Mr. QuickFist: The 0-60 Thread

[mec]

So we are all pretty familiar with our sluggish 7.2 second 0-60mph stock time. Throughout my build I've wanted to check how much faster I was going by adding each piece, however, between my short shifter misalignment, the clutch slave poorly bled, an engine failure, and my methanol never working, I've never had a proper moment when I could do 0-60 at this car's fullest.

Well finally I replaced my boost manager plus, had a fantastic turnaround thanks to Eurodyne's quick shipping, My methanol is good to go, my engine is as healthy as ever,the clutch is fully bled, running some MT90 in my transmission, the shifter is aligned perfectly....so I guess I have no more excuses LETS DO THIS!

Well I went out and did a few runs. Pulled up to a flat empty road, parking brake on, music off, clutch in, first gear in, rev to 4k RPM, release the handbrake, instantly lift off the clutch....womp womp womp...forgot to remove traction...6.3 seconds...almost a full second better than stock....hmm that kind of performance isn't validated by the amount of sweat blood and tears that have gone into this car.

Take 2, parking brake on, music off, clutch in, first gear, rev to 4k, release brake...wait wait wait...traction control off....ok release brake lifto ff the clutch.....HOOOLY SHIIIIIITTTT look down quickly, 6000 RPM, quick shift to 2nd, wow 40mph never came on so fast, there goes 50....60...70....okkkk......6.1....hmm not terribly better.

Take 3...lets add more gas even when the clutch is dropped.... brake. music. clutch. first gear. traction. rev to 4k. yada yada. DROP THE CLUTCH FLOOR THE ACCELERATOR!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaa psh 7000 RPM, shift into 2nd, whole car rocks like the titanic hitting an iceberg, waaaaaaaaaaaapsh 80MPH whoa slow down cowboy.....5.5s 0-60...well it felt fast as shit....5.5 isn't crazy but alright...we're working on improvement

Take 4....lets check meth, get off the clutch even faster and go harder on the accelerator. brake yada yada.... rev to 4k, sidestep off the clutch.....floor the accelerator...wow....car did not bog....from 4k where I was revving it instantly just flew up from there....never dipped down, just went 4k to 7k in the blink of an eye...totally wasn't expecting that...miss the shift into second from my astonishment at what I would call a perfect launch. 0-60 inconclusive....

Take 5....well you get the gist...been seeing 5.6 to 5.7, not sure if I was heat soaked but I could not replicate that 5.5 number or that perfect launch....would have been perfect if I could, probably could have made it to 5.2 or 5.3.


Anyway thought you guys would enjoy a story of someone who is finally enjoying the performance of a build that took 2 years to complete.

If anyone else has some good stories or wants to share their 0-60 times for discussion feel free to do so!

-Martin

[jsandor91]

What were you using to measure 0-60??

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[mec]

What were you using to measure 0-60??

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the STE Performance Parameters Display. You set it to performance mode, and it automatically starts when you move. so I use the parking brake to keep it from starting while I am just revving the car up.

I'll try to get a video or two next time.

[jsandor91]

the STE Performance Parameters Display. You set it to performance mode, and it automatically starts when you move. so I use the parking brake to keep it from starting while I am just revving the car up.

I'll try to get a video or two next time.

I wonder if torque or vagcom would yield the same results

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[mec]

I wonder if torque or vagcom would yield the same results

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probably its just a timer. Jake@Jhm seems to think i can break into 4 second territory, I am hoping once I get better at launching and 1-2 shift I can get there

[seal66]

P3 gauge- 5.8 first run and 5.6 a little later in the year.

No new runs yet as I still waiting on the car from tuning

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[carguy138]

0-30mph times for a few faster cars

E92 M3 6m - 1.7
SRT-8 6a - 1.7
335i 8a - 1.8
G37 7a - 1.8
A4 8a - 1.8
A4 6m - 2.1


I have a Quattro b7 2.0t with 6mt and APR K04 S3 and here you go. This was using the torque app.

I'm sure a better driver could crack off better numbers because my 1-2 shift is fairly slow and I got a lot of wheel spin. Conditions: slightly uphill road, 28 degrees F, and about 200' above sea level. All four tires spun and left black marks for a good 15-20'. ESP off, hold revs to 3000 rpms, mash throttle and dump clutch at 5000 rpms. Only launch I have done since installing the K04, don't want to break anything.

0-10 MPH: 0.53 sec
0-20 MPH: 1.05 sec
0-30 MPH: 1.62 sec
0-40 MPH: 3.05 sec
0-50 MPH: 3.99 sec
0-60 MPH: 4.89 sec

60' 2.00 s @ 34.1 mph

[RoguesGambit]

Since I had my P3, did it twice but was on a slight incline with a car on my ass, so I didn't get the best launch

1st time was 6.25, 2nd was 6.18. Gonna find a relatively flat area to try it again, but definitely not a bad start

[drumnjuny]

damn y'all are fast as F. carguy - those are great numbers!! k04 is a great 0-30mph turbo.


