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    Senior Member Three Rings JRutter's Avatar
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    Do TT seats swap right in?

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    Short answer: not quite, but it is doable.

    Last November I got interested in the possibility of swapping seats to get something with better support for track days, better materials, and some style points. The seats in the Mk2 TT were attractive because, while not Recaros, they are a drop-in mechanical fit and are pretty sexy. I have ridden in an R8 that had what looked to be identical seats. I have heard that S4 Recaros fit as well, but I was more sure about the TTs.

    I got disappointed by a local wrecker's set that ended up having water damage and potential mold issues. The rear seats had black spots on the alcantara, so I wasn't willing to risk it.



    (They later sold for full asking price, I was told.) So I widened the search and found a pair halfway across the country.




    Unfortunately, they cut the wiring harness. At least they included the plugs and I requested the sockets from the car side to help figure out the wiring. There was some bolster wear, but I found a product called "Black Leather Jacket" that promised to be easy to use and capable of hiding it. I was pleasantly surprised by the results.




    The first hurdle was the fact that the plugs in the A3 are completely different. I wanted to be able to swap back to my old seats or sell them for maximum value, so I ended up buying a set of new plugs from the dealer. The contact ends of the TT wiring do not fit these plugs, so I got repair wires to splice onto the TT seat harness. I paid for a day of access to the audi tech. lit. site and downloaded schematics for the TT and A3 and spent a day identifying then matching up the wire colors and pins. Here is what I came up with.




    I took a few quick measurements of the inside edges of the bolsters and found the TT to be about 1" narrower on both the bottom and back as well as about 1" longer front to back on the seat bottom. The bolsters are steeper angled, so this wasn't a snugger fit for me, just more supportive when you contact the edges. The alcantara is also really grippy.

    The nasty surprise came when I installed the passenger seat and got air bag codes and inactive passenger bag. Turns out the wrecker removed and sold the J706 occupancy sensor control module from the bottom of the seat and I didn't realize it. They sent me an A3 seat bottom with intact sensor to swap. Since there were stickers saying not to unplug them, I took it out as a unit and after much effort got it into the TT seat without completely stripping the cover.




    It was exactly the same as the TT sensor pad, so it fit ok after some wrangling in tight spaces. Here is the one from the TT seat:



    Note that when unplugging the airbag portion of the harness, the battery is supposed to be disconnected and you should touch the striker on the door frame to discharge static electricity. There was still an adaptation to do in VAG COM to get the car to accept the new J706 unit, but after that, the codes cleared and the airbags are all active when appropriate, with full OEM functionality for child / adult.

    So here is the final result.




    Cheers!
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Das Ponto's Avatar
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    Beauty work man.
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    jr you are a baller man. damn, every time i turn a page your car changes. happy for ya. taking apart a seat is a royal PITA!

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    Senior Member Three Rings JRutter's Avatar
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    It's like remodeling: Love the location and the house is paid for, but a new kitchen would be nice!
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Saw this on vortex, looks great, good job

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    Is the seating position lower than in standard a3 seats?
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    Senior Member Three Rings JRutter's Avatar
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    Seat position feels about the same to me. I did have to lower my rear view mirror just a touch, so MAYBE a tad lower on driver's side. Passenger seat has always felt higher to me and still does. I like to have my seat lowered all the way down and the front tilted all the way up, if that matters.
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Das Ponto's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRutter View Post
    It's like remodeling: Love the location and the house is paid for, but a new kitchen would be nice!
    Ha that is awesome!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    looks real good

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Das Ponto's Avatar
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    Senior Member Three Rings JRutter's Avatar
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    The next adventure will be "Does TT front suspension swap right in?" So far it looks similar to the seats: yes, but not without lots of homework...
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    Q7 . A3 3.2 Quattro and way too many cars in the garage.
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    There is a great thread on vortex in the mk6 R section that a guy shows all the difference between the TT stuff and the Passat stuff , something about the TT added + caster I think I could be wrong and moved the wheel farther out , but the whole knuckle and the lower arm droped some good weight since they are forged . you can do just the lower passet arm wich is forged Alum and that is a bolt in swap over the A3 steel arm .

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    Senior Member Three Rings JRutter's Avatar
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    I'm halfway there now: TT control arm and ball joint with Passat spindle. So I've got some extra camber and the benefits of lighter weight. I would like to lower the car a bit more without killing the geometry / performance and the TT drop spindles should help. The question for me now is how to manage the extra track width with regards to the axles, since the stock CV joints will be stretched out to the max if I add the TT spindles into the mix. Supposedly, Tyrol has plans for a spacer to mount between the front diff and the axles shafts.
    still no turbo - other mods here

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    nice

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