Do all 2.0 litre engines have oil consumption problems?

[boatr]

Do all 2.0 T engines have excessive oil consumption problems? What years are OK , I'm looking for 2006-2008 to purchase.

[seal66]

Honestly it is a hit and miss type of thing.

This is for the 2.0T FSI motor-

I had a 2005.5 Audi B7 A4 that had no oil consumption issues and my current 2008 B7 A4 has had no issues either. There are people that have oil consumption issues. The newer 2.0TFSI has far as I know don't have the issue.

[twstdbyboost]

My 2005.5 A4 doesn't have any oil consumption issues. Guess I got lucky!

[V2Rider]

I bought my 2007 with 44k on it, went through oil pretty quick.

NOW after changing over to Amsoil, and running a bottle of Marvel Mystery Oil for 300 miles before changing it, I'm at 1612 miles and my oil is at the max mark as we speak. Coincidence, or quality of oil. I don't really know. But I'm happy. :)

[Der Konig]

2006 with zero consumption issues. Run Motul specific

[V2Rider]

Just updating, 2000 miles into it, oil at full mark tonight. Sticking to Amsoil 5w40 in this engine.......

[m3fuz]

2007 A4 Avant with 75k miles (purchased with 58k miles) and am adding a quart or so every ~1250-1500 miles. I'm hoping this doesn't get worse.

[V2Rider]

My oil is finally down 1/4 quart, 2400 miles into this. I can live with that, even if 1 quart between oil changes is what I'm at now, fine by me.

[Prof]

I am the original owner of a 2009 A4 B8 Prestige Trim, manual transmission. In June 2012 I had a Stage 1 oil consumption repair completed. The engine was consuming about 1 quart oil per 2500 miles but my dealer conducted the Stage 1 under warranty. At 7500 mile intervals I change the oil myself using Mobil 1 0W40 synthetic and the oil level may go down at most 1/2 quart during the interval. So I would not consume 1 quart per 10000 miles. It seems that these engines have a hit or miss situation. I do a good amount of spirited driving on secondary roads and I have very good power. This 5 year old car is a dream. I spend the time and money maintaining the A4 myself or by using a certified VW/Audi mechanic at an independent shop that I have known for 30 years. This is the best automobile that I have had since my first new car (1968 VW Bug).

[Seerlah]

Turbocharged engines tend to eat more oil that other vehicles. But with that being said, oil consumption is a vehicle issue and not particular to the 2.0 VAG. Our old family beater Saturn SL2 used to require like 2 quarts every 2 weeks. We just kept cheap crap in the trunk and filled periodically.

Just updating, 2000 miles into it, oil at full mark tonight. Sticking to Amsoil 5w40 in this engine.......

Great motor oil. I used to run Euro blend 5w40 in the summer and signature series 0w30 in the winter. After a while it got too rich for my blood. Switched to Rotella T6 and been running that for like 2 years now. Amsoil tranny fluid, rear diff fluid, and will swap in the PS fluid I have been lazy on swapping out. Great fluids.

[V2Rider]

Turbocharged engines tend to eat more oil that other vehicles. But with that being said, oil consumption is a vehicle issue and not particular to the 2.0 VAG. Our old family beater Saturn SL2 used to require like 2 quarts every 2 weeks. We just kept cheap crap in the trunk and filled periodically.



Great motor oil. I used to run Euro blend 5w40 in the summer and signature series 0w30 in the winter. After a while it got too rich for my blood. Switched to Rotella T6 and been running that for like 2 years now. Amsoil tranny fluid, rear diff fluid, and will swap in the PS fluid I have been lazy on swapping out. Great fluids.

I've been running Amsoil in everything for years now, it is a little spendy, but well worth it IMO. As of now, Brake fluid, power steering, and crank case all swapped with amsoil. I thought about using it in my transmission, but they are so picky, I just run the ZF8. My car has 47*** miles, so the diff will get switched hear soon as well to Amsoil.

[allstock]

Do all 2.0 T engines have excessive oil consumption problems? What years are OK , I'm looking for 2006-2008 to purchase.

