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    Escort Passport Max 2 Radar Detector

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    In September of 2014, Escort released their newest and most advanced radar detector, the Passport Max 2. The basic concept is based off of the Escort Passport Max, which is an innovator in the radar detector industry. The Passport Max 2 adds a key component however, which is the ability to wirelessly connect to Escort Live on your phone via Bluetooth. More on Escort Live in the article. I got this unit in on review and the unit is in pre order until September 22nd 2014.

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    First of all… what is Escort Live? Escort Live is Escort’s “social network for the road”. It allows users of Escort and Beltronics products to connect their iPhone or Android device to the cloud and share speed trap, laser trap, radar trap, and red light cameras all via the push of a button on their smartphones. In past units offered by Escort and Beltronics however, a special cord was required. This was quite an expensive cord. At $100, it wasn’t for everyone since many were still spending $500+ on a new radar detector. On the new Passport Max 2 however you no longer need this cord since it directly connects to your phone and doesn’t require a Bluetooth cord. Also in past units, you had to pick whether you wanted a cord for Android or iPhone. Now with this unit, it works with either iPhone or Android so if you switch phones you don’t need to run out and purchase a new cord.

    The other large advantage with Escort Live is that if you don’t want to run a laser jammer, then this can help you know when a laser trap is up ahead. If you are not familiar with laser then know this. When the officer aims at your car, your speed is instantly captured. Laser jammers can prevent this but if you are not looking to spend the money on laser jammers, or if you don’t want to have to install them because you have a leased vehicle then Escort Live can save you. It will let you know up to 5000 feet before you get to the officer. I normally set all of my alerts for 5000 feet so that I get the maximum amount of distance. It then counts down until you are at the officer. I have found this very useful if I am driving a car without jammers, or even when you are driving on a car with jammers you can know before you reach the officer.

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    What makes the Max or Max 2 such a great detector. The main item that differentiates the Max and Max 2 from other detectors on the market is what Escort calls, DSP. DSP is known as Digital Signal Processing. One of the biggest advantages with this technology that I have found with daily driving is that it filters out interference from other radar detectors. Many of the cheaper Cobra radar detectors on the market can cause interference with your higher end radar detector and cause your detector to go off. However, with the Max it filters this out to eliminate this. I have also noticed that many of the highway traffic drones that check traffic flow for your news stations are filtered out a lot better. Lastly, this also seems to help with blind spot monitoring systems found on a lot of Buicks and other cars. I find this very helpful and although I haven’t had the chance to test the unit on a vehicle with blind spot monitoring built into the vehicle I was testing it in, I have found that it cuts down on false signals from the systems around me.

    Also the wide user base for this detector is amazing. Escort has incorporated a system on this detector called Novice Mode. You can cycle into this mode and it will put all of the settings to default. This way you can hand it over to someone that has no knowledge on detectors and they will have no problem using it. I could give this detector to someone that has never used a radar detector before and they would be able to drive with it without a problem. So if you want a detector that you can use on the weekends and also something that your wife can use then this is the detector for you.

    The customization as far as the screen and button LED colors is very cool. It allows you to change the screen color and LED color so depending upon what color the instruments are, you can customize it. So on my S4 I use the red color since it matches with everything else.

    The mount for the unit is something that is better than anything else I have used. Escort calls it the sticky cup. It really is sticky. It is the combination of a sticky mount with a suction cup. What is nice though is that it really stays on until you want it to come off but when you want to remove it, it comes right off. I have had mine on one of our cars for a year now and it is still on there. That is through a very cold winter and a hot summer.

    One other thing I would like to mention is that fact that Escort includes a carrying case. This comes in handy when wanting to transport it from one car to the next.

    Comparisons-

    Price of Max 2 vs Max- The Max 2 is $600 and the Max is $550

    Why should I buy a Max 2 vs Max? - I think the most compelling reason is cost of the Escort Live cord. The Escort Live cords are $100 a piece. The normal (non Escort Live) cord is $30. If you plan on buying multiple cords then it would make sense to spend the extra $50 so that you could use the normal cord. I also think that the compactness of having the Bluetooth module built into the detector rather than the cord is a very attractive feature.

