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    Teaser: B8.5 A4/A5 E85 (Metal Intake Manifold / Fifth Injector) vehicle

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    We're pretty happy Audi decided to make this engine E85 compatible.

    So far the gains look great.

    This is some of our stage 1 tuning vs stock. No other modifications.



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    this is 8.5 only? not for b8?
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    wheel? wow, that's crazy for just a tune and fuel.
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    That's awesome Arin. Too bad there aren't any E85 pumps near me .

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    What's the release time frame look like for this?

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    I'm definitely a noob with e85 fuel, I didn't even know b8.5 could take flexfuel
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    When can we expect this tune?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeperCar View Post
    I'm definitely a noob with e85 fuel, I didn't even know b8.5 could take flexfuel
    I believe it is only on the automatic's as my B8.5 14' model year 6spd manual does not have the metal intake manifold.
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    Ok Arin, when you are going to sell a manifold upgrade kit so us B8 drivers can add a nice metal manifold and 5th injector to our cars. I'm guessing this would also require a different fuel pump and other hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubek View Post
    Ok Arin, when you are going to sell a manifold upgrade kit so us B8 drivers can add a nice metal manifold and 5th injector to our cars. I'm guessing this would also require a different fuel pump and other hardware.
    this, I would love to be able to run e85
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Centaur View Post
    HFP Upgrade for B8 2.0 TFSI Engines coming?
    I don't see why they would if they don't sell a BT kit (for our application) that requires it. K04 runs perfectly fine without it.
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    So I have an automatic, I can use E85??? Guess I need to read my manual lol!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeperCar View Post
    So I have an automatic, I can use E85??? Guess I need to read my manual lol!!


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    Go check your intake manifold, Is it metal or plastic? Thats the easiest way to find out, Also check inside your fuel door. If you can run E85 it will list it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    We're pretty happy Audi decided to make this engine E85 compatible.

    So far the gains look great.

    This is some of our stage 1 tuning vs stock. No other modifications.



    Coming soon.
    Great news can't wait to see stage 2 #'s.. When can we expect this ?? I have been waiting since august of 2012 for a tune but my box code doesn't have 1.


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    Yes! Looking forward to it. Thanks APR.
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    Now this is really making me consider keeping this car! Awesome work APR, and approximately when is this going to be available for the public?
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    offtopic but.. when is the spring sale?
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    How about this, aluminum intake manifold on b8.5 but gas cap is a regular cap and not listed e85? Any thoughts?
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    ^^^^its not written on the gas cap, but on the inside of the gas door. Mine says it.
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    Hi
    My car is the A4 B8 2012 Quattro 2.0 TFSI E85 180hp (not B8.5) and i have the metal intake and the car can run on E85. Will this tune work on my car?
    I live in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    Hi
    My car is the A4 B8 2012 Quattro 2.0 TFSI E85 180hp (not B8.5) and i have the metal intake and the car can run on E85. Will this tune work on my car?
    I live in Europe.
    What engine code?

    BTW, our car is the 220 HP version. If you are starting out at 180 HP, you're going to have a massive gain! : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    What engine code?

    BTW, our car is the 220 HP version. If you are starting out at 180 HP, you're going to have a massive gain! : )
    Address 01: Engine (-----CFKA) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 R HW: 8K2 907 115 L
    Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H09 0005
    Revision: ECH09---

    Also I have Milltek Exhaust + HFC and a upgraded IC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calbee View Post
    offtopic but.. when is the spring sale?
    2nd that.
    Come on apr... Need a tune!

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    Is this wheel hp or to the crank?

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    Wait a second, if your manifold is aluminum then is it fully compatible to run E85 fuel without any modifications of any sort? I'm a noob in this area, I would have thought it would still have to be converted to run E85? I'm a bit confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calbee View Post
    offtopic but.. when is the spring sale?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry1847 View Post
    2nd that.
    Come on apr... Need a tune!

    Arin posted it across all the model line forums earlier today.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hookahmaster View Post
    Wait a second, if your manifold is aluminum then is it fully compatible to run E85 fuel without any modifications of any sort? I'm a noob in this area, I would have thought it would still have to be converted to run E85? I'm a bit confused
    Metal manifold cars have full factory E85 support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    We're pretty happy Audi decided to make this engine E85 compatible.

    So far the gains look great.

    This is some of our stage 1 tuning vs stock. No other modifications.



    Coming soon.
    I've been waiting on this for about a year! My avant is ready for stage 2 with APR intake and exhaust...!

    E85 is equivalent to 95 oct?




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    Quote Originally Posted by SleeperCar View Post
    I'm definitely a noob with e85 fuel, I didn't even know b8.5 could take flexfuel
    You really need to pay more attention to your fuel filling stickers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SleeperCar View Post
    So I have an automatic, I can use E85??? Guess I need to read my manual lol!!

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    Doesn't matter if it's an automatic or manual. Transmission layout has nothing to do with your fueling.

    Quote Originally Posted by hookahmaster View Post
    Wait a second, if your manifold is aluminum then is it fully compatible to run E85 fuel without any modifications of any sort? I'm a noob in this area, I would have thought it would still have to be converted to run E85? I'm a bit confused
    RTFM folks. You don't have to convert anything to run E85, the B8.5 is already set up to run it and switch on the fly to accommodate it software wise. Be advised though while you do get the power gain, YOU WILL LOSE ON FUEL MILEAGE! Expect to see a 70-80 mile drop in fuel consumption per tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroySico View Post
    I've been waiting on this for about a year! My avant is ready for stage 2 with APR intake and exhaust...!

    E85 is equivalent to 95 oct?




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    E85 is E85. The pump has to say E85 for it to be E85. Like this:



    The way the tune will work is as follows:

    You will be given a 91, a 93 and a 100 octane program. If you normally use 93, and later fill up with E40, E60, E70, E85, E100, Ewhatever, just keep driving. The ECU has a sensor that will read the Ethanol content and will begin blending different maps between our 93 and Ethanol program. If the content is better, you get more performance. : )

    I'll go into more details, full details, when we launch the software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewDude View Post
    RTFM folks. You don't have to convert anything to run E85, the B8.5 is already set up to run it and switch on the fly to accommodate it software wise. Be advised though while you do get the power gain, YOU WILL LOSE ON FUEL MILEAGE! Expect to see a 70-80 mile drop in fuel consumption per tank.
    Keep in mind this is not on all B8.5 vehicles. They need to be a Flex fuel vehicle, and if I'm not mistaken, only one engine code is, while the other isn't. I'll have full details at the launch.
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    Did you check if my 180hp ffv can use this tune?

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    Nice. I'd love to be able to run E85 in my B8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    E85 is E85. The pump has to say E85 for it to be E85. Like this:



    The way the tune will work is as follows:

    You will be given a 91, a 93 and a 100 octane program. If you normally use 93, and later fill up with E40, E60, E70, E85, E100, Ewhatever, just keep driving. The ECU has a sensor that will read the Ethanol content and will begin blending different maps between our 93 and Ethanol program. If the content is better, you get more performance. : )

    I'll go into more details, full details, when we launch the software.
    Thanks man! I was just wondering if E85 has an official octane rating - I googled it and it seems there is consensus that E85 hovers around the equivalent of 100 octane unleaded, +/- a few pts.

    What is an ETA for this tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    Did you check if my 180hp ffv can use this tune?
    Yup! Looks like it's supported on CFKA, CPMA, CPMB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wabbit23 View Post
    So that means that at stage 1 the E85 B8.5 guys are gonna be putting out as much power as a k04?!?!


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    We'll just have to see how the K04 reacts with E85. : )
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