A true word of advice and I know it's gonna sound too simple. Check the exhaust pipes the dirtier they are the more consumption. Take a close look and to make sure they haven't been scrubbed. It's still difficult to completely scrub the build up off. Another tell tale sign even better is after you've test driven it, park with the engine still running open the door and give it some serious revs. Wait about 30 seconds to a minute between throttling. This has to be done in the proper wind and sunlight conditions. Bring a friend and have him/her watch the exhaust or you watch as he/she does the throttling. You will be able to black exhaust exiting the tailpipes literally. Even a little is bad. Keep trying the method and you'll get an idea HOW bad. And screw whatever salesperson gives you an attitude during this. Also, if you have access to a hand scanner bring it with you and use it. It'll be worth it totally. Some hand scanners take a bit of time and you might have to go through each control module to get any codes that might be stored. And do this after the drive because they can be erased daily by the dealer. Don't bring this up until the end of the test drive. Even better to have a girlfriend keep it in her purse. Act like you know what you're doing, learn how to use the scanner. You can buy one for less than 200 bucks from companies like ecstuning. Take any codes and go back home and Google them n come here with them. This will give you buying leverage and you'll get an idea of what you're getting into. If the salesman/seller objects move on. Their a ton of these cars being sold. Take your time! How do I know, cuz I've been through all this before. The method works. If you find a decent one chances are there's gonna be some work needed regardless. This'll help narrow things down!

[Planespotting]

I have a 2008 and it had it's motor replaced completely by Audi for consumption issues around 56,000 miles. I am the second owner and this was done by the PO so I do not have a good indication on how much she was consuming. New motor and I am 1-2k away from the next scheduled oil change without consumption issues.

[Kid Red]

I have never had to top off between 7500 oil changes. No oil issues for me. However, my indy mechanic had an A4, not sure the year, and he sold it because he burned through oil like crazy.

Really is a hit or miss I guess.

[chris@fifteen52]

I have a 2005.5 2.0t with 202k miles and never had to add oil. Always used Mobil 1 0/40.

[1Topcat]

I don't seem to see too much on this issue, a search here only yielded 5 resulting threads. I am one of the ones affected. Here is some info of which cars are affected.

September 28, 2014 — It's normal for a car to use oil, but owners of the Audi A4, A5 and Q5 say their oil consumption has been far from normal. Now Audi and Volkswagen have agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit about that very subject.

The lawsuit alleges about 126,000 Audi vehicles have defects in the 2.0L turbocharged engines that caused the vehicles to guzzle oil. The affected vehicles are the 2009-2010 Audi A4 and Audi A5, and the 2011 Audi A4, Audi A5, and Audi Q5 with the engine code of CAEB.

Audi owners--including owners of model years not named in the lawsuit--complain their cars drink oil at rates no car should.


"I only owned the car a week prior to break down. Audi dealer in PA fixed the car, and it needed a quart of oil to get home 800 miles. the car drank oil, 1 qt per 1000 miles. Audi told me "that's how they are" and it was disturbing that it always needed oil. This is THE WORST CAR I HAVE EVER OWNED!!!" - 2009 Audi A4 owner, Ventura, California


"The Audi/VW 2.0T engine needs to be recalled now for excessive oil consumption. The first complaint is that per their spec, an owner can use 8 quarts of oil between the recommended oil changes (do the math). No way should any car manufacturer be legally allowed to say that 1 quart per 1000 mi (or 600 mi per my manual) is normal for a 2009 car with moderate mileage." - 2009 Audi A4 owner, Tampa, Florida

Although Audi agreed to settle the case, the judge said the automaker raised important defenses, including:
• All cars use oil and any actual oil consumption issues have been disclosed in the vehicles’ owner’s manuals.
• The engine warning light comes on in advance to warn the oil is running low, so plaintiffs would have a tough time showing the alleged defect is a safety issue.
• Oil consumption is a maintenance issue, therefore plaintiffs cannot establish an actionable defect exists.

Under the settlement agreement, current owners or lessees who have not already paid to have repairs made will be entitled to a replacement of the crankcase pressure regulating valve, front crankshaft seal and front crankshaft bolt. Additionally, the engine control module software will be updated to match the new part(s).

The agreement also gives owners and lessees an extended warranty of 4 years/50,000 miles to 8 years/80,000 miles (whichever occurs first) to cover any repair needed to correct excessive engine oil consumption.

Audi will also reimburse any affected owners of the 2009-2011 Audi A4, Audi A5 and the 2011 Audi Q5 for parts and labor on any previous repairs made for oil consumption problems.

Additionally, the settlement provides attorneys' fees of $2.3 million and expenses of $100,000, plus $2,500 to each of the five lead plaintiffs.

The Audi oil consumption lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court of the Central District of California - Ali Asghari, et al. v. Volkswagen Group of America Inc, et al.

