Mythios Black vs. Phantom Black

[chucky0731]

The new facelifted RS7 is offered in Mythos black.

Just wondering if anyone know the difference between Mythos vs. Phantom?

Tried to Google pics but can't tell the difference.

Thx and if someone has a close up pic of Mythos that would be GREAT!!!

[HyperM3]

There really isnt any difference. Just a new name.

[toblerthedog]

Mythos -> uses metallic flake
Phantom -> uses pearl flake

Info "borrowed" from another site...

Material

Metallic: Usually uses very small flakes of aluminum to give the car an obvious sparkle. These aluminum flakes are relatively uniform in size and are evenly mixed with the paint itself.
Pearl: This paint type uses small flakes of mica, a synthetic material that resembles the sheen of a natural pearl. The mica particles are also the same in size and mixed with the base paint.

Perspective-Specific Appeal

Metallic: Gives the car a shine that does not change color when looked at from a different angle. The hue of the paint stays the same no matter how you look at it.
Pearl: The shade of the color of the car will appear to change when you look at it from different perspectives. This gives an illusion of shaded and illuminated areas depending on the amount of light it gets.

Usual Applications

Metallic: Most of the cars with metallic auto paint are of sports-inspired designs with a generally edgy or race car look.
Pearl: Luxury family cars and sedans that are marketed in a corporate setting often use pearlescent car paint.

Light Reception

Metallic: Since cars with metallic paint get their shine from aluminum flakes, light is reflected. These metal flakes act like tiny dots of mirrors spread evenly on the car. This mechanism makes the car shiny in a glitter-like way.
Pearl: The mica particles found in pearl car paints do not reflect light. Instead, the mica flakes let light pass through them and then they are refracted evenly throughout the car’s surface. Unlike the metallic flakes, these mica specks act like very small prisms that refract white light into different shades.

Final Finish

Metallic: The aluminum flakes in metallic paint give a car a very apparent shine which gives it a loud effect.
Pearl: The mica particles in pearlescent paint give cars more of a glow than a shine. It makes cars look crisp, yet soft at the same time.

[HyperM3]

Mythos -> uses metallic flake
Phantom -> uses pearl flake

Info "borrowed" from another site...

Material

Metallic: Usually uses very small flakes of aluminum to give the car an obvious sparkle. These aluminum flakes are relatively uniform in size and are evenly mixed with the paint itself.
Pearl: This paint type uses small flakes of mica, a synthetic material that resembles the sheen of a natural pearl. The mica particles are also the same in size and mixed with the base paint.

Perspective-Specific Appeal

Metallic: Gives the car a shine that does not change color when looked at from a different angle. The hue of the paint stays the same no matter how you look at it.
Pearl: The shade of the color of the car will appear to change when you look at it from different perspectives. This gives an illusion of shaded and illuminated areas depending on the amount of light it gets.

Usual Applications

Metallic: Most of the cars with metallic auto paint are of sports-inspired designs with a generally edgy or race car look.
Pearl: Luxury family cars and sedans that are marketed in a corporate setting often use pearlescent car paint.

Light Reception

Metallic: Since cars with metallic paint get their shine from aluminum flakes, light is reflected. These metal flakes act like tiny dots of mirrors spread evenly on the car. This mechanism makes the car shiny in a glitter-like way.
Pearl: The mica particles found in pearl car paints do not reflect light. Instead, the mica flakes let light pass through them and then they are refracted evenly throughout the car’s surface. Unlike the metallic flakes, these mica specks act like very small prisms that refract white light into different shades.

Final Finish

Metallic: The aluminum flakes in metallic paint give a car a very apparent shine which gives it a loud effect.
Pearl: The mica particles in pearlescent paint give cars more of a glow than a shine. It makes cars look crisp, yet soft at the same time.

Even with all that, we cant even see the difference when they are on the lot next to each other.

[agent47]

Mythos -> uses metallic flake
Phantom -> uses pearl flake

Info "borrowed" from another site...

Material

Metallic: Usually uses very small flakes of aluminum to give the car an obvious sparkle. These aluminum flakes are relatively uniform in size and are evenly mixed with the paint itself.
Pearl: This paint type uses small flakes of mica, a synthetic material that resembles the sheen of a natural pearl. The mica particles are also the same in size and mixed with the base paint.

