Test drove (briefly) an RS-5. Have some questions.

[scmguru]

Yep, that's more like it. It's all in the same housing. And as you can clearly see, it's a FWD-based transaxle. And that's why the torque split is 60/40 by default (GT-R is 100/0), with the entire engine hanging in front of the transaxle. WHen have you seen a RWD car with the entire engine ahead of the axle? The Corvette, Aston Martin, and BMWs have it entirely BEHIND the axle, and the GT-R a couple of inches past the front axle due to a very beefy/bulky front differential (which is more comparable with the RS-5). Oh, and the skidpad is 0.91 without nannies, with heavy understeer (physics). But with the torque vectoring and all the electronic crap, it has been as high as 0.99g indeed. And again, I'm fine with that, but denying the car is based on the A5 is just ludicrous and naive, since a simple google search clearly shows the RS-5 platform is the same as on the A5 and S5, and it takes an ounce of brain to figure out the rest. But all the power to you guys. I'll be happy to own one since it has the compromises I need. That's why I don't like most salesmen and fanboy sites; they always have to say their car is the absolute best at everything, and even deny the obvious. Now I suppose strut front suspension is better than double-wishbone too, right? And that 4K lbs with 57.3/42.7 weight distribution is perfect for a sporty car too, right? If Audi only listened to sites like this, they'd never improve their cars.

Anyway, I'm about to buy or order one, and I'll be out of here. Just need to find out if 2015s will come with magnetic shocks, or some other improvement. And make the decision if I buy a 14 or order a 15. Enjoy your perfect car folks. I'll enjoy it for what it is, and never pretend it is what it's not. Don't like making a fool out of myself :). It's a freaking VW, with the same interior as the cheapest Audi. Ha ha. And I'm not ashamed of it. Later.

Seriously.. please go away.

[hayasa]

Yep, that's more like it. It's all in the same housing. And as you can clearly see, it's a FWD-based transaxle. And that's why the torque split is 60/40 by default (GT-R is 100/0), with the entire engine hanging in front of the transaxle. WHen have you seen a RWD car with the entire engine ahead of the axle? The Corvette, Aston Martin, and BMWs have it entirely BEHIND the axle, and the GT-R a couple of inches past the front axle due to a very beefy/bulky front differential (which is more comparable with the RS-5). Oh, and the skidpad is 0.91 without nannies, with heavy understeer (physics). But with the torque vectoring and all the electronic crap, it has been as high as 0.99g indeed. And again, I'm fine with that, but denying the car is based on the A5 is just ludicrous and naive, since a simple google search clearly shows the RS-5 platform is the same as on the A5 and S5, and it takes an ounce of brain to figure out the rest. But all the power to you guys. I'll be happy to own one since it has the compromises I need. That's why I don't like most salesmen and fanboy sites; they always have to say their car is the absolute best at everything, and even deny the obvious. Now I suppose strut front suspension is better than double-wishbone too, right? And that 4K lbs with 57.3/42.7 weight distribution is perfect for a sporty car too, right? If Audi only listened to sites like this, they'd never improve their cars.

Sorry bro, but this is not correct. Audis with front longitudinally mounted engines and quattro full-time AWD are designed *from the start* as AWD platforms. This includes any of the similar models (S4, S5, S6/7/8, but not S3 or the like as they are actually FWD platforms adapted to a AWD format through a Haldex system rather than quattro.) It is ingenious engineering really, but the only downside to the quattro AWD layout is heavy engine set ahead of the front wheels. That is NOT a legacy from a FWD platform - it is inherent engineering choice made in the quattro AWD platform. If you can come up with another way to mount the engine and transaxle longitudinally (without some awkward transfer case like BMW X-drive), then you should probably let Audi HQ know since you solved one of the biggest engineering packaging problems of AWD. Probably let Subaru know too since they are very similar designs.

