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    DIY: Clutch Master Cylinder replacement

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    Audi A4 clutch Master cylinder removal.


    **DISCLAIMER** This article will tell you how I replaced the clutch master cylinder on my car. I do not assume any responsibility for accuracy or applicability to your situation. Read these instructions carefully and take a close look at an Audi repair manual before attempting this job on your own car. Be sure to get proper torque figures and use a torque wrench to tighten nuts and bolts. The part you are about to replace is made of plastic and will deform if not installed with some care. Follow all appropriate safety practices and remember that brake fluid is poisonous and should be disposed of appropriately.***


    Brake fluid is supplied to the clutch master cylinder by a hose from the brake reservoir, which both the clutch and brakes share. When you press on the clutch pedal, the clutch master cylinder (CMC) draws some of this fluid out the exit port of the brake master cylinder reservoir through a rubber hose about 2 feet long. This fluid is forced down through a rubber/metal hose to the clutch slave cylinder located on the transmission.

    The pedal-on-the-floor-defect usually can mean the clutch itself has failed, or the throw-out bearing has failed which is usually followed with some sort of noise, or that the clutch slave cylinder on the transmission has failed, which can usually be detected by leaking brake fluid or the pedal dropping to the floor immediately after pressing it, but sometimes this is not the case. Sometimes the pedal feels fine but doesn't operate the clutch properly. The engagement point could be too high, or too low, or you feel a vibration or shudder in the clutch pedal as you press or release and it may also drop to the floor. This usually signals a clutch master cylinder failure. Of course any of these symptoms guarantee that one of these items has failed mechanically.

    If you try to bleed your clutch slave and zero brake fluid releases from the valve, or there is no clutch pedal pressure and it drops to the floor while performing a bleed procedure, and does not regain pressure, then most likely it is your clutch master cylinder.

    Removal of clutch master:

    It can be done multiple ways. You can remove the whole pedal assembly and do the dis-assembly work outside of the car, or unbolt and remove the clutch master cylinder from inside the car. It’s still a tight access job no matter which way you choose. I chose to remove just the clutch master cylinder and leave the clutch pedal assembly intact. I will explain the way I did it.

    Tools required:
    1. 3/8 Ratchet & extensions, 11mm open end wrench (to bleed the clutch slave)
    2. A 6mm allen head socket or 6mm ball socket
    3. 10mm deep or short socket
    4. Long flat head screw driver or 12”pry bar
    5. A curved end pick ( not really req. but it can help)
    6. Rubber Brake line hose 2-3feet (not req. but just in case)
    7. