpipe (owe him like $150 more with my payment plan), and resell this RAI setup. But I really don't want to place that burden on someone else (I'm not that type of guy). Thinking to sell it for dirt cheap and have them deal with whatever issues happens with it. That seems fair (I'll give them full disclosure).
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    Apparently RAI hasn't figured out that you should bolt the flange to a large chunk of aluminum to help prevent warping.
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    The flange that mates to the head was incredibly bowed by a couple mm. What I did was use an air acetylene torch to heat the manifold, while slowly cranking down the clamps on each end to a thick flat solid steel work bench (confirmed with straight edge before I proceeded. but these were made by our shop machinist, so I should have known better anyways). After I was finished, I thought about why didn't they do something like that in the first place?!?! Clamp it down tight and weld. But still after that, make sure it is still flat before sending it back. Paid $50 to get it milled and T3 flange bead blasted (machinist said I did a really good job making it that straight, and he was going to do the same thing if I had not done it). So this whole fix cost me around $100 (shipping and milling) when it should not have happened in the first place (I blame quality of material used a sh*tty weld).

    To top it off, bring it home after that work is done to try and install it just to find out it got distorted to the point that it would not go on my cylinder head, due to the studs being slightly off. This portion I can blame myself "partially", as I heli-coiled one replacement stud in. But manifold fit fine before, and now it didn't. That is why I said I blame myself partially. So now I have to wait to the next day to go into work and use the drill press. Opened the top holes (left bottom ones alone) to 7/16" each and it did the trick. Regardless of the matter, this whole ordeal took 3-4 weeks to get done. Now, imagine if this was my only car!!! Roughly $100 out of pocket with an added 4 weeks of car rental fees is sort of unacceptable. My work commute is roughly 33-35 miles each way.
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    I bought their HFC/DP combo a couple years back and after struggling to install it and having no welding/cutting tools, I got frustrated and took it to a shop. I get a call saying the downpipe won't fit and they are going to have to cut it up and re-weld in order to get it to fit. I thought the shop made a mistake but I just wanted the thing installed so I told them to do whatever was necessary.

    I call RAI and tell them about the issue, they tell me to email them photos. I do, and no response. I call them again and they make up excuses about how they never got the email. I send the photos again and get no response for two weeks. Then they email me back stating that they had problems with their jig or something. No offer to make things right. I call them and explain what I had to pay in order for the shop to fit the downpipe, the gentleman on the phone literally chuckles and says "thats absurd, the shop must have tried to install the downpipe wrong." They refused to do anything about it.

    I still somewhat blamed the shop for whatever reason, but then I stumbled across all of the fitment issues other people were having with the downpipes hitting the tranny. I fell in the exact same boat. Fuck RAI. Rather than do what's right they blame the customer. They know they messed up.

    The downpipe now hangs a bit low and I often scrape the flex-pipe over large crests. I'm very surprised that the piping hasn't snapped at the welds yet, that could be due to the proper welds the exhaust shop added.

    Just wanted to share my piece of the rotten pie. I still wonder why people buy anything from them, they should be out of business by now with all of the negative reviews and customer experiences.

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    i'm 10 years in as a welder, from getting cough by the boss welding razor blades together to building water towers. Those welds are some of the worst i have seen being sold to the public.
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    You guys need to share your experiences so that more people don't get screwed. They appear to have 4 / 5 star reviews on all of these sites.

    Below are their Yelp and Google review sites, as well as their Facebook page where there is a "Reviews" section on the left side.

    Please leave your experiences at the sites below.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    You guys need to share your experiences so that more people don't get screwed. They appear to have 4 / 5 star reviews on all of these sites.

    Below are their Yelp and Google review sites, as well as their Facebook page where there is a "Reviews" section on the left side.

    Please leave your experiences at the sites below.


    http://www.yelp.com/biz/rai-motorsport-dundalk

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...13f98dc3c94e,1

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/RAI-Motorsport/
    damnit, you're right. but honestly anything i say Ray will lie and discredit me, so i feel like there is no point. as a garage i'm sure they can perform simple services without any issues, but buying parts from them is a huge huge mistake.

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    Welp I was seriously considering this company if I ever went BT. I'll pass on them now.
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    And one more thing! They don't know how to make a goddamn manifold!