Also, here is some critical reading. I think you'll find page 2 very interesting: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...m-for-you.html

[mxrz]

elp_jc is simply hung up on the fact that MLB quattro cars have an FF layout, just like FWD cars, but that's all it is, a layout, not a platform. MLB isn't a platform either, it's a modular matrix system, and VW's cornerstone of modern day success, as they have evolved beyond simple platform sharing. The FF layout, with a front transaxle is indeed a choice made by Audi, not a consequence from being stuck with some FWD platform, that's pure ignorance on OP's part.

[2014RS5]

Thanks for all the info learning a lot about my new rs5 cheers...

[mxrz]

Also, if anyone is alluding to a difference between the A5/S5 and the RS5, in terms of platforms, they're talking about the newer version of quattro, with the crown gear center diff, as opposed to the older Torsen. But for all practical purposes, it is common knowledge that all B8 cars share the same variant of MLB... that just goes without saying.

[boostinfd]

He's a troll. Don't feed it!

[Brava]

@Elp_jc. He is not a troll, I know him from M3post.

I am also coming from an E92 M3, 6MT. My RS5 is what M3 was plus some more. They are very similar in character, I coudn't care less about the underlying platform as long as they perform very similar.

So in slow corners, if agressive on throttle, the RS5 oversteers (shocker!!), just like the M3, the only diferrence is the angle of the oversteer, which is rapidly corrected by transfer of torque to the front wheels. On a wet road it goes side ways big time though. Just like an M3.
With the M3, entering too fast in slow corners, the M3 understeers (shocker!!), just like the RS5, and for that matter, as any other road going car.

The S-Tronic gear box is great, I do not miss a bit the 6MT of the M3. The manual mode is really manual, many times entered in to the rev limiter. I drive it always on manual mode, and I prefer the gear lever rather than the paddles.

The engine is a gem, just as the M3's engine. Same rush of power at the top end, wonderful soundtrack, RS5 more throaty, while the M3 more screaming. Both of them sound exotic at high revs.

Steering was a bit better on the M3, not that the RS5 is lacking, but the M3 has the edge on this one. But not by far.

Other than that, I feel the RS5 is better looking inside-out, but that's subjective, and a bit more exclusive as it is a rare sight, even in Europe.

If you end up buying one, make sure you take the sport exhaust and the torque vectoring differential. Don't miss on these two. Oh, and Misano Red if you want to stand out :)

[boostinfd]

@Elp_jc. He is not a troll, I know him from M3post.

I am also coming from an E92 M3, 6MT. My RS5 is what M3 was plus some more. They are very similar in character, I coudn't care less about the underlying platform as long as they perform very similar.

So in slow corners, if agressive on throttle, the RS5 oversteers (shocker!!), just like the M3, the only diferrence is the angle of the oversteer, which is rapidly corrected by transfer of torque to the front wheels. On a wet road it goes side ways big time though. Just like an M3.
With the M3, entering too fast in slow corners, the M3 understeers (shocker!!), just like the RS5, and for that matter, as any other road going car.

The S-Tronic gear box is great, I do not miss a bit the 6MT of the M3. The manual mode is really manual, many times entered in to the rev limiter. I drive it always on manual mode, and I prefer the gear lever rather than the paddles.

The engine is a gem, just as the M3's engine. Same rush of power at the top end, wonderful soundtrack, RS5 more throaty, while the M3 more screaming. Both of them sound exotic at high revs.

Steering was a bit better on the M3, not that the RS5 is lacking, but the M3 has the edge on this one. But not by far.

Other than that, I feel the RS5 is better looking inside-out, but that's subjective, and a bit more exclusive as it is a rare sight, even in Europe.

If you end up buying one, make sure you take the sport exhaust and the torque vectoring differential. Don't miss on these two. Oh, and Misano Red if you want to stand out :)

Yes I know he's from the m3post... I read some of his very "educational" threads. He's still a troll on this forum...

Troll : One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Sounds about right to me.

[RingoZabel]

I do love how he came on here with the pretense of asking questions, and then proceeded to hold court with a multi-post tutorial for all our "benefit." There is nothing more boring in life than a know-it-all.