New 2015 S3 FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[2015AudiS3]

I bought my 2015 audi S3 two months ago and I finally took it in to get serviced after an EPC light went on. My car has about 4k miles and the audi mechanic said that one of the cylinder has high compression. They also saw bits of metal in the oil after they drained it. Now audi is putting a whole new engine in my car. This is my first Audi and I must say that I'm extremely disappointed with them. How can something like this happen besides poor craftsmanship. Definitely no truth in engineering in this case. Now I don't even wanna keep the car cause I'm scared that it'll have massive problems in the future!

[Stubek]

I would not worry about it that much. Every manufacturer has one or two bad ones that get though, you just have the bad luck of getting one of those which sucks.

I say get the car back with the new motor, drive it another 4-5k miles and then make your decision on keeping it. Make sure you follow the break-in guidelines from the dealer. I know it can be a pain, but do it.

Good luck

[hodrosS42001]

I bought my 2015 audi S3 two months ago and I finally took it in to get serviced after an EPC light went on. My car has about 4k miles and the audi mechanic said that one of the cylinder has high compression. They also saw bits of metal in the oil after they drained it. Now audi is putting a whole new engine in my car. This is my first Audi and I must say that I'm extremely disappointed with them. How can something like this happen besides poor craftsmanship. Definitely no truth in engineering in this case. Now I don't even wanna keep the car cause I'm scared that it'll have massive problems in the future!

Well I am sure you will get a report on the faulty engine. It could be many different issues.. both manufacturer, design and owner. I have not heard of any other "engine failures" on the new S3 oversea's other than a turbocharger issue with a bad batch of seals that was fixed early in production.

[Das Ponto]

How have yo been driving your brand new S3? Did you do a break in oil change? Or a break in at all? or just bag it off the lot?

But like the others said, every company will have the odd failure, I mean hell look at GM - how many millions of recalls have they had to do this last year?

[milesed]

Sounds disappointing, but also sounds like they are trying to make it right. I saw one this week at the dealer and was very impressed. I drove the A3 as a loaner and was impressed at how quick and nimble it felt.

[Penti]

Bad luck! Hopefully that's all it is. I had a very similar experience with a brand new WRX a few years ago. As well as a replacement engine, Subaru gave me a 7yr, 100k mi warranty, and I got them to throw in a $1k sports exhaust as well. On the Subaru engine, it turned out to be a bad batch of engines, so that's why I say hopefully, this was a one off. I highly recommend pushing Audi USA to throw in some sweeteners, including an extended warranty.

[AKO]

Bad luck! Hopefully that's all it is. I had a very similar experience with a brand new WRX a few years ago. As well as a replacement engine, Subaru gave me a 7yr, 100k mi warranty, and I got them to throw in a $1k sports exhaust as well. On the Subaru engine, it turned out to be a bad batch of engines, so that's why I say hopefully, this was a one off. I highly recommend pushing Audi USA to throw in some sweeteners, including an extended warranty.

listen to this! im sure you could come out ahead

[2015AudiS3]

Bad luck! Hopefully that's all it is. I had a very similar experience with a brand new WRX a few years ago. As well as a replacement engine, Subaru gave me a 7yr, 100k mi warranty, and I got them to throw in a $1k sports exhaust as well. On the Subaru engine, it turned out to be a bad batch of engines, so that's why I say hopefully, this was a one off. I highly recommend pushing Audi USA to throw in some sweeteners, including an extended warranty.

Is this something that I have to contact corporate office for or the actual dealership where I got the car?

[Penti]

Audi USA will have a customer support department that you can reach out to. You may have to escalate to a sr. claims specialist of some kind, but I'd be surprised if politely expressing your concern and disappointment didn't get you some form of compensation.
http://www.audiusa.com/help/contact-us

[2015AudiS3]

Audi USA will have a customer support department that you can reach out to. You may have to escalate to a sr. claims specialist of some kind, but I'd be surprised if politely expressing your concern and disappointment didn't get you some form of compensation.
http://www.audiusa.com/help/contact-us

Thanks I'll contact them

[Penti]

Good luck! Hope you get your S3 back as it should be. If not, read up on your state's lemon laws in case you have a case.

[supergreen]

I had repeat problems with my 2000 S4 and I got Audi of America to extend my new car warranty over it. They gave me an additional 1 or 2 years.
I now have a 2015 A3 and it had the transmission replaced after 2000 miles. I bought it used so I don't know why.

