Motor mounts upgrade

[marlboro]

I have searched around but it seems there is no general consensus on what would be the best motor mounts upgrade for an S-line manual. Mine are starting to leak slightly, so they will be due soon. So far, I think the options are:

1. Stock OEM
2. OEM RS4
3. 034 Motorsport - 50a durometer
4. Stern - 65a durometer
5. BFI - 65a durometer
6. ECS - 70a durometer
7. Autospeed - 80a durometer

034 has some good reviews but also some say, they increase vibration and even fail more often. I need something better (if possible) than the OEM without adding extra vibration. What would you recommend?

Also, I got the 034 Snub. Do I need the metal bracket as well to fit nicely without issues?

[Hugh@EuropaParts]

Anything "better" will cause more vibration because it's not liquid filled... the 034 is your best bet if you don't want to remain stock. As far as the snub mount is concerned it fits in the stock location without any extra hardware.

034Motorsport Motor Mount Set (Street Density, Set of 2)

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We're proud to announce the availability of the 034Motorsport's Street Density motor mounts for B5, B6, B7, and C5 chassis Audi and B5 Chassis Volkswagen models! They are designed with performance in mind, and manufactured from high-durometer rubber for increased performance and durability, without sacrificing comfort.

These Street Density motor mounts are manufactured from 50 durometer rubber, which is approximately 10% stiffer than stock. Since the mounts are also void-free and solid-filled, the resulting mount is approximately 25% stiffer than stock, eliminating the slop associated with the factory mounts. The mount bases are made from steel, and are much stronger than the factory aluminum ones, to cope with the added stress of spirited driving.

The result is greatly reduced drivetrain slop, crisper shifting, and minimal wheel hop, without any significant increase in noise, vibration, or harshness (NVH) inside of the cabin. These mounts are a completely re-engineered performance solution, not just inserts for use with the factory mounts.

Features

• Manufactured from 50 durometer (Street Density) rubber with void-free construction
• Reduced drivetrain slop
• Decreased engine movement under load
• More direct power transfer
• Improved shifting feel
• Complete drop-in replacement of factory engine mounts
• Comes with protective sleeves
• Sold in pairs (one vehicle requires 2 mounts)

034Motorsport Engine Snub Mount (B6/B7/C5/C6)

This performance polyurethane snub mount fits most late-model Audi vehicles manufactured after 2002, and is designed to increase stabilization of the motor under acceleration. 1mm undersized for vibration free performance when no load is on the engine.

FITS THE FOLLOWING MODELS:

• 2002 - 2008 Audi A4 & S4 B6/B7
• 2000 - 2011 Audi A6 & S6 C5/C6
• 2001 - 2005 Audi allroad C5

[FraggyA4]

I have 034 and like them so far nothing to complain about, but I'm a fan of the BFI's because they are rebuildable not sure how they feel or how they hold up.

[chris@fifteen52]

I have OEM RS4s and make sure they are made in Avon and am very happy with them.

[vwnobby]

I replaced mine with 034 Street Density. I was concerned about increased vibration but I have not noticed any difference in vibration. They feel like OEM.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

We also have our ECS Performance Mount Kit available now for 2.0T motors!

Features include:

• Tuned polyurethane isolators selected for a firm yet compliant ride
• Precision machined billet 6061-T6 housing for durability and corrosion resistance.
• Engine operating conditions and drivetrain forces carefully analyzed to allow for a bushing design that withstands engine and drivetrain forces, and dampens natural engine vibration frequencies.
• Our poly material is more resistant to water, ozone, and chemicals, maintaining its resiliency and elasticity longer than conventional rubber.
• Crisper throttle response & more precise shifts
• Long-term testing done on multiple vehicles for real-world qualification
• All stainless steel hardware used for corrosion protection

Click HERE to order or for more information


Let me know if you have any questions

Jason

[chris@fifteen52]

Damn but I do need a new snub mount, mine from ECS Tuning is finally failing after 200k miles. Do they have a lifetime warranty? ;)

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Damn but I do need a new snub mount, mine from ECS Tuning is finally failing after 200k miles. Do they have a lifetime warranty? ;)

More than likely.

Give Chris V. customer service a call and he'll get you taken care of. 1-800-924-5172 ex 263 Or send him an e-mail if it's easier ([email protected])

Jason

[TsmithA4]

034 SD.

[chris@fifteen52]

More than likely.

Give Chris V. customer service a call and he'll get you taken care of. 1-800-924-5172 ex 263 Or send him an e-mail if it's easier ([email protected])

Jason

OK thx I sent him an email

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

OK thx I sent him an email

Sounds good!

Jason

[IKE20VA4]

I have the ECS B5 S4 mounts. http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2587616/
Depends on what you are looking for. Mine were blown and I didn't want more vibration, I wanted less vibration. These have been great so far, especially for the money.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

I have the ECS B5 S4 mounts. http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2587616/
Depends on what you are looking for. Mine were blown and I didn't want more vibration, I wanted less vibration. These have been great so far, especially for the money.

Appreciate the feed back and the order!

Jason

[marlboro]

ECS mounts are listed under Quattro only. My car is FWD. What difference would that make? And besides, I'm located in dark Africa. Does ECS ship here?

Also, does anyone know if there is any difference between OEM S-line and non S-line mounts?

[FraggyA4]

ECS mounts are listed under Quattro only. My car is FWD. What difference would that make? And besides, I'm located in dark Africa. Does ECS ship here?

Also, does anyone know if there is any difference between OEM S-line and non S-line mounts?

FWD cars have an electronic sensor I believe.

[marlboro]

FWD cars have an electronic sensor I believe.

Isn't the sensor on automatic transmissions only? Mine is manual.

[kegobeer]

FWD cars have an electronic sensor I believe.

No sensors on my FWD CVT base A4, so not all FWD have them.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

ECS mounts are listed under Quattro only. My car is FWD. What difference would that make? And besides, I'm located in dark Africa. Does ECS ship here?

Also, does anyone know if there is any difference between OEM S-line and non S-line mounts?

Fitment wise they should still bolt up as the engine is still in the same orientation as quatto vehicles.

We also have different kits available if your vehicle is equipped with sensors - Click HERE

And yes we can ship to Africa, once you add the items to your cart and are ready for check out click the drop down to select your country and enter your postal code.

Jason

[vce1232000]

Recommend 034. Why Because I have them... Only complaint is I didnt get them sooner

[IKE20VA4]

I did a lot of research before buying mine. There are some other threads out there like this one, with similar info. :)

Oh wait....this one...damn I'm good!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lacement-in-B7

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[viziers]

FWD cars have an electronic sensor I believe.

Mine didn't have a sensor......



vizi

[Endmass]

I have the ECS mounts on mine.

Only been a week, but I've got no complaints. I do notice a little more vibration at idle, but I have all the other poly mounts aswell.

[marlboro]

I did a lot of research before buying mine. There are some other threads out there like this one, with similar info. :)

Oh wait....this one...damn I'm good!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...lacement-in-B7

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In that thread, I see you went with B5 S4 mounts. Why did you choose those over anything else? You say, you've done a lot of research but no information whatsoever on that "research".

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

I have the ECS mounts on mine.

Only been a week, but I've got no complaints. I do notice a little more vibration at idle, but I have all the other poly mounts aswell.

Appreciate the feed back! Thanks for the order as well!

Jason

[Alucard136]

Do i need to lift the engien when changing to the esc mounts linked above?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Do i need to lift the engien when changing to the esc mounts linked above?

It's always a good idea to support the engine while changing out the motor mounts. Actually lifting it up can help ease installation if the mounts are thicker than OEM, which our mounts aren't - so if anything it would only be necessary to keep it from sagging while doing the swap.

Jason

[marlboro]

What durometer are the ECS mounts?

[Alucard136]

So i can do it with a garage lift under the engien?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

What durometer are the ECS mounts?

70A durometer.

So i can do it with a garage lift under the engien?

Absolutely.

Jason

[Alucard136]

Sweet :) so what kind of job is it? Been googling some but cant relly find anything about it. Never done anything involving an engien lift

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Sweet :) so what kind of job is it? Been googling some but cant relly find anything about it. Never done anything involving an engien lift

Nothing too complicated. I searched on google and a got quite a few hits for DIY's and install tips.

Click HERE

Jason

[Alucard136]

Now i feel stupid. This goes on my to do list

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Now i feel stupid. This goes on my to do list

Some times all it takes is the right key words to get more hits on Google!

Jason

[IKE20VA4]

In that thread, I see you went with B5 S4 mounts. Why did you choose those over anything else? You say, you've done a lot of research but no information whatsoever on that "research".

Personal preference lead me to those. Price and stock like feel. That's pretty much it.

[ultraleggera a4]

Stern Mount rating is 65a for street 85a for track motor mounts

Anyone know the rs4 motor mount durometer?

[Endmass]

Stern Mount rating is 65a for street 85a for track motor mounts

Anyone know the rs4 motor mount durometer?

Aren't stock mounts fluid filled?


Durometer would have little to do with vibration at that point.

[ultraleggera a4]

Oh yeah lol, I guess I'm a little tired and confused at this point, but I noticed Autospeed Mounts weren't on the list they are by far the most firm mounts available with 95a durometer.

[marlboro]

Stern Mount rating is 65a for street 85a for track motor mounts

Anyone know the rs4 motor mount durometer?

Where did you find that info? I've been searching but nothing came up for Stern.

Oh yeah lol, I guess I'm a little tired and confused at this point, but I noticed Autospeed Mounts weren't on the list they are by far the most firm mounts available with 95a durometer.

Autospeed with 95a, isn't it track only use?

[ultraleggera a4]

The Autospeed also comes in street version of 80a durometer, as for the rating on stern I found it on some random site I can remember but when I find it I'll let you know.

[ultraleggera a4]

I also found another brand of motor mounts, but they look weird.

Silover project motor mounts 60a durometer