Perspective-Specific Appeal

Metallic: Gives the car a shine that does not change color when looked at from a different angle. The hue of the paint stays the same no matter how you look at it.
Pearl: The shade of the color of the car will appear to change when you look at it from different perspectives. This gives an illusion of shaded and illuminated areas depending on the amount of light it gets.

Usual Applications

Metallic: Most of the cars with metallic auto paint are of sports-inspired designs with a generally edgy or race car look.
Pearl: Luxury family cars and sedans that are marketed in a corporate setting often use pearlescent car paint.

Light Reception

Metallic: Since cars with metallic paint get their shine from aluminum flakes, light is reflected. These metal flakes act like tiny dots of mirrors spread evenly on the car. This mechanism makes the car shiny in a glitter-like way.
Pearl: The mica particles found in pearl car paints do not reflect light. Instead, the mica flakes let light pass through them and then they are refracted evenly throughout the car’s surface. Unlike the metallic flakes, these mica specks act like very small prisms that refract white light into different shades.

Final Finish

Metallic: The aluminum flakes in metallic paint give a car a very apparent shine which gives it a loud effect.
Pearl: The mica particles in pearlescent paint give cars more of a glow than a shine. It makes cars look crisp, yet soft at the same time.

Very useful info. Funny though that my car is Dakota Gray Metallic - looks brown at times , looks gray at times , I guess it just depends on the car's mood :P

[chucky0731]

Perspective-Specific Appeal

Metallic: Gives the car a shine that does not change color when looked at from a different angle. The hue of the paint stays the same no matter how you look at it.
Pearl: The shade of the color of the car will appear to change when you look at it from different perspectives. This gives an illusion of shaded and illuminated areas depending on the amount of light it gets.
[B]

Thx so much for the extended info.

I noticed there are also "crystal" type of paint for Audi, in addition to "Pearl" and "Metallic".

Anyone knows how "Crystal" type of paint reflects light?

[Fredro Starr]

Interesting.

From the poached information, it appears Pearl and Metallic are mutually exclusive paints. I wonder how to reconcile my color, emerald green pear metallic?

[InvigR8]

I saw the two of them next to each other and from a distance they do look the same, but up close there is just slightly more color in the individual sparkles of the Phantom. The Phantom Black paint has some purple and green sparkles in it, but it still looks black, unlike the _Panther_ Black which also has a purple/brown tint to it at an angle in direct sunlight.

[Yaemish]

I thought I would chime in. I love the look of pearl but I don't think I would ever purchase a car with it again. While it is a different brand, I had a pearl painted Cadillac. If you ever need to have work requiring paint, it will never match the rest of the car. It will look right in some lights, then you move and the panel will look like it belongs to a different car.

[Omega Supreme 5]

I saw the two of them next to each other and from a distance they do look the same, but up close there is just slightly more color in the individual sparkles of the Phantom. The Phantom Black paint has some purple and green sparkles in it, but it still looks black, unlike the _Panther_ Black which also has a purple/brown tint to it at an angle in direct sunlight.

I concur. I have a 2014 S6 in phantom Black. From a distance the color is awesome. But up close, it has extra flakes that really sparkle which sets it off nicely. I believe it's the best factory color they offer

[chrisd0729]

I concur. I have a 2014 S6 in phantom Black. From a distance the color is awesome. But up close, it has extra flakes that really sparkle which sets it off nicely. I believe it's the best factory color they offer

I'm going through the same struggle between the 2 blacks... anyone have input on which may be easier to deal with on swirls in the paint? I swore a few years back that I would never buy black again because swirls were difficult to keep away after a few years of age. Can someone talk me back into black?

[bobamoo]

I thought I would chime in. I love the look of pearl but I don't think I would ever purchase a car with it again. While it is a different brand, I had a pearl painted Cadillac. If you ever need to have work requiring paint, it will never match the rest of the car. It will look right in some lights, then you move and the panel will look like it belongs to a different car.

Have often wondered about this. I have phantom black and can easily see how it would be next to impossible to ever make it match if just one panel had to be refinished. But maybe it's better on black. I know what you mean about Cadillac's pearl paint, especially the pearl white. It can change from white to a bluish-white depending on angle. I almost bought an ATS in white firemist pearl before buying the A6.