GTX28 not so much haha. lets do 40-100 runs instead :P :P

[mec]

0-30mph times for a few faster cars

E92 M3 6m - 1.7
SRT-8 6a - 1.7
335i 8a - 1.8
G37 7a - 1.8
A4 8a - 1.8
A4 6m - 2.1


I have a Quattro b7 2.0t with 6mt and APR K04 S3 and here you go. This was using the torque app.

I'm sure a better driver could crack off better numbers because my 1-2 shift is fairly slow and I got a lot of wheel spin. Conditions: slightly uphill road, 28 degrees F, and about 200' above sea level. All four tires spun and left black marks for a good 15-20'. ESP off, hold revs to 3000 rpms, mash throttle and dump clutch at 5000 rpms. Only launch I have done since installing the K04, don't want to break anything.

0-10 MPH: 0.53 sec
0-20 MPH: 1.05 sec
0-30 MPH: 1.62 sec
0-40 MPH: 3.05 sec
0-50 MPH: 3.99 sec
0-60 MPH: 4.89 sec

60' 2.00 s @ 34.1 mph

wow that is really impressive...sub 5 seconds on a k04! Do you have any good tips for launching?

[FraggyA4]

wow that is really impressive...sub 5 seconds on a k04! Do you have any good tips for launching?

I wonder what I can expect from the Frankenturbo since it's a hybrid K04. This makes me excited to do runs a year or more from now lol.

[SPB.2127]

0-30mph times for a few faster cars

E92 M3 6m - 1.7
SRT-8 6a - 1.7
335i 8a - 1.8
G37 7a - 1.8
A4 8a - 1.8
A4 6m - 2.1


I have a Quattro b7 2.0t with 6mt and APR K04 S3 and here you go. This was using the torque app.

I'm sure a better driver could crack off better numbers because my 1-2 shift is fairly slow and I got a lot of wheel spin. Conditions: slightly uphill road, 28 degrees F, and about 200' above sea level. All four tires spun and left black marks for a good 15-20'. ESP off, hold revs to 3000 rpms, mash throttle and dump clutch at 5000 rpms. Only launch I have done since installing the K04, don't want to break anything.

0-10 MPH: 0.53 sec
0-20 MPH: 1.05 sec
0-30 MPH: 1.62 sec
0-40 MPH: 3.05 sec
0-50 MPH: 3.99 sec
0-60 MPH: 4.89 sec

60' 2.00 s @ 34.1 mph

What clutch are you running?

[drumnjuny]

also what tires do you have lol. martin's on snow tires still...

[carguy138]

OEM clutch and bridgestone BlizzakWS70 snow tires. I imagine with my summers (pilot supersports) and hot asphalt it would be much harder to break free and probably just cause the clutch to slip. My run was done on the 93 APR fyi.

Best advice I can give is that you need to get wheelspin. On that launch the RPMs never dropped below 4.5/5k.

[aluthman]

I really want to try launching my car, but it's probably a bad idea to do it on a bad tranny mount (at least that's what I think it is). As soon as I get my box from JHM though, it should be on in a manner resembling a popular 1980s video game starring a large gorilla.

[drumnjuny]

if you launch and don't get wheelspin all that force from the motor is put directly into your trans and clutch until the motor dies. so yeah, wheel spin would be a good idea haha...

[Jake@JHM]

Ebrake!?

Remember, you ideally want to do this on a road with ZERO incline and ZERO decline. If you are going to roll when not using an Ebrake you are definitely not on a road worth testing any performance data.

Even 1% incline can have a big negative affect on acceleration data.


However, glad to hear the JHM Clutch/flywheel setup is doing its job!

[SPB.2127]

OEM clutch and bridgestone BlizzakWS70 snow tires. I imagine with my summers (pilot supersports) and hot asphalt it would be much harder to break free and probably just cause the clutch to slip. My run was done on the 93 APR fyi.

Best advice I can give is that you need to get wheelspin. On that launch the RPMs never dropped below 4.5/5k.

Im going to be purchasing a stage 3 south bend clutch soon. Maybe ill try blowing up my clutch with a crazy launch like that before I swap it.

[Jake@JHM]

if you launch and don't get wheelspin all that force from the motor is put directly into your trans and clutch until the motor dies. so yeah, wheel spin would be a good idea haha...