[1Topcat]

Additionally, a letter from the Settlement Administrator will be coming out Jan 28, 2015 to all registered owners of those model years affected. That's 126,000 engines potentially affected. That's a big deal and they will cover the fix with the 2 stages that I assume most of you are aware of. So, I ask, is this a well know issue? I realize I am bringing up a 8 month old thread, but it seemed the logical one to revive the issue.

I have a 2010 A5 and it gobbles a quart every 291 miles or so. It's really neat, I don't have to do oil changes.

[boomtime]

This is the way class actions work.
The 5 lead plaintiffs get $2,500 each and the extended warranty with the work the dealer should have already done for free.
All the other owners who respond will get the latter, basically the warranty work they were always entitled to.
The lawyers get 2.3 million and 100k for food, fuel, hotels with room service and some fine threads.


I have a 2013 Q5 now with 50k hard driven miles on it. The car has never used a drop of oil in all those miles and sometimes I beat on the car. Even now with a tune boosting to 22+ psi the car still has not consumed ANY oil.

If you have a 2015 that gobbles oil, take it back or trade it, thats just not right.

[sfl_A4]

My 2006 (mfg 11/2005) B7 Quattro 2.0 6MT just rolled over 100k miles and no oil consumption at all. I change oil every 8-10k miles since new. I've never had to add oil between filter changes. I just checked yesterday, after 8k miles on current oil filter, and it's right at the top of the marker on the stick.

[ytirrag]

I have a 2006 2.0 with 102K on the clock with no consumption problems whatsoever.

[jwhite0254]

Yes absolutely have oil problems

[MoparFreak69]

After having our A4 for about a month now I can say that our 2.0T hasn't consumed any oil as of yet. I will keep an eye on it, but with 180K miles I am pretty sure the bugs have been worked out of it lol.

Btw its a 2005.5 with a BGP code engine.

[boomtime]

It seems to most affect model years 2009-2011.
It was likely a bad piston design, related to the ring lands... but im not a mechanic just a guess.

[Tcaff11]

I just got through this ordeal with the dealership I bought my car from. I was drinking about a quart every 700 miles or so and took it in with the paperwork from the class action lawsuit. I have a 2009 A4 with 76k on it. They did an oil consumption test (changed the oil and measured how much they put in, send you on your way until engine oil light comes on, you come back and they measure how much was consumed). They send the stats into Audi and they make the decision. In my case, Audi said yes I have excessive oil consumption. Start step 2. This involved changing the pistons and rings. Upon doing that, it became clear that my cams were scored. Send pictures and info to Audi and they said to replace the entire engine. All under the extended warranty from the class action lawsuit. Took 4 days. I hope that the problem is now resolved, but we'll see.

[ggong5150]

I have an 08 TT, just had the oil changed at 90k miles at the dealer and oil warning came on less than 3k miles in! Took a quart and a half.

[Charles.waite]

My 2006 2.0t (BPG engine code) had no oil consumption whatsoever between 75k miles and 90k miles. My 2008 2.0t (BWT engine code) blows through oil though, depending how I drive. If I hammer on it, and routinely get the revs above 4K rpms, a nice plume of blue smoke shoots out the back, and I can blow through a quart of oil in 1000 miles or less. If I drive like a grandma, then its more like 3000 miles per quart. And this is fairly consistent since I bought the car at 54k miles.

My 1.8t however consumes no oil, and hasn't since 2011, and I've put nearly 30k miles on it (now at 102k miles).

My point being, its never "normal" for an engine to consume significant amounts of oil. Its indicative of a fault in the engine. With a turbo engine it could be worn turbo bearings/seals or bad pistons rings, or faulty PCV components. The best way to deal with this is to rule out each system one by one, in order of cost. So test/replace PCV stuff first. If oil consumption remains, compression test engine. If results are fine, then look into the turbo, and see if there is significant shaft play or carbon buildup or oil around the wheels. If it makes sense financially, a new/rebuilt turbo could be installed to rule that out. Worst case is piston rings since you basically need to disassemble the engine completely and thats either insane labor costs or a ton of work wrenching.

[WesA3]

Ive got an 07 a3 with 55k. I always have to put a quart in, between oil changes.

[rjson]

I have a 2011 A5 with 47k, I bought it last May and it had 37k on it. In the last few months it started using . I took in to Audi and we did the 1k consumption test, during that time the gauge stayed at the Max.

I dropped it off yesterday for the next test, they called and I'm getting new pistons and I pick it up tomorrow with no charges. I'm truly impressed with how this was handled.