    Should I buy the Max 2 or the Redline. I have received this question a couple of times when talking with people. My answer is for 95% of the people is to get the Max 2. The Max and Max 2 has always been my go to detector. If you do all city driving, or 50/50 mix of city and highway or really if you do any city driving at all get the Max 2. Even on the highway you can get false signals from business along the freeway. However, if you live in the middle of nowhere in the desert with straight flat open roads, or if you live in an area that demands the need for a radar detector detector immune unit then you should go with the Redline.

    What if I have a 9500ix? Should I upgrade? The answer is absolutely yes. I have a 9500ix in my collection as well. There is such little comparison between the two. One of the only similar items on both units is the fact that they have GPS built in to lock out signals. The 9500ix is much worse in my experience at picking up Instant On shots. I am not saying the 9500ix is bad but if you have a 9500ix, you should strongly consider upgrading to the Max 2.

    I am not going to compare this unit with other units from other brands. If you want me too then let me know but I don’t want this review to turn into a bashing of other brands based on my opinion.

    Let me know if you have any questions.
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    Good sir, what is the point of the bluetooth app to your phone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by i1overice View Post
    Good sir, what is the point of the bluetooth app to your phone?
    I am not sure if I understand your question. Escort live connects via Bluetooth so the phone and radar detector are connected. This allows you to be connected with other escort and beltronics users so that you know about a speed trap before your radar detector even goes off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b8audis4 View Post
    I am not sure if I understand your question. Escort live connects via Bluetooth so the phone and radar detector are connected. This allows you to be connected with other escort and beltronics users so that you know about a speed trap before your radar detector even goes off.
    Oh I see. So using crowd sourcing. In VA, radar detectors are still outlawed, kind of silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i1overice View Post
    Oh I see. So using crowd sourcing. In VA, radar detectors are still outlawed, kind of silly.
    Yes and that is where using a product like the beltronics stir plus would come in handy. Can't be detected by radar detector detectors and can go behind your bumper.
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    I love how we are combatting against traffic cops with various applications via our smart phones and now things like this.

    Unfortunately, they (cops) will continue to innovate their technologies as well.

    I'm sorry, but I have no respect for traffic cops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okan509 View Post
    I love how we are combatting against traffic cops with various applications via our smart phones and now things like this.

    Unfortunately, they (cops) will continue to innovate their technologies as well.

    I'm sorry, but I have no respect for traffic cops.
    Haha. Yep. They will con tune to try and outsmart us but Escort is keeping up very well.
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    What also works even better than any radar detector is to not speed.

    Just sayin'...#publicserviceannouncement
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    What's the side look like? I sold my max after 3 months, loved it but it bounced around and vibrated so badly that the case split in half on the side. It was a huge issue i found out after googling. Do you know if this one addressed those issues??

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    Quote Originally Posted by theedge111 View Post
    What's the side look like? I sold my max after 3 months, loved it but it bounced around and vibrated so badly that the case split in half on the side. It was a huge issue i found out after googling. Do you know if this one addressed those issues??
    I would have to get with my rep over at escort and see. I will let you know. I never had this problem.
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    Well, glad I just stuck with the 9500ix instead of buying the Max when it came out. I'd be pissed right now if I did. I only want one detector not a collection. I read a lot of negative things about Max - mostly software issues and crappy plastic. Escort should have taken the time to do it right and build in the Max 2 functionality upfront IMO.
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    I have the Max and have the metal rear view mirror mount (can't remember the name right now) and have had zero issues with it....and it has saved my ass more than once!! Best detector I have ever had and I have had just about all of them!! I will say that the Max 2 looks JUST like the Max and seems to be made exactly the same, as far as the construction! But again, if you get the right mount, it is solid as a rock with NO issues!! And I do have the Escort LIVE cord as well....it works as advertised....great add on!! But the blue tooth connection would be even better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickFLS4 View Post
    Well, glad I just stuck with the 9500ix instead of buying the Max when it came out. I'd be pissed right now if I did. I only want one detector not a collection. I read a lot of negative things about Max - mostly software issues and crappy plastic. Escort should have taken the time to do it right and build in the Max 2 functionality upfront IMO.
    Yes now is a good time to upgrade but that is really up to you. Yes and this detector is perfect for those that want one good detector. Some of the software on the new models right at the release had a couple issues which seem to have been worked out but I think that's with any product so that doesn't concern me.
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    I will say this I never had that issue. Although I am sure plenty of people did when people start posting online it makes it look like everyone had this issue. I have heard of this issue too and completely agree with you. It is also though like the dsg issues and sport diff issues you hear on here but yes I have heard of the same thing and completely agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VADERS4 View Post
    I have the Max and have the metal rear view mirror mount (can't remember the name right now) and have had zero issues with it....and it has saved my ass more than once!! Best detector I have ever had and I have had just about all of them!! I will say that the Max 2 looks JUST like the Max and seems to be made exactly the same, as far as the construction! But again, if you get the right mount, it is solid as a rock with NO issues!! And I do have the Escort LIVE cord as well....it works as advertised....great add on!! But the blue tooth connection would be even better!!
    Yes you have the blendmount. The great thing about that is since it doesn't attach to the windshield it looks like part of the car. Thanks for your input.
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    Any Audizine discounts available on this?


