Need advice on pulled fenders wheel fitment

[xRONINx]

So i have been searching the threads and learned a lot but still want to run some thoughts by someone with experience with pulled fenders and wheel fitments. I have attempted to pm a few AZer's with no answer. So if you have experience with this and willing to help me out you can pm me or responded to thread.

So my situation is next week i am doing some body work on my car, including pulling my fenders. So this has opened a lot of new wheel options for me. I have a couple of rims picked out that I am looking at but my big 2 right now is: one set is 18x9 et22 or 50 which I don't like because it takes the majority of the lip away, and 18x10 et15. The second set is 18x9 et25 35. I like the first set better but afraid the et is to low. The second set seems like it shouldn't be a problem but if someone who has experience with pulled fenders would like to help me out. it would be greatly appreciated!

Thank You

[Aggv]

I have no first hand experience, but i believe you want to stay around 20-35 range for offset. It's going to depend on how far you pull out the fenders, and the size of the tires.

My personal opinion for whatever it's worth, pull the fenders for wide tires, not wide wheels. Function > form.

[getslideways]

maybe this will help. This is from forum member LightSwitch's old setup. He has since switched to an 18x8.5 setup all around. I am pretty sure the fenders are just rolled but not pulled:

Front:
18x8.5 ET30
Falken 512 215/40/18

Rear:
18x10 ET25
Falken 512 225/40/18





Hope this helps, but it would seem an 18x10 et15 would really be hanging way out there. I am not sure what your definition of pulling is, but i think its going to take more than what you would be able to accomplish with a fender rolling tool.

[xRONINx]

Thanks guys for the help thus far. To clarify i am doing a pretty aggressive pull some thing like what TheyCallMeAri has done. I'm not really into the staggered look but those do give me a good idea of how far I can expect the rim to poke on factory.

@Aggv I completely Agree that's why I thought the 9 width is a good middle ground. Like I said I intend pulling a significant amount. I think the 9 width will give me option of a good lip or greater concavity and allow me to run a wide tire. I do not want to run super stretched tires, just not my personal preference. If I was on air and could switch my ride height easily then I would consider it, just not piratical for me right now. Do you think I can pull of the et 22 then?

[cinesnow]

I run 18 x 10.5 et 35 with a 10mm spacer. 265's are as far as the stock fenders could go.

[Aggv]

Too many variable to say one way or another; your tire choice will have the largest effect on what will fit and what wont. Not all tires are the same size either, which is to say one manufacturer's 245 may be a bit wider than another manufacturer's 245.

Do the body work, test fit (put some wheels on, measure everything), then buy wheels/tires.

[xRONINx]

@cinesnow thanks for the input, those rims look good! I was considering those but I guess not anymore, I like to be a little different that's why I sold the VMR's.

@Yeah I have heard that tire run wider depending of manufacturer. I have always like falken and if I'm not mistaken they run slightly wider from what i remember. I know the tire is going to be trial and error, but i figured I might be able to get a rim them work on the tire. i think the 9 width is more than conservative enough. the thing I'm not certain on is the et22 on a 9 width rim. would that be an issue with clearing brakes? if have to run a spacer to clear brakes then I'm going to be getting an extremely low offset.

[Aggv]

The low offset should push the wheels out far enough to clear the brakes, keep in mind the S4 HP2 calipers are a bit thicker than the average brake

[xRONINx]

Yeah that's the only thing that is really bothering me about them. The rims are Konig ssm's. here are some pics if that helps. the shape of the spokes looks like it would help it clear the brakes but could be wrong?

[getslideways]

The concave shape, addition of a lip, or depth of the spoke design can all play a role on clearance. As Aggv said, there are too many variables to give a 100% guarantee that one particular size and offset will work 100% of the time across all designs.

You could have two wheels of the same size and offset, but have only one of them clear the brakes due to the spoke design and placement. Also as Aggv pointed out, the stock front brakes are pretty wide, so they can pose a problem when it comes to wheel selection.

[xRONINx]

Thanks for the help guys. So it looks like unless someone has ran this same wheel and size there is no way of knowing (which I'm pretty sure there isn't, that's why I like them). All the other rims I am considering i have seen ran on a B5 S4 so I know they work other than these. I'm not sold on them but they are different. They are Yoshihara Champions.

they are the second set i mentioned 18x9 et35 they also make it in a et25 in a 5x114 that i could make work if that offset would be better.

So i can either see i can get a Konig in to test fit or the Champions with the et35 should allow me to run spacers to get whatever offset works best. where as with the Konigs i can not manage to put more than a few mm spacer in there before it to far off the recomended offset.

Is this all correct or can it handle a lower offset, provide everything clears?

[getslideways]

what are you using to adapt the wheels to the Audi's 5x112 bolt pattern? Wobble bolts?

[Aggv]

You could always get wheels custom made if you have the $$$ (HRE, iForged, etc...)

[xRONINx]

If I get a 5x114 I will probably run 14m-12m studs. Sometimes you have to drill the a few mm wider to run wobble bolts so not really liking that option.

@Aggv That will be what I do sometime down the road. I would love to do that but being in college I have money but not enough to drop 3-5 k on a set of rims.