Rear bumper dent - estimate repair cost

[xbeta]

Hello,

My wife is driving my A4 today and some woman hit our A4 on the rear when she is backing out from the parking lot. I believe our A4 was also in motion when that happened (according to my wife), so I believe it's a 50/50 for the insurance claim.

Anyway, I would like to know if you guys can get some estimate for repairing this part from the Audi Dealer vs some body shop. I lived in San Francisco Bay Area, California.



Obviously I would prefer the original OEM parts over any 3rd party, but can someone give me an estimate on this (including the labor charges?)

Thanks,
Sam.

[Bleek]

Wish I could tell you. Sorry about your luck though. Always sucks to see another Audi owner get into an accident.

[xbeta]

Yeah, it sucks. Well, we can't go back and fix it, so I think it's time to move on.

(it's also my first beloved Audi , it hurts when my wife called me about it today)

[mas3fac3]

This recently happened to my friend and he bought an aftermarket bumper from CarID and had it painted for about $250-$300. But he installed it himself.

Not sure about the repair cost but you would still end up having to repaint the entire bumper even if you get it repaired.

Good Luck

[adam044]

A good body shop should be able to pop that out for you and repaint it. I'd say $350ish. Stop by your body shop.

Would absolutely not put in an insurance claim for that though as your story doesn't seem to be straight. If the woman backed into her then go for it but if there's some grey area I wouldn't do it.

[crash1121]

Bummer!

No way in hell a body shop would pop that out. They will say that would need a new bumper cover, new valance, and obviously to have it painted.

According to genuineaudiparts.com, and assuming that your car is a 2009-2012 A4:
-Bumper cover (8K5807303CGRU): MSRP=$1352.00 or $1005.89
-Rear valance/spoiler (8K0807521C1RR): MSRP=$141.00 or $104.90
-To have the new primed bumper painted: $300-$400

NOTE: You can probably find a better deal on that bumper cover on eBay or somewhere else, so just enter copy that part number and you should get a good amount of options.

[xbeta]

A good body shop should be able to pop that out for you and repaint it. I'd say $350ish. Stop by your body shop.

Would absolutely not put in an insurance claim for that though as your story doesn't seem to be straight. If the woman backed into her then go for it but if there's some grey area I wouldn't do it.

Well, my wife didn't know anything, and she claimed it already as a precaution, is it too late now to remove it?
I would never imagine to spend $350 on it.

[adam044]

Well according to him they will never be able to pop that out. I disagree. A good shop would be able to work with that but who knows what type of people you have around your area.

I know if I was to go to my shop there's no way they would say you need an entire new bumper. The valence is easy to find used probably.

[goreckless]

Well according to him they will never be able to pop that out. I disagree. A good shop would be able to work with that but who knows what type of people you have around your area.

I know if I was to go to my shop there's no way they would say you need an entire new bumper. The valence is easy to find used probably.

There's a whole in the bumper! No way of popping that out and having it look like new.

[adam044]

There's a whole in the bumper! No way of popping that out and having it look like new.

Hmmm that there is. It's small on my phone and didn't Zoom in.

[name.goes.here]

There's a whole in the bumper! No way of popping that out and having it look like new.

+1 - new bumper will be required.

[BarEaterB8]

I run a body shop in NY, and I can tell you that the bumper can 100% be fixed and look perfect. But what it takes to get there is another story. I would charge $400 to fix the bumper and another $100 for the valance. Any aftermarket bumper will never fit as good as OEM and an OEM S-Line bumper just to buy is $1352.00. Hope this helps.

[BuzzL]

It definitely make no sense to fix the old bumper and valance. I wouldn't be even satisified with that but require a new one.
I believe it would also become more expensive compared to having a new bumper and valance due to costs of labour. The new bumper is something like 550-600 euros here, where I live. In US I would think it is cheaper? In both cases painting is required.

My ex- A4 B8 Avant had its rear bumper replaced twice when someone hit it. The repairs were done by Audi dealer and the repars were paid by the insurance of the other party.
The first hit was so small that you could hardly see the damage, anyway the bumper was replaced. I can't remember the costs.
The other hit happened August last year and the damage was worse than in first time, but not even close to that bad as xbeta's Audi.
The costs were about 2000 eur including new bumper cover, new valance, the beam/frame behind the bumper, paint job together with all the labour related to disassemble/assemble the bumper.

[SleeperCar]

I suggest going through insurance, but only if you have the following information:

1.exactly what happened
2. their insurance information

Even at 50/50 you would pay less than if you did whole thing out of pocket.