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    I bought and tried a passport max and I loved it but not having the arrows like from the V1 was a deal breaker. I hate the v1 because it gives you nothing but false readings and is constantly going off (that's probably how it saves you lol). I seriously wish escort found some sort of way to incorporate arrows.

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    The Max (and Max 2) still have issues, both with the case and with software. At this point if I were buying a windshield mounted detector I'd go Redline + Live or V1 + YaV1. Bel STI-R Plus is the best period but it is expensive and requires an install. In any case I would also add a laser jammer and the ALP is top of that game right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itzjonjon69 View Post
    I bought and tried a passport max and I loved it but not having the arrows like from the V1 was a deal breaker. I hate the v1 because it gives you nothing but false readings and is constantly going off (that's probably how it saves you lol). I seriously wish escort found some sort of way to incorporate arrows.
    Yes, I tried a V1 and personally could not stand it. Gave it a few months and sold it on Ebay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by helix139 View Post
    The Max (and Max 2) still have issues, both with the case and with software. At this point if I were buying a windshield mounted detector I'd go Redline + Live or V1 + YaV1. Bel STI-R Plus is the best period but it is expensive and requires an install. In any case I would also add a laser jammer and the ALP is top of that game right now.

    Yes, honestly every product is going to have issues. It is brand new technology when it comes to what they did with DSP. Redline is fantastic and I really liked mine.

    ALP is fantastic, LSP is great too.
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    Just want to remind everyone that this is now available for order.
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    Gonna stick with my 9500 + ZR4, personally I don't see any points to invest money into "anti-cop" system before the cops actually upgrade theirs...

    Have been using my 9500 for almost 3 years and I'm pretty happy with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Gonna stick with my 9500 + ZR4, personally I don't see any points to invest money into "anti-cop" system before the cops actually upgrade theirs...

    Have been using my 9500 for almost 3 years and I'm pretty happy with it
    FYI I'd ditch the ZR4 and pick up an ALP. ZR4 is virtually useless against several of the guns in wide usage now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itzjonjon69 View Post
    I bought and tried a passport max and I loved it but not having the arrows like from the V1 was a deal breaker. I hate the v1 because it gives you nothing but false readings and is constantly going off (that's probably how it saves you lol). I seriously wish escort found some sort of way to incorporate arrows.
    The arrows are patented by V1, so Escort will never have them unless Valentine sells the rights to the technology.

    I personally have a V1 in both my cars; works great and no false readings once you understand where everything is coming from and customize the settings.

    To each their own. Passport vs. V1...personal preference at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiS4SD View Post
    The arrows are patented by V1, so Escort will never have them unless Valentine sells the rights to the technology.

    I personally have a V1 in both my cars; works great and no false readings once you understand where everything is coming from and customize the settings.

    To each their own. Passport vs. V1...personal preference at this point.
    Patents do run out and Valentine has been around for many years already. Would have to find the patent number and check the dates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xuandatou View Post
    Gonna stick with my 9500 + ZR4, personally I don't see any points to invest money into "anti-cop" system before the cops actually upgrade theirs...

    Have been using my 9500 for almost 3 years and I'm pretty happy with it
    9500 is great but I would recommend upgrading to the Laser Shifter Pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the4siswickid View Post
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    Anyone know how the passport and the max2 differ aside from the built in escort live?

