Anybody running Lionhart, Lizetti, Accelera, Achilles tires?

**doowopaudi** · 01-17-2015 10:17 AM

These are budget tires, but I'm wondering whether anyone is running or has run these tires and if so, would you recommend these?

I have heard not to cheap out on tires, but I've been seeing a lot of LionHart recently along with Accelera so I'm wondering whether they are a new tire that really doesn't have a reputation yet.

Thanks guys,

**Shimmy** · 01-17-2015 11:47 AM

my wife drives a denali and accelra is pretty popular with people running 24s. still crappy tires though. any reason why you are even entertaining these budget tires?

**homelessNY_LI** · 01-17-2015 11:53 AM

I have never even heard of them. I am in that school of thought not to cheap out on tires. They are your car's only point of contact with the road. I am sure if you shop around you can find a deal on a decent/good/great brand.

I got an amazing deal on pirelli (winters) from tirerack. On sale plus a 70 dollar rebate. They are always my first place to check when I need tires

**doowopaudi** · 01-17-2015 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Shimmy

my wife drives a denali and accelra is pretty popular with people running 24s. still crappy tires though. any reason why you are even entertaining these budget tires?

I have my 19x9 peelers as a secondary option and I want to wrap them with something not too expensive so that I can swap wheels when I feel like it.

**4RingRook** · 01-17-2015 10:42 PM

Suspension and tires are the last places to look to save a buck.

**bluetori** · 01-18-2015 02:26 AM

If anything and I'm not saying there bad by any means get some Hankook I am replacing my old ones and their only 200 for my 20" wheels. No complaints either.

**Project Quattro** · 01-18-2015 05:18 AM

I've never used these brands but I've bought cars with budget tires on them before. They're ok (not great) in good weather but they suck in the rain and slide all over the place in the snow. I replaced them almost immediately in both cases.

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**Militant-Grunt** · 01-18-2015 06:51 AM

Ive driven a customers car with LionHart tires. They came in complaining about noise coming from the wheels. It was the tires. Usually budget tires are loud, ride harshly, bubble easily, have stiff sidewalls, and have poor on road fee (Braking is affected too)l. You can get a set of 750/800 dollar tires. Believe me, spend extra on a decent tire, its among the most important things on your car.

**doowopaudi** · 01-18-2015 07:45 AM

Yeah, thinking it more I'm just gonna get good tires. They should last longer too. Thanks guys

**bluetori** · 01-18-2015 08:23 AM

Unless you want to drive one of those retarded cars with like 26" wheels. The real geniuses��

**o1turbo30v** · 01-18-2015 08:39 AM

The only "cheap" tires I ever used where Eldorado Tires, these are Cooper tires private brand and are made by Sumitomo. The tires I had where the Velozza VXZ and for the money they where awesome. The only way I found out about them was from my local tire shop who said they really worked well. The 255/35/19 was $96.

**Shimmy** · 01-18-2015 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by doowopaudi

I have my 19x9 peelers as a secondary option and I want to wrap them with something not too expensive so that I can swap wheels when I feel like it.

I'd opt for at least hankooks as previously mentioned, or some falkens.

**doowopaudi** · 01-18-2015 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Shimmy

I'd opt for at least hankooks as previously mentioned, or some falkens.

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get. Thanks everyone.

By the way, I ended up buying a tire loft for my garage from amazon for $49 (tax incl) with free shipping.

Anyone with extra wheels should look into this for their garage. Its got great reviews

**homelessNY_LI** · 01-18-2015 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by doowopaudi

Yeah, that's what I'm gonna get. Thanks everyone.

By the way, I ended up buying a tire loft for my garage from amazon for $49 (tax incl) with free shipping.

Anyone with extra wheels should look into this for their garage. Its got great reviews

You have a link?

**doowopaudi** · 01-18-2015 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by homelessNY_LI

You have a link?

Here you go. All i did was enter "tire loft" on google or amazon.

Check out some of the customer's images and you'll find a few Audi owners posting their wheels on these racks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...30CZDCQHARV2J6

**keiffr** · 05-03-2015 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by doowopaudi

These are budget tires, but I'm wondering whether anyone is running or has run these tires and if so, would you recommend these?

I have heard not to cheap out on tires, but I've been seeing a lot of LionHart recently along with Accelera so I'm wondering whether they are a new tire that really doesn't have a reputation yet.

Thanks guys,

If you're looking for some decent budget tires, try out the Velozza ZXV tires. I've had them for about a week and so far no complaints. Stiffer sidewall and less grippy that the Pzeros I had on prior. Half the price but they hold their own.

**Slick_B8** · 05-03-2015 02:08 PM

Ive had the accelera phi tires on 19's before and going up to big bear doing atleast 60-70 on the curves without 0 issues. Those tires are actually pretty darn good

**homelessNY_LI** · 05-03-2015 02:16 PM

between discount tire or tirerack you should be able to get a good deal on good brands like pirelli, michelin, hancock etc)

and i like the tirrack tire hazzard program they have done right by me

**Unit1Evangelion** · 05-03-2015 03:50 PM

Chinese cheapo made tires are the worse. Lowest I run on any of my cars is Hankooks which have bad sidewall issues, but even then I would rather spend $30 more on each tire to get Michelins. My family is too important to rely on something questionable.