I was hit while parked (no one left a note and ran from scene). I called progressive and they said i can go through a process called uninsured motorist, all i had to pay was $250 and they covered everything else.

Insurance can be a benefit if claimed and handled properly

[SilentAngle]

Bummer!

No way in hell a body shop would pop that out. They will say that would need a new bumper cover, new valance, and obviously to have it painted.

According to genuineaudiparts.com, and assuming that your car is a 2009-2012 A4:
-Bumper cover (8K5807303CGRU): MSRP=$1352.00 or $1005.89
-Rear valance/spoiler (8K0807521C1RR): MSRP=$141.00 or $104.90
-To have the new primed bumper painted: $300-$400

NOTE: You can probably find a better deal on that bumper cover on eBay or somewhere else, so just enter copy that part number and you should get a good amount of options.

That's a good estimate IMO. If its just black not the phantom pearl, you can probably get away with butt painting and not doing it the "right" way and blending into the fenders.

You can certainly do it cheaper. There's no need for an oem bumper imo. It'll be painted. You won't be able to tell. Just painting the bumper should be fine also.

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[xbeta]

Hello all, some update...

My insurance said they cannot fix it with the dealers. They need to pursue their "preferred" body shop and fix this. God knows if they will buy with original parts and paint it.

What are my choices now? Should I just pay for it myself?

[SDF1]

Are you kidding me?!?!
Please post another photo facing the back.

That bump can be popped out. Worse case the paint will crack and you will have to repaint the bumper 300-400$
Rear Valence is plastic and can be bent back into shape. I wouldn't get another OEM, I'd replace it for the nicer one like this https://www.massdrop.com/buy/audi-a4...er?s=Audi%20B8

[AudiTLC]

you can have that repaired in a few hours at your home or work.
check out bumpersolutions.com

i've used them and you honestly can't tell at all- looks new- and it's so cheap.
the owner is a great guy too

[dalmation53]

Guys that can be fixed mines was 3 times worst and got it poped out and painted for $400 insurance gave me the money to pay though! My valence did not dent so is original yours you need a new one.

[SleeperCar]

Hello all, some update...

My insurance said they cannot fix it with the dealers. They need to pursue their "preferred" body shop and fix this. God knows if they will buy with original parts and paint it.

What are my choices now? Should I just pay for it myself?

you can request that only OEM parts are used. But as others have stated, it looks like they can pop that bump out, ad some fiberglass over the hole and repaint it, would look like new as well.

But its your call. the insurance company can tell you which shop they will use.

[xbeta]

Thanks all !
I can request the OEM parts since insurance might pay it some of it assuming my wife is responsible for 50/50.

Can I ask does any electronic parts in this rear bumper/valence be possibly damaged? Including rear sensors.. etc?

[adam044]

Glad I don't look crazy now, thanks for the other "you can pop it outers!"

[xbeta]

Glad I don't look crazy now, thanks for the other "you can pop it outers!"

I'm not sure what that means by "pop it out", but there's a hole in the bumper. You can't pop it out. I wouldn't mind having it entirely replace as I would also prefer it to be OEM originally replaced. Sure it cost bit more, but I need to pay no matter what.

[adam044]

you can request that only OEM parts are used. But as others have stated, it looks like they can pop that bump out, ad some fiberglass over the hole and repaint it, would look like new as well.

But its your call. the insurance company can tell you which shop they will use.

^^^

[endy1]

You can actually repair it but it would cost...(Yes i work with this kind of stuffs)

Plastic welding
Heat
Bondo

It will be cheaper to just buy new stuff!

[dracolnyte]

350

[1_clean_Audi]

similar incident happen to me, but someone rear ended me, the damage looks the same and all, estimated cost was $3k. but while waiting for the insurance to figure out the paper work i crawled underneath and hammered out the dent in the mean time.

[crash1121]

You can actually repair it but it would cost...(Yes i work with this kind of stuffs)

Plastic welding
Heat
Bondo

It will be cheaper to just buy new stuff!

+1 !

[r6_11b8]

another thing you can do it call around your local junk yards or online and see what a4's were in a front or side collision and have untouched rear bumpers..might save you some coin there if you get lucky

but ive seen worst fixed and buying a new bumper might be cheaper

[skis4hire]

My insurance said they cannot fix it with the dealers. They need to pursue their "preferred" body shop and fix this. God knows if they will buy with original parts and paint it.

This is absolutely false. You have the right by law to get it repaired anywhere you want.
Ultimately, however, the insurance payout will be based on what the insurance co estimates the repair cost to be.
For example, if they estimate based on an aftermarket bumper, you can still have an OEM bumper put on but you pay the difference unless you get them to agree on OEM.