[Ollieman772000]

Have a 2008 A4 quattro that has been burning through oil. Just topped off my 2nd quart today and have another 2,000 miles before my next change is due. Ran 5W40 during the warmer months and switch to Mobil 1 0W40 for the winter to see if it runs better (definitely see a difference). I have no cold start issues with 0W40, and idles smoother, but I can't believe how much this car takes after 2 weeks of driving.
Thinking the PCV might have something to due with it. NO leaks or drips from the pan.

[boomtime]

My level indicator in mmi just started to tick a little lower, 2 lines from the top.
I know where its going!...in my charge pipes from the throttle body side and it collects under the J-Pipe (MAP) on the driver side of the intercooler.
Time for a pcv catch can now that im hitting 22 psi with stage 2.

[Charles.waite]

Have a 2008 A4 quattro that has been burning through oil. Just topped off my 2nd quart today and have another 2,000 miles before my next change is due. Ran 5W40 during the warmer months and switch to Mobil 1 0W40 for the winter to see if it runs better (definitely see a difference). I have no cold start issues with 0W40, and idles smoother, but I can't believe how much this car takes after 2 weeks of driving.
Thinking the PCV might have something to due with it. NO leaks or drips from the pan.

So I was away from te house last week (ironically at the dealer buying the wife a 2.0t q5) and I think the b7 got scurred and the oil light came on a mile from then dealer. Had to get gas so I stopped and picked up a quart of the best oil the gas station had, which was Mobil 1 european 5w30 and dumped it in.

Now I'm generally of the mind that small variations in oil weight, like going from 40 to 30 really isn't going to make a ton of difference, but ever since then I haven't seen the smoke show out the back when I go WOT above 4000rpms. Now that te b7 is mine (got the wife the q5 as I said before) I've been driving it pretty hard and it's been consistent with not visibly burning oil out the back when at full chat.

Anyway, it's due for an oil change relatively soon, I might switch it up from my normal Rotella T6 and try a 5w30 oil this time, maybe Mobil 1, maybe Castrol. I know it sounds stupid that a small change in oil weight makes the different between burning oil and not, but who knows....

[tater5387]

I have a 2005.5 A4 with 148,000 miles and change the oil every 5k and it uses about 3/4 to 1 quart during that time. And it's driven pretty hard. So it doesn't cause any issues. Seems to use less oil though since I went with Castrol 5W30 on the last oil change

[xbriansg36x]

2006 with zero consumption issues. Run Motul specific

Same here

[Charles.waite]

Where do you guys get Motul? Online? Or do some stores carry it in inventory?

[Brycej]

Amazon is the cheapest place I've been able to find Motul... even my mechanic gets it from there.

[Bonwit]

. . .The affected vehicles are the 2009-2010 Audi A4 and Audi A5, and the 2011 Audi A4, Audi A5, and Audi Q5 with the engine code of CAEB.

Audi owners--including owners of model years not named in the lawsuit--complain their cars drink oil at rates no car should. . .

This got my attention, as I'm considering a 2010 A3 Sportback with the T 2.0 engine. Interesting I don't see many complaints regarding the A3. Isn't this the same engine, or am I missing something here?

[Bonwit]

A true word of advice and I know it's gonna sound too simple. Check the exhaust pipes the dirtier they are the more consumption.

Just got back from looking at a 2010 w/ only 41,000 miles. Good looking car, but the tailpipes were really sooted up! Think I'll pass on this one. Thanks for the tip.

[vacsimile]

The transverse 2.0T in the TT and A3 (and VW's) haven't really seen any oil consumption issues. There are a couple here and there but it's not common by any means. The engine is slightly different from its longitudinal brother (found in A4's, A5's and Q5's). One of the differences is the pistons, which is the source of excessive oil consumption.

Gauging oil consumption by the soot in the exhaust pipes isn't entirely accurate. You might have just talked yourself out of a good deal... But then again I'd buy a GTI over an A3 any day.

[Charles.waite]

Yea sooty tailpipes mean little. My old b7 had very sooty tailpipes but it was running very well and had nearly zero oil consumption. It's more an artifact of Direct Injection than oil consumption.

[Gosser]

How would one go about checking for oil consumption issues when looking to purchase a 2.0? I am going this weekend to look at one, and I was going to check the tail pipes as a visual reference, but that doesnt appear accurate. I'll check the oil level, and see where the level is at in relation to its last documented oil change. But that too isnt very accurate. Is a bore scope the proper procedure?