Besides, why spend $2k+ on rims if you can't afford a decent set of tires? I find it funny when people buy something like ADV's and they have Accelera tires on them, which is $2-300 a set. Thats like buying Brembo's and then buying some $200 set of brake pads. You are wasting money, let alone testing death.

“Chinese-branded tires are a whole different world,” reported Car and Driver technical director Dave VanderWerp. “You absolutely get what you pay for, which, as we found in our test, is capability that is nothing short of scary."

**Vinhouw** · 05-03-2015 04:54 PM

Lizetti is garbage, my car was slipping so much in the rain, and it rains pretty hard in Florida... I couldn't drive past 55/60 mph because i would lose control of the car... check discounttiredirect, got some 19 falkens...much better

**biserker1** · 05-03-2015 05:03 PM

I run yokohama advan sports on my 19 VMR's. Went from Continental DW to the yokohama to save a few bucks. They are pretty big in the mini cooper world (my old ride) and so far so good. Price wise they are right around what the Hankook's cost.

**brianfresh** · 05-03-2015 07:52 PM

I use achilles atr sports, they're great tires for stretching and I've never had a problem with them

**doowopaudi** · 05-03-2015 09:11 PM

I actually ended up getting a set of 235/35/19 Lionhart LH-Four Tires for my peelers and have no complaints. I got them from one of our very own wheel vendors (GetYourWheels) for $100 each tire plus tax (9% in CA). They look and run good. I live in Sunny So Cal, so not much rain here.

**doowopaudi** · 05-03-2015 09:16 PM

http://www.lionhart.jp/

**keiffr** · 05-03-2015 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by doowopaudi

I actually ended up getting a set of 235/35/19 Lionhart LH-Four Tires for my peelers and have no complaints. I got them from one of our very own wheel vendors (GetYourWheels) for $100 each tire plus tax (9% in CA). They look and run good. I live in Sunny So Cal, so not much rain here.

Thumbs up! How are you liking the tires?

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**doowopaudi** · 05-05-2015 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by keiffr

Thumbs up! How are you liking the tires?

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So far, loving them

**adamazing** · 05-05-2015 03:13 PM

I went "cheap" on a set of tires a few years back that were getting raves from the Subie Auto-X guys about how awesome they were. I had two of them blow out int he first 6 months.
On one of them, the tread completely separated from the belt.

Never again.

**doowopaudi** · 05-05-2015 03:46 PM

I'll be sure to post here if anything goes wrong with my lionharts

**formula1guy** · 05-05-2015 06:19 PM

Am on my 3rd set of Hankook Ventus V12 Evos. Have done track days on them, have taken them to the snow and rain. They last 10,000 miles longer than the Pirellis p-zero rossos that came on the car and are significantly cheaper. When this set is done, i'll move to their replacement, the Evo 2. Can't beat them for $189 each.

**Zachariah** · 07-05-2015 07:26 PM

Out of all the budget brands out there - these are the ONLY ones worth rolling:

1) Lexani(made by NEXEN)
2) Achilles
3) Accellera

**diego_demarco** · 07-05-2015 08:39 PM

Have had the acceleras since I purchased the avant gardes about 8k miles ago! No problems yet and I drive a lot!!

**Teslatim** · 07-05-2015 09:12 PM

You get what you pay for.... Research is key. That strip of rubber is holding up precious cargo. Save $$$ on something else.

**inception** · 07-06-2015 03:43 PM

go with conti extreme contact dw best bang for the buck. or khumo le sport. there are some great deals on tire rack

**homelessNY_LI** · 07-06-2015 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by inception

go with conti extreme contact dw best bang for the buck. or khumo le sport. there are some great deals on tire rack

tirerack is great and i am a huge fan of their tire hazard program. did right by me

**lx4life** · 07-06-2015 08:44 PM

I have Acceleras on my car and they are great, I also have Lionharts on my other car also those are great tires. What is funny is that Kuhmo use to be a budget brand tire back in the days. The acceleras are actually raising their prices since last year maybe they are becoming a better brand name.

**K2R1D3R** · 08-03-2015 11:30 AM

Hey how are the tires holding up and are they noisy?

**doowopaudi** · 08-04-2015 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by K2R1D3R

Hey how are the tires holding up and are they noisy?

My lionharts are noisy, but it's only audible when I'm slowing down to a halt.

**Erick_Glover** · 11-11-2015 08:58 AM

Lionhart LH Eleven 285/35/22 were VERY good tires. I went from Scorpions to Lionheart and now I'm back on Scorpions and the Lionheart LH 11 is just as quiet and smooth! I wore them to the belts on the R50 and never had ANY issues!
Scorpions have one advantage, they have a bit stronger sidewalls but I don't drive aggressively that often so I never need. $1100 vs $400 Scorpions is more than twice the cost but not twice as good.

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**Lambda13** · 11-11-2015 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by o1turbo30v

The only "cheap" tires I ever used where Eldorado Tires, these are Cooper tires private brand and are made by Sumitomo. The tires I had where the Velozza VXZ and for the money they where awesome. The only way I found out about them was from my local tire shop who said they really worked well. The 255/35/19 was $96.

Have any more info on them?