OSRAM CBI (Cool Intense Blue) Finally Available!

[mike@hidconcept]

Hi AZ,

After seeing high demand for Osram CBI D1S and D2S bulbs, we finally have them available.

OSRAM CBI D1S bulb is 66144 CBI (5000K with up to 5500K color with up to 20% more light output) - $194.99


OSRAM CBI D2S bulb is 66240 CBI (5000K with up to 5500K color with up to 20% more light output) - $178.99


Use Free Shipping Coupon Code: FREEUS during checkout.

We also have one set of D2S CBI bulbs that we opened up for taking product photos.
If anyone wants, we are selling this set for just $160 shipped.
Contact us for more detail.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us via PM, email, or call us.

Thank You,

[NOTORIOUS VR]

I can't believe people still want ricer blue headlights... Too bad this fad won't die down especially considering having blue headlights lets you see less.

[dingo7]

Nothing beats the output of 4500k or 5000k white. I say just buy The retrofit source bulbs. I love mine and they are way less money

[Gaki]

I can't believe people still want ricer blue headlights... Too bad this fad won't die down especially considering having blue headlights lets you see less.

This.

Let them stay blind... probably the same people who ghetto tint all exterior lights on their cars Personally, I love my 4300k

[V1nny]

5000K is NOT blue.

[omeletduefromag]

I can't believe people still want ricer blue headlights... Too bad this fad won't die down especially considering having blue headlights lets you see less.

uhh...

they not blue, they output more lumens than factory and are about as white as they get.

[sqitis]

These bulbs are pretty kick ass and a little cheaper at TLS.

[julex]

As other said, 5k is pure white. 4300k factory is a bit yellowish in comparison. Either one is a good choice for most light output.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

uhh...

they not blue, they output more lumens than factory and are about as white as they get.

Uhh well maybe they should change their ricer advertising then... Because it clearly states cool blue with color up to 5500k. I find anything above 5000k to have a blueish hue from the light and not due to the reflector like most have when running OEM 4300k bulbs.

[SomeDayAS4]

i was running 6000k and they were pretty blue now i have 5000k so much better

[AudiSportB5S4]

I have a sick set of 12ks on my S4. All about that purple life

[V1nny]

Uhh well maybe they should change their ricer advertising then... Because it clearly states cool blue with color up to 5500k. I find anything above 5000k to have a blueish hue from the light and not due to the reflector like most have when running OEM 4300k bulbs.

Any xenon light will gradually change it's color temperature as it ages. Bulb that started as 5000k going to became 5500k in couple of years, and even change to 6500K for a few days before it burns out, if you keep using it to the end of its life.

[Gaki]

Any xenon light will gradually change it's color temperature as it ages. Bulb that started as 5000k going to became 5500k in couple of years, and even change to 6500K for a few days before it burns out, if you keep using it to the end of its life.

however, we are talking about getting 5500k from the get go, not in a couple years.

[AudiSportB5S4]

Lets drop some Kelvin scale in here, for the hell of it.

[GramCracker]

As other said, 5k is pure white. 4300k factory is a bit yellowish in comparison. Either one is a good choice for most light output.

What? I'm really not sure where you all learned your Kelvin light spectrum, but that is not true at all. 4,000k to 4,300k is pure white. The higher you go above 4,300k the more blue you get. Color temperatures over 5,000K are called cool colors (bluish white). Auto manufacturers go with 4,300k because that is true white light, if it wasn't why wouldn't they be using 5,000 or 5,500k instead?

[AudiSportB5S4]

Well, some auto manufacturers.. They definitely don't all use the same color temp bulbs. The S4's stock Xenons @ 4300k are definitely more yellow in comparison to say my Dad's Lexus which are more of a blue than even my 5k HID bulbs..

Xenons used back when our cars were just released versus the xenons used today in cars are most certainly a more blue color.. Then you go to LED which is even more so.. So I would think the 5k range is more what they think is representative of daylight which they say is easier on your eyes which is why they do it in the first place.

Also the Kelvin scales that are out there vary a bit. Look @ the one I posted against yours. Mine shows pure white around 5k.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

Well, some auto manufacturers.. They definitely don't all use the same color temp bulbs. The S4's stock Xenons @ 4300k are definitely more yellow in comparison to say my Dad's Lexus which are more of a blue than even my 5k HID bulbs..

I've never seen any yellow in my S4's head lights or any of my friends B5 S4 headlights with OEM HID's using 4300k bulbs, so I'd suggest changing your ballasts and/or bulbs is that is the case.

Other manufacturers might spec different color temps (but I doubt it), although I'm willing to bet the biggest difference is in the optics and possibly actual (not rated) output of the ballasts.