[Rdrcr]

Bad luck! Hopefully that's all it is. I had a very similar experience with a brand new WRX a few years ago. As well as a replacement engine, Subaru gave me a 7yr, 100k mi warranty, and I got them to throw in a $1k sports exhaust as well. On the Subaru engine, it turned out to be a bad batch of engines, so that's why I say hopefully, this was a one off. I highly recommend pushing Audi USA to throw in some sweeteners, including an extended warranty.

Agreed.

Mike

[demonmk2]

I bought my 2015 audi S3 two months ago and I finally took it in to get serviced after an EPC light went on. My car has about 4k miles and the audi mechanic said that one of the cylinder has high compression. They also saw bits of metal in the oil after they drained it. Now audi is putting a whole new engine in my car. This is my first Audi and I must say that I'm extremely disappointed with them. How can something like this happen besides poor craftsmanship. Definitely no truth in engineering in this case. Now I don't even wanna keep the car cause I'm scared that it'll have massive problems in the future!

If you look at new car/model statistics this is quite common. Not necessarily because its an Audi.
Personly I always wait about 1-1.5 years before that "new" model come out so most if not all the bugs are worked out.

Anyway hope your ordeal is resolved.

[formula1guy]

I also recall reading that he was "driving the car pretty hard lol" as soon as he got it. Don't know if that contributed to his issues but maybe that isn't the best way to go this time around if the engine ends being replaced.

[demonmk2]

Wait, 2015 with 4k miles on it??

The car just came out

[hodrosS42001]

I also recall reading that he was "driving the car pretty hard lol" as soon as he got it. Don't know if that contributed to his issues but maybe that isn't the best way to go this time around if the engine ends being replaced.

Buys brand new car.. doesn't break it in.. comments about the turbo.. and having a hard time keeping it under 100mph.. puts 4k on it in a month blows engine. Owner contributed to failure? probably. Could he have caused an underlying issue to arise? probably.

[Penti]

Be interesting to know where the metal bits came from. I'm guessing a failed bearing. Fair point about break-in, but that arguments never going to be settled here. End of the day, modern engines shouldn't fail this early in their life. Lack of proper break-in is far more likely to affect longevity isn't it!? I babied my WRX for the first 1k, then gently built up from there. It still threw a rod bearing at 2.6k mi. Let's not jump to conclusions on blame. Be in all our best interests to know what happened here and why.

[MrClean]

That is unacceptable.

Like others said, I say, call AOA, tell them your story, express your disappointment and tell them what you expect to make this right for you.

6 year / 100k warranty
Audi Service Plan

Those two items are what I'd expect from Audi to make this right for me.

[dalmation53]

I also recall reading that he was "driving the car pretty hard lol" as soon as he got it. Don't know if that contributed to his issues but maybe that isn't the best way to go this time around if the engine ends being replaced.

This..X2

[LINDW4LL]

The engine is broken in after 100 miles. The long-winded break-in on most modern engines is really not at all necessary. Manufacturing tolerances are completely different now than they were in the past.

[demonmk2]

Wait, 2015 with 4k miles on it??

The car just came out

Waiting for your responce

You bought the car 2 months ago....and its at 4k miles

C'mon man..wtf

[LINDW4LL]

Waiting for your responce

You bought the car 2 months ago....and its at 4k miles

C'mon man..wtf

That's 24,000 miles a year. Pretty standard for a lot of us. And I work from home...

[hodrosS42001]

That's 24,000 miles a year. Pretty standard for a lot of us. And I work from home...

This is not standard. In any sense. Haha

[Das Ponto]

This is not standard. In any sense. Haha

I do 20-30k miles a year on average...

[LINDW4LL]

This is not standard. In any sense. Haha

I said for a lot of us. It's nothing crazy. I don't even think I drive a lot. It's all just normal driving. If I had to commute to say, Milwaukee, for work, I'd be in the high 30s, low 40s.

The "average" American drives 15,000 miles a year. I'd expect the average to be higher for car enthusiasts, especially for those who don't live in a large city.



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[hodrosS42001]

I've never driven more than 8-10,000 miles. But my work is 15 miles away and everything I'd ever need to get to is within 10 miles Haha.

