Manual Transmission Hill Hold Disable?

[billyghog]

Hi everyone, I just purchased a 2015 A4, 2.0T, 6-speed manual, quattro with the s-line package. So far the car is great with the exception of the hill hold (or whatever it's officially called) feature. This is the feature that's supposed to help out if you're on a hill when you're starting, but for those of us who've had a manual all our lives it's more of an annoyance! Is there a way to disable this in VCDS or some other way? I poked around a bit in the coding but couldn't find anything obvious to disable this. I've also searched here and multiple other forums, but the procedures they all have don not work on my car for some reason. Any help would be much appreciated!

[alwiB8]

I'm glad you started this, this feature is such a pain in the ass

[goreckless]

Sub'd.

[Sales@DriveAuto]

I'm fairly sure you can code it out - at least you can on VW's.

[mr_milo]

I know it's not exactly the same but maybe this page can help.

http://audienthusiasts.com/Project_HillHold5.html

[billyghog]

I know it's not exactly the same but maybe this page can help.

http://audienthusiasts.com/Project_HillHold5.html

This is a different feature, mine is currently deactivated per VCDS. The Hill Hold as described here seems like it would be even more annoying! The feature I'm talking about only kicks in on hills when you're starting from a stop.

[jarlaxle]

Subscribed. Have a 2015 sport+ on order.

[mr_milo]

This is a different feature, mine is currently deactivated per VCDS. The Hill Hold as described here seems like it would be even more annoying! The feature I'm talking about only kicks in on hills when you're starting from a stop.

I know it's not the same thing but I didn't know if that code section could help since you stated "I poked around a bit in the coding but couldn't find anything obvious to disable this."

By the way, it doesn't only kick in on hills. I have had mine kick in on flats too and that's when it REALLY annoys me too.

[ny tdi]

Audi has locked us out of this. It's in the ABS module, but VCDS can't read that module. You'll get an error when trying to access it. Blows chunks. I hate it. The only times I've stalled my A4 is when the hill start assist kicks in when I don't expect it. I've learned to live with it by using the "manual" hill hold assist.

That's right MANUAL hill hold! Turns out that when you engage the electronic emergency break at a stop light, you can easily disable it by slowly easing off of the clutch (assuming you have your seatbelt on). The electronic break is IMMEADIATELY disabled once you get going. This is in stark contrast to the normal hill start assist feature which keeps the brakes on for WAY too long. The best thing is that engaging the e-brake prevents the hill start assist feature from ever being activated.

So WHY can you perform a smooth roll off with the E-brake hill hold assist and not with the automatic hill start assist? Well, when you use the ebrake, only the rear wheels/tires get locked by the e-brake mechanism. When the automatic hill start assist is engaged, it locks ALL FOUR wheels and tires using the calipers. My guess is that the calipers are a bit grippier, and therefore a little more tenacious in clapping down the discs. That's just a guess. The reality is that it doesn't matter WHY one works better than the other. What's important is that you have an alternative: wear your seatbelt, and engage the ebrake when stopping on a hill.

I've gotten used to doing this now, and it's become second nature. Stoplight, ebrake, green light, roll off smoothly. I do it every time I stop at a hill, or park at ah hill. Yes, it's annoying to have to do this, but I haven't found a better solution so far. Good luck!