[AudiSportB5S4]

I didn't mean yellow was visible, I meant just more yellow in comparison to the higher Kelvin scaled bulbs.

Like, 5k would be more yellow than an actinic bulb over an aquarium.

Srsly though, 12k is what you want for that illest look. Can't have a dapper sticker on your car without purple lights.

[Gaki]

Srsly though, 12k is what you want for that illest look. Can't have a dapper sticker on your car without purple lights.

Illest, Fatlace, stanced, dapper, super kawaii ...

[mike@hidconcept]

Any xenon light will gradually change it's color temperature as it ages. Bulb that started as 5000k going to became 5500k in couple of years, and even change to 6500K for a few days before it burns out, if you keep using it to the end of its life.

Bingo! This is correct.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

I didn't mean yellow was visible, I meant just more yellow in comparison to the higher Kelvin scaled bulbs.

If the yellow isn't visible, how are they yellow lol

[mike@hidconcept]

however, we are talking about getting 5500k from the get go, not in a couple years.

I guess that our ad confused some of you.
By the spec sheet from Osram states that it's 5000K, up to 5500K.
As all HID bulbs do discolor to become bluer and whiter over usage, it means that it will go up to 5500K just like how stock 4300K gets close to 5000K after years of usage.

[mike@hidconcept]

Well, some auto manufacturers.. They definitely don't all use the same color temp bulbs. The S4's stock Xenons @ 4300k are definitely more yellow in comparison to say my Dad's Lexus which are more of a blue than even my 5k HID bulbs..

Xenons used back when our cars were just released versus the xenons used today in cars are most certainly a more blue color.. Then you go to LED which is even more so.. So I would think the 5k range is more what they think is representative of daylight which they say is easier on your eyes which is why they do it in the first place.

Also the Kelvin scales that are out there vary a bit. Look @ the one I posted against yours. Mine shows pure white around 5k.

In most cases, different lighting output and color can be given although the same xenon bulbs were used because of different projector used or different design of the reflector bowl. For example, Acura TL (say 2004-05) uses the same Philips 4300K bulb as Audi B5 S4 but the lighting result (color/brightness) differs between them depends on what angle you see the light from.

[james 408]

Similar to many posts above, here's what I've gathered when i did some research on it:

4k = yellowish and even if less bright, is recommended for low visibility conditions. most manufacturers use this range for stock
5k = whitish, even if technically brighter, it does not increase visibility for most drivers in most conditions. only perfectly clear nights can you argue it's an improvement, but it's regarded as worse for low visibility situations
anything over 6k is just for looks, and has no practical application.

[pipe7284]

I like my 6000k with 55W ballasts.

[julex]

What? I'm really not sure where you all learned your Kelvin light spectrum, but that is not true at all. 4,000k to 4,300k is pure white. The higher you go above 4,300k the more blue you get. Color temperatures over 5,000K are called cool colors (bluish white). Auto manufacturers go with 4,300k because that is true white light, if it wasn't why wouldn't they be using 5,000 or 5,500k instead?

I only state what I witnessed myself by using quality 4300 / 5000 bulbs in my own and spouse's car. I don't care for graphs, I am saying how they look to my eyes. Thanks for irrelevant graphs, or rather for proving my point. If you look at your second graph, it neatly explain why we see even very "blue" bulbs as only slightly blue due to our eyes color sensitivity... According to your graph even 4300K should be rather blue and it is not, it is perceived by a lot of people as slightly yellowish.

[jpurre]

I like my 6000k with 55W ballasts.

Me too.. and I wish I had cool graphs like these other guys.

[Fourplay]

I only state what I witnessed myself by using quality 4300 / 5000 bulbs in my own and spouse's car. I don't care for graphs, I am saying how they look to my eyes. Thanks for irrelevant graphs, or rather for proving my point. If you look at your second graph, it neatly explain why we see even very "blue" bulbs as only slightly blue due to our eyes color sensitivity... According to your graph even 4300K should be rather blue and it is not, it is perceived by a lot of people as slightly yellowish.

A 4300K bulb provides more lumens than a 5000K bulb (~3300 lumens vs. 2700 lumens). 5000K bulbs may look "brighter" because there is less yellow coloration in the light. However, 4300K bulbs provide the best illumination/most lumens.

[julex]

A 4300K bulb provides more lumens than a 5000K bulb (~3300 lumens vs. 2700 lumens). 5000K bulbs may look "brighter" because there is less yellow coloration in the light. However, 4300K bulbs provide the best illumination/most lumens.