[demonmk2]

^^same boat
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[2015AudiS3]

Recent update: I went to the dealership on Saturday to pick up my parking permit since I left It on my car. My service technician showed me to the car and the engine was out on a stand while the brand spanking new engine was right next to it. He told me that they actually flew in an Audi Field tech to condemn my engine (only person authorized) so far it's the first case with S3 supposedly. Then I asked the service tech what could have caused the engine breakdown. I was honest with him and told him that I was driving the car pretty hard (FYI: I did follow the manual for the break in period before I drove It hard). He himself even told me that the s3 was designed and built to be driven hard! I've had numerous cars before from BMW 335 to Acura GSR's and I've never had an engine break on me because of the way I drove it. With that said. He told me that there's a possibility that the reason might be from using bad gasoline??! I always used she'll or mobile 1 or Chevron which are all tier 1 has stations. And never used anything less than 91 supreme octane (max available in US) he said that these cars are meant to use 93 octanes. I still don't buy it. The only reason that makes sense to me is faulty production of the internal parts or lack of oil (but I'm sure the low oil indicator would have went on). Anyways, they never figured out what caused it but I asked the tech if Audi would do some type of favor since this occurred and he said that it's probably a long shot since the car only has 4k miles. I'll call AOA Monday morning and tell them the issues. It's actually perfect because they've been calling me to see how my audi is doing and if I was satisfied with their product. To rest my case....I am not taking responsibility for the engine breakdown. I'm a car guy and I'm not a punk kid that doesn't know a cars limits. I paid a good amount of $ for a reputable sports compact sedan and that's what I expect. I didn't buy an A3 or A4 for that specific reason. If you claim to be a performance oriented car then that's what I expect. What's the point of having performance reinforced rods, bearings etc if you can't live up to it. I'll guarantee that I now is whole a lot more about cars than those putting the blame on me.

[demonmk2]

You do a lot of driving that's for sure

[Evolvd]

I don't buy the 93 octane excuse either as it's not available in every state and the ECU is designed to pull timing if the knock sensor starts acting up. You can run 87 in those motors if you absolutely had to. Performance will suffer and you'll foul your cat and O2 sensors faster but you won't blow a motor on it .

[hodrosS42001]

Recent update: I went to the dealership on Saturday to pick up my parking permit since I left It on my car. My service technician showed me to the car and the engine was out on a stand while the brand spanking new engine was right next to it. He told me that they actually flew in an Audi Field tech to condemn my engine (only person authorized) so far it's the first case with S3 supposedly. Then I asked the service tech what could have caused the engine breakdown. I was honest with him and told him that I was driving the car pretty hard (FYI: I did follow the manual for the break in period before I drove It hard). He himself even told me that the s3 was designed and built to be driven hard! I've had numerous cars before from BMW 335 to Acura GSR's and I've never had an engine break on me because of the way I drove it. With that said. He told me that there's a possibility that the reason might be from using bad gasoline??! I always used she'll or mobile 1 or Chevron which are all tier 1 has stations. And never used anything less than 91 supreme octane (max available in US) he said that these cars are meant to use 93 octanes. I still don't buy it. The only reason that makes sense to me is faulty production of the internal parts or lack of oil (but I'm sure the low oil indicator would have went on). Anyways, they never figured out what caused it but I asked the tech if Audi would do some type of favor since this occurred and he said that it's probably a long shot since the car only has 4k miles. I'll call AOA Monday morning and tell them the issues. It's actually perfect because they've been calling me to see how my audi is doing and if I was satisfied with their product. To rest my case....I am not taking responsibility for the engine breakdown. I'm a car guy and I'm not a punk kid that doesn't know a cars limits. I paid a good amount of $ for a reputable sports compact sedan and that's what I expect. I didn't buy an A3 or A4 for that specific reason. If you claim to be a performance oriented car then that's what I expect. What's the point of having performance reinforced rods, bearings etc if you can't live up to it. I'll guarantee that I now is whole a lot more about cars than those putting the blame on me.

So they are blaming pre-detonation as the cause of the engine failure? It's a possibility but not a probability. The ECU will simply pull back timing accordingly. Unless there was a total fueling related issue that caused the engine to run super lean for an extended period.