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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Within a month of owning my TIG welder, I was doing aluminum welds that are light years better than the welds on my RAI fmic. I'll post up my full bitch list later about everything I've bought from them.
    Kinda forgot about doing this, but here goes:

    RAI catch can - For starters, they didn't send me everything. It was missing the boost tap for the intake manifold and all the fittings that go with it. This would have prevented me from installing it, but I had a BSH revamp kit that had a cap I could use. I called RAI and got Ray on the phone. I asked what all the kit was supposed to come with since I believed I was missing some parts. He seemed agitated that I couldn't tell him what was missing. I might have known this had they included ANY instructions or inventory lists. At that point in time, I didn't understand the B7 PCV system and had to try to figure it out based on pictures on RAI's website. This is what clued me in to the missing parts. The hoses are NOT braided stainless as advertised, they are braided nylon covered rubber mated to the worst quality hose fittings I have ever seen (Phoenix fittings). The fittings were purpleish instead of black also. The catch can itself seemed to be ok, except for the sharp (seemingly unfinished) edges on the bracket. Ray ended up overnighting me the missing parts, which I never ended up using. The nicest part of the kit was the PCV plate, since it is actually made by Integrated Engineering. I suspect the boost tap was also.

    RAI FMIC - Yet another product that came with ZERO paperwork/instructions. It included a random assortment of off-the-shelf aluminum tubes and bends as well as couplers. It's up to you to figure out a configuration that works. I have found two so far that work, and neither one works well. The brackets on the FMIC are laughably welded on. One of mine broke in half when I was tightening the bolt to the crash bar. The core is supposedly a Garrett core and looks decent, but there was only an absolute minimum of thought put into the piping layout. I'll be welding up my own custom IC pipng in the future when I get time to correct the issue. It took them approximately a month and a half to ship this from the date of order also. I can understand they are probably made to order, but anything beyond 2-3 weeks is excessive in my book. Especially with the sub-par quality of what I got.

    RAI downpipe with HFC - This is the one that pisses me off the most. Like the FMIC, it took way to long for this to show up. When it did, it showed up with the turbo flange loose in the box. Not broken off, but never welded on in the first place. It was a K04 flange to boot. It turns out this particular DP was supposed to go to a guy in England. Another phone call to Ray and they send me a shipping label to return it to them. A week or so later, my DP shows up. To my then uneducated eye, the welds looked ok, but not great. Now they flat out look like shit. They also forgot to send me the K0R install kit that I paid ~$80 for. That showed up a few days later after another phone call. Fast forward to the DP being installed on the car: It rubs the axle heat shield and sticks down really low on the bend at the bottom. I modified the heat shield to keep the DP from rubbing with a good bit of grinding. The lowest point of my car is that fucking downpipe bend that sits unnecessarily low and it scrapes on everything. I'm not even that low (~25.5-25.75" FTG). Right about in this same spot is the flex pipe, which is fraying and gouged from scraping on everything in sight.

    K0R-GT turbo - I bought this used from DavidAAG, who got it from another AZ member. DavidAAG was never able to get it working properly on his car and spent waay too much money trying to figure out why. It turns out that the WG actuator rod was binding and only allowing the WG to open ~⅛-3/16" and as a result, he was constantly overboosting. I realized this and corrected it with help from Shiro (who's K0R had a similar issue) before it was installed on my car. Since that issue was fixed, the turbo has performed well for me. It should though, seeing as how it is just a BW S3 K04 with a machined K03 compressor housing slapped on it and modified studs to mount to a k03 turbo flange. Yet somehow, RAI claims the K0R puts out waaay more power than a K04. Not quite as shady as what Frankenturbo did with the F23L, but not very honest either.

    There is nothing wrong with their products conceptually, but when it came to execution, they fell flat on their face. It's like no one there gives a flying fuck about the stuff they are sending out to paying customers. Everything is half assed and it shows. If I were to do it all over again, I would not purchase a single one of these items. They only reason I got all of these things from them, is that I bought them all in the span of about 2 weeks. They would not have had a repeat customer if I had spaced out the purchases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mec View Post
    And one more thing! They don't know how to make a goddamn manifold!


