Raced a Cherokee SRT8

[brad281]

I had the chance to race a new Cherokee SRT8 with my stage 2 2013 q5 tonight. Had I known the Cherokee was AWD I would have expected the results. He got me by about 3/4 of a car to 70.

Anyone else have any tuned Q5 race stories?

[davedc]

I had the chance to race a new Cherokee SRT8 with my stage 2 2013 q5 tonight. Had I known the Cherokee was AWD I would have expected the results. He got me by about 3/4 of a car to 70.

Anyone else have any tuned Q5 race stories?

I had a 1st gen SRT8 Jeep and they are very beastly out of the hole. The newest 8 speed SRTs are also very quick. Both will do basement 13s stock all day long...They also love cold air and the new 8 speeds have been known to pull 3.9-4.1 0-60s in excellent DA conditions. That said since youre a stage 2 3.0T you should probably be in the midhigh 12s so you probably wouldve pulled him if you kept going past 100 DA depending.

[LINDW4LL]

The SRT8s are beasts all around. I think it's an impressive that the soccer-mom looking Q5 with it's little 3.0L can keep up with the monster 6.4L HEMI.

That being said, it is a little surprising to me as I know Scottisha ran mid 12s @ 107mph in his stage 2 Q5. I think stock SRT8s are in the 13s @ 102ish. I'm not a big drag strip guy but people say that's a big difference. Of course there are also variables like if he hit the gas a quarter second before you, etc...

I'd predict that if you had kept going you would have reeled him in and passed him.

[SQive]

...not to mention the fuel difference...

[brad281]

I think he did get the drop on me. The 3/4 car difference was off the line. I haven't had a lot of success launching this thing consistently.

[brad281]

The SRT8s are beasts all around. I think it's an impressive that the soccer-mom looking Q5 with it's little 3.0L can keep up with the monster 6.4L HEMI.

That being said, it is a little surprising to me as I know Scottisha ran mid 12s @ 107mph in his stage 2 Q5. I think stock SRT8s are in the 13s @ 102ish. I'm not a big drag strip guy but people say that's a big difference. Of course there are also variables like if he hit the gas a quarter second before you, etc...

I'd predict that if you had kept going you would have reeled him in and passed him.

Might not have been stock, too. He did get me out of the hole. I had my traction control on so that may have slowed me a bit.

[musasabi]

I got to roast an SRT8 in the rain just a few weeks after getting my RS4. Super fun and friendly little race. It's really cool to hear that an SQ5 can keep pace with one of those monsters. =)

[cobrar97]

The new SRT8 has the Launch Control too. Price for price, I'd still go with the Audi.

[brad281]

I got to roast an SRT8 in the rain just a few weeks after getting my RS4. Super fun and friendly little race. It's really cool to hear that an SQ5 can keep pace with one of those monsters. =)

Mine is a Q5. Congrats on the RS4. I bet that thing is a beast.

[brad281]

The new SRT8 has the Launch Control too. Price for price, I'd still go with the Audi.

It certainly took off like a rocket. I was impressed.

[musasabi]

Quick edit is quick.

Even better on the Q5 doing it up.

Thanks! It's plain and simply everything I've ever wanted in a car. Such an engaging experience and, thus far, fun to work on, too. ;)

[brad281]

Quick edit is quick.

Even better on the Q5 doing it up.

Thanks! It's plain and simply everything I've ever wanted in a car. Such an engaging experience and, thus far, fun to work on, too. ;)

I can understand. I had really wanted an RS5 but needed the 4 doors and room in the Q5. In the end I didn't think the performance difference in the sQ5 warranted the additional money. Now if they come out with an RSQ5 that would be a different story.

[tmoe]

I had the chance to race a new Cherokee SRT8 with my stage 2 2013 q5 tonight. Had I known the Cherokee was AWD I would have expected the results. He got me by about 3/4 of a car to 70.

Anyone else have any tuned Q5 race stories?

I have to ask which trans mode were you in? In D Scott would lose almost a 1/2 sec in the 1/4. He would always run in M mode even better than S and it does auto shift. 1st will short shift around 5800 but around 6400 rest of gears. Give it a try and I think you might fell the difference at least in our 2013's you do.

[brad281]

I have to ask which trans mode were you in? In D Scott would lose almost a 1/2 sec in the 1/4. He would always run in M mode even better than S and it does auto shift. 1st will short shift around 5800 but around 6400 rest of gears. Give it a try and I think you might fell the difference at least in our 2013's you do.

I was in M mode. I shifted at 6200-6400 each time. I did have the stability control on and I think I lost a little launch on that.

[Silverarrow240]

One of my good buddies has a 08 srt8 with intake, exhaust and tune... He has to be close to 500hp, and the thing pulls like a freight train.

However, he never, ever fucks with Audis on the highway anymore because he got pulled on a couple times. He says, you never know if they're tuned, and theyll give you a serious run with this big ass truck.

He'll take on anyone from a red light though... :)

[Transfer]

I was thinking the SQ5 would be faster than SRT8, but I just checked the power to weight ratios (crank HP) and the Jeep definitely has the advantage.

[davedc]

The new SRT8 has the Launch Control too. Price for price, I'd still go with the Audi.

