Coilover setup for my rs5

[MESSY1]

I am potentially thinking about installing a coilover setup for my rs5. I am looking for some opinions on a setup that won't be any harder riding than the stock setup actually maybe a bit softer and better handling than stock. Also I think I would like to lower the ride height by about 3/4". I have been looking at KW variant 2 as a possibility. Please offer some opinions so I can make a decision.

Thanks in advance

[DinB]

I am looking into this also. Check out H&R Street SS coilovers. However, I don't know anybody that has them here.

[jlifschutz]

I have the H&R street setup and absolutely love them. ride is a bit stiffer and you can definitely tell the turning is more planted. My biggest concern are bumps and scraping the front lip. I also added spacers to give it a more aggressive look which helped a ton

[Mops@Nemesis]

^Looks great. Those ceramics feel so good.

[Shawn@PacificGerman]

I had H&R'S on my 13' RS5, and immediately switched to Bilstein PSS 10's and never looked back.
It was amazing how unsettling the car felt while pushing to its limits. Im sure you are thinking the PSS 10's are too much money, but how much more are they over 3-5 years of ownership.

[ianbell330]

How much did you lower the car? Looks perfect. Have you rubbed much with it?

[mxrz]

Check out H&R Street SS coilovers..

Why, the KW V2 he's considering is already a better kit than H&R SS, and both are amateur hour compared to Bilstein or Ohlins. Do you people spend all your money on an RS5 and then eat craft dinner? Give the car the kind of aftermarket parts it deserves, not shit people put on Civics.

[swoardrider]

Why, the KW V2 he's considering is already a better kit than H&R SS, and both are amateur hour compared to Bilstein or Ohlins. Do you people spend all your money on an RS5 and then eat craft dinner? Give the car the kind of aftermarket parts it deserves, not shit people put on Civics.

Amen! That level of car deserves the best:

this: http://performanceshock.com/index.ph...oducts_id=1275

or this: http://www.psituning.com/product.php...d_331kw_04_10_



Anything less on an RS5 should be a crime

[MESSY1]

^ Can they retrofit this package with little trouble in the rs5. I like the adjustable settings

[MESSY1]

those KW DDC coil overs are triple the price of the V2

[ToddCowles01]

I did the H&R street coilovers. I don't track my car and usually will put about 3,000 miles a year on it, as it's not a DD. It rides better than stock, but I will imagine not as well as a $5k suspension, naturally. You'll want to get the upper control arms as well.

[IMG]Car_II-24 by toddcc1, on Flickr[/IMG]

[rlarsen462]

Biggest problem I have with the H&R is the rears are way too soft, so it always feels loose in the rear end, and catapults through dips. I talked myself out of the PSS10's like an idiot, but have since driven a car with them (Shawn's), and it's worlds better, albeit quite a bit stiffer.

[ianbell330]

Your car looks perfect, whats your complete suspension setup? I might do the same for my RS5.

[swoardrider]

^ Can they retrofit this package with little trouble in the rs5. I like the adjustable settings

Yes:http://www.a5oc.com/forums/a5-s5-top...lover-kit.html

those KW DDC coil overs are triple the price of the V2

You drive a $90k car. Investing $4k in a part that sees duty 100% of the time you put your foot on the gas pedal is a no brainer in my book

[MESSY1]

Well I chose to go for the KW DDC setup, left a deposit to order the parts. Got a call today from Eurotech and they told me they talked direct to KW and they say it is not recommended for the RS5. I was so looking forward to the adjustable suspension after making the decision to go this route. I know some guys have put this in there RS5's so what's the deal? HELP!

[PsYkHoTiK]

I ordered H&R RSS+ coilovers thru Achtuning. I track the car so it should be glorious in increasing adhesion. :)

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[MESSY1]

Amen! That level of car deserves the best:

this: http://performanceshock.com/index.ph...oducts_id=1275

or this: http://www.psituning.com/product.php...d_331kw_04_10_



Anything less on an RS5 should be a crime

I don't understand why they r telling me they don't recommend these for the rs5

[swoardrider]

I don't understand why they r telling me they don't recommend these for the rs5

Call them up: http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_contact.php

And call PSI tuning. They are VAG vehicle gurus in England, and they are selling the DDC kit as fitting the RS5 : http://www.psituning.com/contact.php

There are RS5 builds with the DDC Coilovers as well: http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/tag/kw-suspension/
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...AG-Motorsports

[MESSY1]

Call them up: http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_contact.php

And call PSI tuning. They are VAG vehicle gurus in England, and they are selling the DDC kit as fitting the RS5 : http://www.psituning.com/contact.php

There are RS5 builds with the DDC Coilovers as well: http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/tag/kw-suspension/
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...AG-Motorsports

I have an appointment set up with Redline speed worx for Wednesday let's c what they say.
Thanks for the help

[ToddCowles01]

I've read in other posts on other forums, that KW will say "they don't recommend it or it doesn't work" for legality reasons, as the some of their kits don't meet US DOT standards. Or they've only tested the kits on the Euro spec vehicles, so they can't "officially" support it going on a US spec vehicle.

[MESSY1]

I've read in other posts on other forums, that KW will say "they don't recommend it or it doesn't work" for legality reasons, as the some of their kits don't meet US DOT standards. Or they've only tested the kits on the Euro spec vehicles, so they can't "officially" support it going on a US spec vehicle.

What are ur thoughts on the install then? I like the adjustability aspect of the ride on the fly and lowering capabilities although I only want a 1/2" lower stance than stock. Will they warranty the product if installed on a RS5? Guess I have to make the call myself. Is it worth it?

[lsondubz]

I put the solowerks on my car and have no complaints 3k miles later

[LINDW4LL]

Solowerks on an RS 5...