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    You should post pictures...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    You should post pictures...
    i don't have any on hand. all in my build thread though. Had to modify that manifold 5 times to get it to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mec View Post
    i don't have any on hand. all in my build thread though. Had to modify that manifold 5 times to get it to fit.
    Just posted my experiences on Google and facebook reviews. I was gonna do Yelp, but didn't feel like signing up.

    I like the new avatar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Just posted my experiences on Google and facebook reviews. I was gonna do Yelp, but didn't feel like signing up.
    What about bbb? Of the federal commission of fabrication and welding ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Just posted my experiences on Google and facebook reviews. I was gonna do Yelp, but didn't feel like signing up.
    I like the new avatar.
    Looks like they replied to your review.

    "I think you did this review by accident. I checked our customer database there is no record of a hayden lindwall in it. Please contact us if that is inaccurate. Thanks."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audi_509 View Post
    Looks like they replied to your review.

    "I think you did this review by accident. I checked our customer database there is no record of a hayden lindwall in it. Please contact us if that is inaccurate. Thanks."
    Pulling a Ray on us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audi_509 View Post
    Looks like they replied to your review.

    "I think you did this review by accident. I checked our customer database there is no record of a hayden lindwall in it. Please contact us if that is inaccurate. Thanks."
    That wasn't my review. That was Hayden's review (AZ screenname Lindw4ll). They did reply to my review on FB though.

    "Adam, we sincerely apologize about your issues with our retail product lines. I assure you, your complaints and others have changed the way we do things dramatically. we have downsized the company and products offered for web retail, and discontinued many problematic or tight tolerance parts. Further we canceled agreements with several subcontractors and fired several employees to address. this. Ray has become re integrated and hands on with performance projects again. And in order to do things the way we did we reduced the volume of what we do. We wont pretend that this message to you will wrong your slights, but a explanation is the first step to making a mend. We simply got too big too fast. If their is anything within reason we can do to further restore your confidence or make any wrongs right, please contact us direct. Again, you have our sincerest apologies."
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    My google review may have been removed due to repeated swearing...
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    Wow, Sucks to hear all these negative reviews. I'm not taking any side but RAI is like an hour or so from my place of residence and they have been nothing but good to me. Had the test pipe/down pipe made and installed by them..fitment is not perfect but pretty good..Only issue I have is that its the lowest part under my car therefore it scrape when coming into contact with speed bumps and such. Weld seem to be pretty good as well. It mates up very well with the AWE cat back that's installed as well. K0R was installed and tuned by them and runs flawlessly. The CC has work as it should...Only issue I have is that part of the bracket broke on it but that was kinda my fault. Other then that I have not taken my car there for a while only reason due is that I have a buddy with a lift and he helps me out and hes only 15mins away from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    That wasn't my review. That was Hayden's review (AZ screenname Lindw4ll).
    Thanks for clarify.

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    Posted this before, then deleted it because I didn't want to add more drama. But must be said. This is still in relation to the manifold issue. Since the "repair" job they did in post #1 was performed the way it was, there is now a gap between the v band flange between my downpipe and turbine housing. There are a few ways to go about fixing this, but a band-aid is the route I will be taking till this setup is off my car (spring time, maybe). I'll simply place a couple stacked multi-layer 3" v band gaskets there. And for those wondering, they aren't necessarily cheap. Incredible how much this fix is costing me so far, when it should have only cost money to ship there and back. But...should have never happened in the first place. So in case you missed it...


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    I forgot. When I bought received my car, they had to do a double weld on the end tank bc it didn't pass pressure testing. Surprise after hearing everyone's welding stories. I ended up selling the fmic for not even 1/4 the price and received an email of a crack on one of the welds. Luckily, he was able to fix for free. I paid $1600 for a fmic that looked like shit.

    Yes, I dropped off $4k, mainly bc I didn't want to deal with sending more. I trusted they would use my money for my build.

    I only wish I would have learned to wrench on my car earlier. Would gave saved myself at least $4500.

    I rode with Ray to get lunch while they fixed the leak they forgot to fix. It was loud as fuck, how could you forget? After just handing over $3k+ in cash, he didn't feel like buying this guy lunch. Not that I asked for it but you did just rape me over $7,300, taking over 8 months to finish and holding me hostage for over 2 hrs to weld a broken flex pipe. I am a stand up guy and that's how we run business. Ray, is a child is a fat man's body.
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