Slight wheel spin = good

However,

Wheel hop = broken axles

lol

[Jake@JHM]

Im going to be purchasing a stage 3 south bend clutch soon. Maybe ill try blowing up my clutch with a crazy launch like that before I swap it.

Save your time and money:

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...0t-p-1257.html

[FraggyA4]

Save your time and money:

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...0t-p-1257.html

You are a whore!

[Jake@JHM]

You are a whore!

If being a whore is what it takes for people to have quality parts, I am game

[FraggyA4]

If being a whore is what it takes for people to have quality parts, I am game

I will say the parts are high end, carry on wench

[SPB.2127]

Save your time and money:

http://jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalo...0t-p-1257.html

I was interested in that kit..but I can get the south bend kit w/flywheel from a friend for less actually

[drumnjuny]

hes right though. southbend is a waste compared to JHM's kit

[Jake@JHM]

I was interested in that kit..but I can get the south bend kit w/flywheel from a friend for less actually

It may be for less, but it won't be as awesome. Our Stage 1 can handle more power than most 2.0Ts are producing and features 100% OEM drive-ability. It truly is the best of both worlds. I Have well over 100 launches on my B7 and around 50 1/4 mile passes and my clutch setup hasn't even flinched.

[Rastboostin]

It may be for less, but it won't be as awesome. Our Stage 1 can handle more power than most 2.0Ts are producing and features 100% OEM drive-ability. It truly is the best of both worlds. I Have well over 100 launches on my B7 and around 50 1/4 mile passes and my clutch setup hasn't even flinched.

I have the Stage 3 DXD Daily clutch with the 12lb flywheel and its pretty much exactly OEM. Only difference is that my revs whip up and drop down faster so I have to adjust my shifting

[vce1232000]

I wonder what I can expect from the Frankenturbo since it's a hybrid K04.

Bent Rods ......lol... Only Jokin...... Wanna see it can do also...

[FraggyA4]

Bent Rods ......lol... Only Jokin...... Wanna see it can do also...

I hope my IE rods don't bend, if they do then fuck that's an awesome turbo.

[Jake@JHM]

I hope my IE rods don't bend, if they do then fuck that's an awesome turbo.

Or really bad tuning

[FraggyA4]

Still aren't the drop ins rated for like 700hp

[RoguesGambit]

It may be for less, but it won't be as awesome. Our Stage 1 can handle more power than most 2.0Ts are producing and features 100% OEM drive-ability. It truly is the best of both worlds. I Have well over 100 launches on my B7 and around 50 1/4 mile passes and my clutch setup hasn't even flinched.

How's much different is stage 3?

[Jake@JHM]

How's much different is stage 3?

In price or feel?

Price is an additional $250 and the feel won't really be noticeable in regards to drive-ability. However, the stage three will be able to take a ton more abuse than the stage 1 (which seems like a crazy amount based on how much I abuse my stage 1).

Jake

[mec]

Ebrake!?

Remember, you ideally want to do this on a road with ZERO incline and ZERO decline. If you are going to roll when not using an Ebrake you are definitely not on a road worth testing any performance data.

Even 1% incline can have a big negative affect on acceleration data.


However, glad to hear the JHM Clutch/flywheel setup is doing its job!

just wanted to be sure the car didnt move while i revved.

Im going to be purchasing a stage 3 south bend clutch soon. Maybe ill try blowing up my clutch with a crazy launch like that before I swap it.

I was interested in that kit..but I can get the south bend kit w/flywheel from a friend for less actually

orrr you can get the next best thing to a jhm setup. a clutch masters flywheel. singlemass of course, a custom rs4 pressure plate that retains the SAC so you will get perfect engagement everytime, no adjustment, and an rs4 clutcg disk...all for $500

[RoguesGambit]

In price or feel?

Price is an additional $250 and the feel won't really be noticeable in regards to drive-ability. However, the stage three will be able to take a ton more abuse than the stage 1 (which seems like a crazy amount based on how much I abuse my stage 1).

Jake

So any reason I shouldn't just jump into 3 or no

[Jake@JHM]

So any reason I shouldn't just jump into 3 or no

Well, if you plan on going full on BT and really beating on your car, then nope!

[RoguesGambit]

Well, if you plan on going full on BT and really beating on your car, then nope!

Might as well go 3 anyway, always prefer to reinforce my stuff

[Jake@JHM]

Might as well go 3 anyway, always prefer to reinforce my stuff

Good deal!

[jsandor91]

i really wanna try to do a 0-60 but i'm afraid my stock clutch will explode. can we get some 20-80 or 40-100 data in here

[RoguesGambit]

i really wanna try to do a 0-60 but i'm afraid my stock clutch will explode. can we get some 20-80 or 40-100 data in here

Get a Stage 3/4 JHM clutch man, problem solved