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[MESSY1]

Solowerks on an RS 5...

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I am positive solowerks does not have a comparable suspension to the KW DDC. Button push to go from comfort mode to sport and sport plus. tell me if I am wrong, I hope I am.

[oascom]

man im debating to put solowerks on my a4 and still think its too cheap (550$ for coils wtf!?) to be good... solowerks on RS5 its an insult.

[LINDW4LL]

You're correct MESSY. Solo Werks is junk/questionable even for a $1500 2000 Audi A4... putting them on an RS 5... facepalm.

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[oascom]

Yeah lol

[ToddCowles01]

What are ur thoughts on the install then? I like the adjustability aspect of the ride on the fly and lowering capabilities although I only want a 1/2" lower stance than stock. Will they warranty the product if installed on a RS5? Guess I have to make the call myself. Is it worth it?

US Spec vs Euro Spec suspensions on the RS5 have some differences. Someone else can correct me, but I believe the Euro Spec has a dynamic suspension and different standards for the front/rear suspension regarding collision. But, per Greg Fowler at Eurocode Tuning, the suspension does work. May want to ping him. Here's the link to the thread on the DDC suspension.

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/rs5-gener...coilovers.html

And this...

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/rs5-gener...lover-kit.html

Per the "on the fly" adjustability, I've seen a couple of those kits on BMW's and they're a nightmare. It's quite an extensive install and you better have someone that knows what they're doing. If they pull out the instructions for anything other than to look at the wiring diagram, stop and don't let them pass go. If you're going to track it, then you're probably better off going with one of the highspeed custom kits one of the posters discussed. None of those have adjustability via an app, probably for a good reason.

Ultimately, it's your car and money. There are plenty on here that are running standard coilover setups by H&R, KW and are happy with it. For me, I don't track it, so the uplift on a higher priced coilover kit wasn't worth it. I wanted to fill out the wheel gap and improve the handling, marginally vs Ohlins or Bilstein.

[MESSY1]

US Spec vs Euro Spec suspensions on the RS5 have some differences. Someone else can correct me, but I believe the Euro Spec has a dynamic suspension and different standards for the front/rear suspension regarding collision. But, per Greg Fowler at Eurocode Tuning, the suspension does work. May want to ping him. Here's the link to the thread on the DDC suspension.

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/rs5-gener...coilovers.html

And this...

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/rs5-gener...lover-kit.html

Per the "on the fly" adjustability, I've seen a couple of those kits on BMW's and they're a nightmare. It's quite an extensive install and you better have someone that knows what they're doing. If they pull out the instructions for anything other than to look at the wiring diagram, stop and don't let them pass go. If you're going to track it, then you're probably better off going with one of the highspeed custom kits one of the posters discussed. None of those have adjustability via an app, probably for a good reason.

Ultimately, it's your car and money. There are plenty on here that are running standard coilover setups by H&R, KW and are happy with it. For me, I don't track it, so the uplift on a higher priced coilover kit wasn't worth it. I wanted to fill out the wheel gap and improve the handling, marginally vs Ohlins or Bilstein.

thanks for the input. I do track the car so the ease of adjustability is really nice with these KW's. I have a call in to the company in jersey who just did a set up on an rs5. I will see where this goes.

[PsYkHoTiK]

If you track, why not experiment with adjustable suspension rather than 3 pre set settings?

http://www.hrsprings.com/application...ts/3/1542/2013

http://www.hrsprings.com/products/coil-overs/

They have a part number for the RS5 in the US.


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[MESSY1]

If you track, why not experiment with adjustable suspension rather than 3 pre set settings?

http://www.hrsprings.com/application...ts/3/1542/2013

http://www.hrsprings.com/products/coil-overs/

They have a part number for the RS5 in the US.


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If you get the iphone ap u can adjust each corner from 0% to 100% thru the phone

[rlarsen462]

Has anyone tested the RS5 H&R RSS+? Maybe even vs. the PSS10's?

[westwest888]

I wouldn't put cheap coilovers on an RS5. The stock setup is quite good. There are lots of ways to make it worse with cheaper, less durable parts that need rebuilds every 2 years.

[MESSY1]

I wouldn't put cheap coilovers on an RS5. The stock setup is quite good. There are lots of ways to make it worse with cheaper, less durable parts that need rebuilds every 2 years.

Do you think the KW DDC's are not as good as the Stock? Just asking. They have had great reviews

[MESSY1]

Can anyone tell me isn't username rraustin a member of audizine. Trying to find out if he ever installed the KW DDC's in his RS5. I searched but maybe he is under another username on this site.

[ToddCowles01]

Out of curiosity, how do you accurately set camber if you adjust up and down on the fly? Or is it you choose one optimum camber setting and deal with it?

[swoardrider]

Do you think the KW DDC's are not as good as the Stock? Just asking. They have had great reviews

Reviews claim the DDC's are essentially KW viarient 3's, which are a good performing kit. Not race level stuff, but has some race level features/design in them.

Out of curiosity, how do you accurately set camber if you adjust up and down on the fly? Or is it you choose one optimum camber setting and deal with it?

They are not like air bags, which adjust ride height on the fly. The height is adjusted like any other coilovers, by manually turning spanners. The shock valving is adjustable on the fly, via electronics. This changes the handling/ride of the car.

[swoardrider]

This is what you need to adjust ride height: http://www.kwsuspensions.com/kw/info/kw_hls/



Good read: http://www.europeancarweb.com/tech/1...ir_suspension/

[mxrz]

less durable parts that need rebuilds every 2 years.

Some of the best dampers available need periodic rebuilds.

[djnuge]

Great Info.