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    Thumbs up Crankshaft Position Sensor Location and Replacement B8 A4 Quattro 2.0T TFSI

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    Final update: The issue was a stretched timing chain and a maxed out tensioner. Got it replaced and everything has been running great for months. Since I did replace the sensors I'll leave the guide up. Hopefully it helps someone diagnose their issue.

    Second update: I finally took it to the dealer. They confirmed that my sensors were fine and the problem was my timing chain, it's stretched and the tensioner is at the maximum position. So, obviously I needed to replace the timing chain. The dealer quoted ~$1,800 and my mechanic (a local, family owned, imports shop) quoted me $900. I know this is a complex job and I've read some horror stories but I decided to go with my local mechanic (he hasn't failed me yet.) My car has been in their shop for over a week (they needed to order some special tools which delayed the process.) I will post a final update once I have the car back.

    Update: After I replaced the Crankshaft sensor the symptoms didn't go away and the check engine light persists. I then replaced the Camshaft sensor (highlighted in the first picture,) changed the oil, filter and air filter. No change… I'm going to double check the connections and wire harness but I'm beginning to think that my timing chain might be the problem (hope not.) If anyone has any insights I would love to hear them. I have read the code details: http://www.obd-codes.com/p0016

    Symptoms: Check engine light (error code P0016.) The car takes noticeably longer than usual to start. Usually it fires right up but now it cranks for a good few seconds. It's to the point that I wonder if it'll start the next time I try. While driving I don't notice anything and it hasn't stalled. *I haven't pushed the car past 4000rpm since the light came on and I try to keep it below 3, so that may be why I haven't noticed a significant change.

    This sensor is an easy fix once you know where it's located (finding it is the hard part.)
    My model year is 2009 but I find it better to go by B8 because 2009 seemed to apply to the last of the B7s also.

    What you need:
    1. T30 Torx socket with an extension (the sensor is in kind of an awkward area.) There's one screw holding it in place and it's on the top side.
    2. New Crankshaft Position Sensor. I ordered the Beck/Arnley from Advanced Auto Parts, Part#180-0558 (~$60.)
    - So far I've had a good experience with Beck/Arnley, seems like it's OEM or equivalent.
    3. Small flat head screwdriver, this will help you work the sensor out of it's home (once again, the awkward position makes it hard to get a good grip.)

    Instructions:
    Follow the photos, you just need to locate the sensor, unscrew the Torx screw, get the sensor out and unhook the connection. Installation is reverse of removal.
    The first two photos are for orientation.




    Here is the sensor. I've highlighted the screw (1) and where you need to apply pressure to unlatch the connection (2).
    The dot is where you place the pressure and the arrow is the direction of the pressure. You may need to wiggle it a bit for it to free up but you should here it *click* when you get it.
    Be careful, you obviously don't want to break it. In fact I removed the sensor before I tried to unlatch the connection because of the awkward position.


    This photo shows another angle of which tab to put the pressure on to unlatch.


    Here's the new sensor. I'm not sure about the torque spec on the screw but the original seemed to come free fairly easily, so I just went until it was snug.
    Don't leave it too loose though, you'll know when it gets tight.


    That's it, hope it helps someone. I know I had a hard time finding the sensor.
    Last edited by PhillyMor; 10-31-2014 at 08:07 PM. Reason: Final update
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    Can't believe no one thanked you for putting this up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zokissima View Post
    Can't believe no one thanked you for putting this up!
    Second that. Also to the OP, how many miles on your car when the chain and tensioner were replaced?

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    I believe I am having the same issue. I replaced both the cam and crank position sensor and nothing has helped unfortunately. When I started the car today, as soon as it idled down and was put in drive the engine started shaking as if it was completely off balance. My fear is that I will have to replace the timing chain.

    Thoughts?
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    This is a fantastic post, I hope someone can see this and gets a moment to reply. I drive a B8 A4 '09 just like this one. I'm dealing with the same exact symptoms, had the sensor replaced and the car seemed to only get worse. It still turns on but only after turning over for what feels like a good 4-5 seconds. and now when i drove it home it was intermittently bogging down to the point it felt like its ready to cut off.

    I am being recommended by 2 different mechanics to replace the crankshaft itself. However, after reading this and how it could be the timing chain/tensioner I am unsure how to proceed. I would take it to Audi if I wasn't so certain they'd find a way to certainly rape me and the information I am getting back from both these trusted mechanics is at least reliable enough for me to make a proper decision but before all that I wanna see what the Audi community has to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdavid View Post
    This is a fantastic post, I hope someone can see this and gets a moment to reply. I drive a B8 A4 '09 just like this one. I'm dealing with the same exact symptoms, had the sensor replaced and the car seemed to only get worse. It still turns on but only after turning over for what feels like a good 4-5 seconds. and now when i drove it home it was intermittently bogging down to the point it felt like its ready to cut off.

    I am being recommended by 2 different mechanics to replace the crankshaft itself. However, after reading this and how it could be the timing chain/tensioner I am unsure how to proceed. I would take it to Audi if I wasn't so certain they'd find a way to certainly rape me and the information I am getting back from both these trusted mechanics is at least reliable enough for me to make a proper decision but before all that I wanna see what the Audi community has to say.
    I had to do the timing chain and tensioner on my 09 at 113k. I knew it was going and was babying her up until the last moment.

    When I brought it in for service I had a cel and a code from the engine about the cps. I had replaced the top cps on two occasions since it was a super easy fix and I had mistakenly ordered 2.

    Anyway, my mechanic says I was as close to catastrophic failure as he had ever seen. Off two teeth on the timing chain about to cost me a complete engine or rebuild if I hadn't parked her for the week it took to get my car in the queue.

    Tread lightly and check the timing chain threads!

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    my sensor is on its way out and will be doing this DIY tomorrow, thanks for the write up
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    Reviving this because I am replacing my crankshaft sensor. Any idea what to do if the plastic butt casing around the sensor decides to stay in the hole? Asking for a friend...
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    Just wanted to say thanks for the write up...this location info is what I was looking for and is going to make my day a lot easier lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambda13 View Post
    Reviving this because I am replacing my crankshaft sensor. Any idea what to do if the plastic butt casing around the sensor decides to stay in the hole? Asking for a friend...
    Also wanted to say thanks.

    For anyone that might have bumped into the problem with the plastic housing the sensor breaking off and stuck inside; I got a 3/4" bolt about 8" long. Stuck it in the plastic housing and pulled back at an angle so the thread bites inside. After getting a few mm out, I got a joint plier to pull it out.

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    THANKS!!!!

    You are a time-saving lifeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Innisda1 View Post
    Also wanted to say thanks.

    For anyone that might have bumped into the problem with the plastic housing the sensor breaking off and stuck inside; I got a 3/4" bolt about 8" long. Stuck it in the plastic housing and pulled back at an angle so the thread bites inside. After getting a few mm out, I got a joint plier to pull it out.

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    Thanks so much to the OP, pictures were super helpful and I just changed out my CPS.
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    Hi, how did you know it was "on it's way out"? What symptoms did you get?

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