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    Mine arrived, but I'm having nothing but trouble with it. Detector locks up and gets stuck in an alert, iPhone app reports that after 10 minutes of inactivity location services are being shut down and I need to restart the app to connect again? So every morning, lunch break, appointment, errands, etc., I have to start Live again? This is a pain. Further, the detector randomly loses my settings and starts announcing things like I'm over the limit.... Repeatedly. And auto brightness doesn't work.... At all. This detector was far from ready for prime time!


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    Gotta say the quality of the Passport Max is a pile. Me and friend got one at same time and his case started to come apart within the month and had to send it back. My GPS was really erratic and cut out all the time. Had to send mine back too and now it works fine(after fixing it) but they replaced my case also. Only good feature of Passport Max is the learning function where it will store false signals and mute it next time.

    Whats the point of Max 2 for bluetooth when Waze is much better than Escort live...millions of users of Waze vs how many 1000's for Escort owners??? Best protection excluding shifters is Passport and Waze.

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    This is an interesting thread (I am a Bel STiR user, but still love Passports). Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that Escort is doing a good job keeping up with the sneakiness of the cops technology. I am from Cincinnati, specifically, my former employer was right next door to Cincinnati Microwave, the manufacturer of Escorts and Passports. (Oddly, right before that, my employer was right next door to Valentine, a few miles down the road).

    With all that said, you are aware that Cincinnati Microwave makes the majority of the radar/laser guns used by law enforcement, aren't you? There is no keeping up with the police, I'd be willing to bet, they make a new gun, and at the same time, produce the next detector. Kind of feels dirty doesn't it!? For what it is worth, I do not believe they make the VG2 or other detector-detectors.

    And finally, the CEO of Valentine originally was with CM, and split off for some difference of opinions, and if I remember the rumor correctly, it was the arrows. So, that will always be their claim to fame, and it is unbelievably useful. But I don't know what is patented, because my STiR points in the direction of red light camera's and speed traps, why can't the max?

    And finally, I believe the STiR is the same unit as the 9500CI, minus laser shifting. I chose it because I wanted a better LS, and my radar-mirror install to be red and match the interior.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leor604 View Post
    Patents do run out and Valentine has been around for many years already. Would have to find the patent number and check the dates.
    They do, and I believe the patent on the arrows ran out earlier this year or last. I have a 2 V1's, an older one (over 5 years old) and a newer one (2 years old). The older one works well and doesn't give false readings as much - the newer one though falses like crazy. If it wasn't for the arrows I probably would have sold it a long time ago.

    Rumors are there's FINALLY a new detector coming out from Valentine soon - but that was 2 weeks ago...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8audis4 View Post
    9500 is great but I would recommend upgrading to the Laser Shifter Pro.
    ALP>Laser Interceptor>>>Blinder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laser Shifter Pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by helix139 View Post
    ALP>Laser Interceptor>>>Blinder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Laser Shifter Pro
    LI and LSP are basically the same unit minus upgrades taking a bit longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S4-Rob View Post
    This is an interesting thread (I am a Bel STiR user, but still love Passports). Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that Escort is doing a good job keeping up with the sneakiness of the cops technology. I am from Cincinnati, specifically, my former employer was right next door to Cincinnati Microwave, the manufacturer of Escorts and Passports. (Oddly, right before that, my employer was right next door to Valentine, a few miles down the road).

    With all that said, you are aware that Cincinnati Microwave makes the majority of the radar/laser guns used by law enforcement, aren't you? There is no keeping up with the police, I'd be willing to bet, they make a new gun, and at the same time, produce the next detector. Kind of feels dirty doesn't it!? For what it is worth, I do not believe they make the VG2 or other detector-detectors.

    And finally, the CEO of Valentine originally was with CM, and split off for some difference of opinions, and if I remember the rumor correctly, it was the arrows. So, that will always be their claim to fame, and it is unbelievably useful. But I don't know what is patented, because my STiR points in the direction of red light camera's and speed traps, why can't the max?

    And finally, I believe the STiR is the same unit as the 9500CI, minus laser shifting. I chose it because I wanted a better LS, and my radar-mirror install to be red and match the interior.
    The reason why your STIR plus can't point is because it doesn't have two horns for the front and rear. Yes the STIR Plus is actually better than the 9500ci in many ways due to the BS/RDR.
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