If you've never handled an insurance claim before, the process should be:

1.) YOU should get 1-2 estimates yourself for the repair at body shops.
2.) Either the body shop will coordinate with the insurance to have an appraisal done on site, or you will need to take it to the insurance co to get an appraisal done
3.) Talk to the body shop about the insurance appraisal and compare to the estimate YOU got yourself. Insist that the repair look 100% like original condition. If there is any showstopper in the appraisal, figure it out with the insurance adjuster before repairing.

If you really want an OEM bumper, make sure you let the insurance adjuster know you won't be satisfied with improper fitment. If the aftermarket bumper is not 100% good fitment, you will require them to re-do the repair. They may relent and allow OEM bumper part.

Know that this will go on your record and potentially increase your rates.

[The Infiltrator]

Something like this happened to me when I first bought my car and it cost me $300 to get the dent, tear, and paint fix on it. A good body shop can make just about anything happen.

[xbeta]

This is absolutely false. You have the right by law to get it repaired anywhere you want.
Ultimately, however, the insurance payout will be based on what the insurance co estimates the repair cost to be.
For example, if they estimate based on an aftermarket bumper, you can still have an OEM bumper put on but you pay the difference unless you get them to agree on OEM.

If you've never handled an insurance claim before, the process should be:

1.) YOU should get 1-2 estimates yourself for the repair at body shops.
2.) Either the body shop will coordinate with the insurance to have an appraisal done on site, or you will need to take it to the insurance co to get an appraisal done
3.) Talk to the body shop about the insurance appraisal and compare to the estimate YOU got yourself. Insist that the repair look 100% like original condition. If there is any showstopper in the appraisal, figure it out with the insurance adjuster before repairing.

If you really want an OEM bumper, make sure you let the insurance adjuster know you won't be satisfied with improper fitment. If the aftermarket bumper is not 100% good fitment, you will require them to re-do the repair. They may relent and allow OEM bumper part.

Know that this will go on your record and potentially increase your rates.

Thanks!
Since my wife called the insurance already, I guess we can't reverse that. So yeah, I expect the rate will go up a bit.

[bermudakid]

BTW you can buy a new OEM bumper cover off rockauto for for less than 200$ and it will fit just just like it did before. I think it would be less labor intensive for a shop to just paint a new bumper than trying to fix that. Either route should be under 500$ to fix.

This is the part # if you buy one not labeled as OEM - AU1100193

And if you want genuine OEM replacement - 8K5807303GRU (ps its the same thing lol)

[skis4hire]

Thanks!
Since my wife called the insurance already, I guess we can't reverse that. So yeah, I expect the rate will go up a bit.

I've read that if you close a claim with no "payout" by the insurance company, it will not go on your record, thus not affect your rates.
Your mileage may vary, I would ask your agent.

[wtrsxn]

Audi bumpers are expensive, repairing the dent should be a lot cheaper that getting a new one.

[B G 8er]

Yikes. What a discussion! As BarEater B8 stated, yes, the bumper cover can be repaired but at what cost? First off, you're in California and unless the laws have changed recently and I'm not aware of this the law states that you can take your car to any shop you would like.
Insurance companies will try to steer you to their so called "approved" shops and give you a long list of reasons why you should (i.e. better warranty, etc.) however, this is because they have contracts with these preferred shops who give them better pricing since they send them allot of work.

Depends how particular you are. If you don't really care how great the paint matches or how well they will take the time and skill to line everything up just right, etc.) maybe its not that important to you. Keep in mind, any body repairs diminish the value of your car. So if they are performed to extraordinary standards, you will have less diminished value than if you receive sub par work. Now according to a body shop Owner I talked to, if the insurance company insists on aftermarket parts and they don't fit right, the customer can refuse to sign off on the work and the insurance company must then have them remove the aftermarket parts and use OEM parts.

[xbeta]

Dealer's body shop quoted me with :

- new Bumper cover OEM
- new Rear valance/spoiler OEM
- new rear sensor

I have a S-line, so quoted price is $23xx
is it too much?

[uberwgn]

I have a S-line, so quoted price is $23xx

WOW !!

[BuzzL]

Dealer's body shop quoted me with :

- new Bumper cover OEM
- new Rear valance/spoiler OEM
- new rear sensor

I have a S-line, so quoted price is $23xx
is it too much?

If that price includes all the labour and paintwork, to me it seems just normal dealer price which is in line what was the price for replacing my rear bumper (which was however covered by counterpart's insurance).