[jriddle11]

Recent update: I went to the dealership on Saturday to pick up my parking permit since I left It on my car. My service technician showed me to the car and the engine was out on a stand while the brand spanking new engine was right next to it. He told me that they actually flew in an Audi Field tech to condemn my engine (only person authorized) so far it's the first case with S3 supposedly. Then I asked the service tech what could have caused the engine breakdown. I was honest with him and told him that I was driving the car pretty hard (FYI: I did follow the manual for the break in period before I drove It hard). He himself even told me that the s3 was designed and built to be driven hard! I've had numerous cars before from BMW 335 to Acura GSR's and I've never had an engine break on me because of the way I drove it. With that said. He told me that there's a possibility that the reason might be from using bad gasoline??! I always used she'll or mobile 1 or Chevron which are all tier 1 has stations. And never used anything less than 91 supreme octane (max available in US) he said that these cars are meant to use 93 octanes. I still don't buy it. The only reason that makes sense to me is faulty production of the internal parts or lack of oil (but I'm sure the low oil indicator would have went on). Anyways, they never figured out what caused it but I asked the tech if Audi would do some type of favor since this occurred and he said that it's probably a long shot since the car only has 4k miles. I'll call AOA Monday morning and tell them the issues. It's actually perfect because they've been calling me to see how my audi is doing and if I was satisfied with their product. To rest my case....I am not taking responsibility for the engine breakdown. I'm a car guy and I'm not a punk kid that doesn't know a cars limits. I paid a good amount of $ for a reputable sports compact sedan and that's what I expect. I didn't buy an A3 or A4 for that specific reason. If you claim to be a performance oriented car then that's what I expect. What's the point of having performance reinforced rods, bearings etc if you can't live up to it. I'll guarantee that I now is whole a lot more about cars than those putting the blame on me.

Sucks to hear about this because the S3 is a great car. If it was me I would reach out to AoA customer support and also have the service manager reach out to his regional rep. I have owned Audis since 1998 and Audi has stepped up in the past when I needed it and I since I started selling them (4 years ago) I have seen them step up for customers. Just kill them with kindness with your disappointment and keep pushing. Good Luck!

[ModdedEuros]

First time Im hearing of one fail. Have about 3200 miles on our S3 here with no issues

[zarraz]

I don,t get the "it needs to be broken in" I have had a lot of cars over the years and drove them all like hell from the get go, never an issue, I have an s3 on the way so now a bit scared, is this a one off, or is there an issue if the car is constantly driven hard, which Audi knows....

[Dyim]

I don,t get the "it needs to be broken in" I have had a lot of cars over the years and drove them all like hell from the get go, never an issue, I have an s3 on the way so now a bit scared, is this a one off, or is there an issue if the car is constantly driven hard, which Audi knows....

+1

There must be something else going on other than being driven hard.

[Das Ponto]

I don,t get the "it needs to be broken in" I have had a lot of cars over the years and drove them all like hell from the get go, never an issue, I have an s3 on the way so now a bit scared, is this a one off, or is there an issue if the car is constantly driven hard, which Audi knows....

+1

There must be something else going on other than being driven hard.

Definitely something else defective, could be as simple as the oil pick up.

Regardless a lot of people overseas already have A3's and S3's without issue. So I wouldn't be scared from one case popping up.

And well car is constantly bagged isn't good for any vehicle, one thing that hasn't been mentioned is cool down time. Not saying the PO didn't let his car cool down properly, but that can cause major problems as well. Less now with synthetic oils, but still very hard on any engine.

[GarrettsS4]

Seems like a one time thing so I wouldn't be worried if I had an S3 on the way. (I wish I had an S3 on the way lol)

[Dyim]

I bought my 2015 audi S3 two months ago and I finally took it in to get serviced after an EPC light went on. My car has about 4k miles and the audi mechanic said that one of the cylinder has high compression. They also saw bits of metal in the oil after they drained it. Now audi is putting a whole new engine in my car. This is my first Audi and I must say that I'm extremely disappointed with them. How can something like this happen besides poor craftsmanship. Definitely no truth in engineering in this case. Now I don't even wanna keep the car cause I'm scared that it'll have massive problems in the future!

Update?

[AllroadCorbin]

That's 24,000 miles a year. Pretty standard for a lot of us. And I work from home...

I came over from the B8 Allroad forum because i'm interested in the new S3 but just wanted to say 4k miles after 2 months isn't alot. My allroad is a 2013, purchased new 2 years ago and i'm about to cross 60,000 miles. I had 3k on the clock after 3 weeks