SQ5 is significantly cheaper - a new SRT with must haves is ~$71k. If they were the same price Im not sure which way I would've gone. The new GCs are in a different universe of refinement than they used to be. SRT is faster,has more room and better interior tech. I like the more compact proportions of the SQ though.

[Jay337]

SQ5 is significantly cheaper - a new SRT with must haves is ~$71k. If they were the same price Im not sure which way I would've gone. The new GCs are in a different universe of refinement than they used to be. SRT is faster,has more room and better interior tech. I like the more compact proportions of the SQ though.

better interior tech ? can we have exemple ?
btw I am not bashing you...Just want to get informed how the srt is equipped

[BlackSVT]

I was in M mode. I shifted at 6200-6400 each time. I did have the stability control on and I think I lost a little launch on that.

FWIW, put it in M and let it shift for best times. It won't rev limit when it hits 6400 (~5800 on the 1-2 shift), it'll just hit the next gear. Shorter shifting before that will just cost you time with a tune.

[brad281]

FWIW, put it in M and let it shift for best times. It won't rev limit when it hits 6400 (~5800 on the 1-2 shift), it'll just hit the next gear. Shorter shifting before that will just cost you time with a tune.

I will try that out. Any advice on launching this thing?

[davedc]

better interior tech ? can we have exemple ?
btw I am not bashing you...Just want to get informed how the srt is equipped

The UConnect system in the 14+ SRTs is more advanced than the MMI we get by a mile. Its huge (8.4"), touchscreen, very responsive, intuitive, has apps capability, and includes the pretty damn cool "SRT Performnace Pages" which includes just about every gauge you can imagine as well as built in 0-60 and 1/4 mile timers, real time hp/torque, etc. The 7" full color reprogrammable gauge cluster is in a different league than our small screen.

Also the available 19 speaker Harmon Kardon system blows our Bang & Olufson out of the water in quality, bass and volume imo.

The SQ5 still has it on fit and finish, but not by as much as you might imagine. Particularly if you opt for the Laguna napa interior in the SRT (yet more $$ though).

[SQive]

Any advice on launching this thing?

For the best times:

Transmision in "M" mode.
Traction-control off.
Stand on the brake.
Accelerator to the floor (engine will cap at 3500 RPM).
Release brake within five seconds.
Hold on!
Check rear-view mirror for the competition.

[brad281]

For the best times:

Transmision in "M" mode.
Traction-control off.
Stand on the brake.
Accelerator to the floor (engine will cap at 3500 RPM).
Release brake within five seconds.
Hold on!
Check rear-view mirror for the competition.

That is fantastic!

[LINDW4LL]

For the best times:

Transmision in "M" mode.
Traction-control off.
Stand on the brake.
Accelerator to the floor (engine will cap at 3500 RPM).
Release brake within five seconds.
Hold on!
Check rear-view mirror for the competition.

You can get it up to 3500rpm while brake boosting/torquing?

Damn.


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[scottisha]

Sorry the sound was deleted.... The last race was against a stock 2014 Jeep SRT8

Definitely put it in Manual and let the car shift on it's own, for fastest acceleration.

[Jay337]

For the best times:

Transmision in "M" mode.
Traction-control off.
Stand on the brake.
Accelerator to the floor (engine will cap at 3500 RPM).
Release brake within five seconds.
Hold on!
Check rear-view mirror for the competition.

I tried this ... tell me if this Is normal...

I am used to DSG.. (when I push the brake and push the accelerator..the car doesn't move...it just start when you release the brake.)

BUT
when I do the same thing with the SQ5...I feel that the truck want to move but the brake is holding it...I am scared that the transmission is forcing badly.

sorry for my poor english.

[ND40oz]

I tried this ... tell me if this Is normal...

I am used to DSG.. (when I push the brake and push the accelerator..the car doesn't move...it just start when you release the brake.)

BUT
when I do the same thing with the SQ5...I feel that the truck want to move but the brake is holding it...I am scared that the transmission is forcing badly.

sorry for my poor english.

Yes, it's normal. What you're doing to getting the torque converter up to it's stall speed. Once you exceed the stall speed that's when you'll start to feel it try to move forward, back down a bit from that if you're worried about drivetrain stress.

[brad281]

For the best times:

Transmision in "M" mode.
Traction-control off.
Stand on the brake.
Accelerator to the floor (engine will cap at 3500 RPM).
Release brake within five seconds.
Hold on!
Check rear-view mirror for the competition.

My engine won't Rev over 2500 with the brake applied.

[SQive]

My engine won't Rev over 2500 with the brake applied.

The engine won't free-rev over 3500.
2500 is probably where the torque-converter locks up.

[Jay337]

Yes, it's normal. What you're doing to getting the torque converter up to it's stall speed. Once you exceed the stall speed that's when you'll start to feel it try to move forward, back down a bit from that if you're worried about drivetrain stress.

When you said to back down a little bit.. Are you telling me to push the brake pedal and push less the accelerator?

[ND40oz]

When you said to back down a little bit.. Are you telling me to push the brake pedal and push less the accelerator?

Just let off the accelerator a bit so you're right at the TC lockup rpm.

[Jay337]

Perfect and it wont damage or force the transmission?

[ND40oz]

No, you're basically taking the torque converter out of the equation for your launch. It's already locked up when you release the brake.