CBI is rated 3500 lumens 5000K and there is no other light matching its output at 4300K except for Philips 85122 +... so while you might be right from theoretical point of view when on considers the same exact powered lightbulb in two different warmth, we are discussing here a specific product that has no close competition that can match it at its color warmth (and matches highest output 4300K)... If you throw it into overdrive on 50-55W ballast (I;ve been running it like that for two years now), you gain additional brightness and bring the color back to about 4300K. If you do that with 4300K bulb, it will definitely become halogen like yellow.

[GramCracker]

Me too.. and I wish I had cool graphs like these other guys.

I didn't choose the graph life, the graph life chose me.

A 4300K bulb provides more lumens than a 5000K bulb (~3300 lumens vs. 2700 lumens). 5000K bulbs may look "brighter" because there is less yellow coloration in the light. However, 4300K bulbs provide the best illumination/most lumens.

Thanks, that's what I was attempting to say and apparently couldn't verbalize it correctly.

[jpurre]

The stock fresnel lenses make a difference as well with how the light is projected. I changed to clear lenses with my 6000k retrofit as well as 50w ballast. A more powerful ballast make a difference as well.

[GramCracker]

The stock fresnel lenses make a difference as well with how the light is projected. I changed to clear lenses with my 6000k retrofit as well as 50w ballast. A more powerful ballast make a difference as well.

Try combining a better lens (Like the RSX lens from an Acura) with a 55W kit, that will blow your mind at how much light output you have.

[Fourplay]

so while you might be right from theoretical point of view.

As an engineer, that's all I'm worried about, lol.

Philips 85122+ is only rated at 3400 lumens at 4300K. Would be interesting to see what OSRAM could do with a 4300K bulb, but I guess people don't like the yellowish color, despite it being better for illumination.

[philthyphil]

As an engineer, that's all I'm worried about, lol.

Philips 85122+ is only rated at 3400 lumens at 4300K. Would be interesting to see what OSRAM could do with a 4300K bulb, but I guess people don't like the yellowish color, despite it being better for illumination.

They already make one in 4200K, it's called the Xenarc Nightbreaker.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...l#.UuGC-vbn-iA

[Fourplay]

They already make one in 4200K, it's called the Xenarc Nightbreaker.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...l#.UuGC-vbn-iA

There you go then. That's the highest lumen output bulb you can get.

[julex]

There you go then. That's the highest lumen output bulb you can get.

Schweet, I know what I am buying soon

Edit: All lies actually since this bulbs color temp is "up to 4350K" which was proven by users to be close to halogen ~ 3500k once burned in... This immediately disqualified it at least for my purposes of overdriving it to 50-55w even further). Even per OSRAM its output is the same 3200 lumens.

Comparison matrix:

http://www.osram.com/appsinfo/pdc/co...&1390341679460

OSRAM rates the output at the same 3200lumens as their OEM style bulb.

[Fourplay]

Schweet, I know what I am buying soon

Edit: All lies actually since this bulbs color temp is "up to 4350K" which was proven by users to be close to halogen ~ 3500k once burned in... This immediately disqualified it at least for my purposes of overdriving it to 50-55w even further). Even per OSRAM its output is the same 3200 lumens.

Comparison matrix:

http://www.osram.com/appsinfo/pdc/co...&1390341679460

OSRAM rates the output at the same 3200lumens as their OEM style bulb.

Boo. Someone needs to make a true 4300K bulb with the latest technology. 3700+ lumens would be amazing.

[Doubleredrolex]

The chart that gramcracker posted is totally incorrect. The first chart was very accurate. 4300k is not pure white. 5500k is pure white and about the same as the pure white emitted by new LED headlights. This is why things are changing and manufacturers are offering these new bulbs because they are closer to LED color output which is actually pure white. 4300k was all that was available when his lights came out 15 years ago. It's not that it was the "perfect" color, it's just that was what was available and yes it was better than the 3200k or whatever halogen lights were. You don't actually get into that ricer blue color until you get well over 6000k. 4300k is actually still in the yellow spectrum.

[RS6Tuner]

I Have xenarc nightbreakers and RTX clear lens in fresh new housings on my Rs4. Output is very good and makes fast night driving much more safe.

I was surprised how bad the original reflectors was. Much of the chrome coating gone with just the copper base remaining.

Have been looking into high output led main beams next.

[NOTORIOUS VR]

I Have xenarc nightbreakers

I put the Nightbreakers in my A8, and was very surprised of the difference compared to the bulbs that were in there. But I do not know how old they were. Unfortunately I was unable to open/clean my lenses so I'm sure I am still missing some output, but the lights in the A8 are very expensive and complicated and I didn't want to have to buy new ones.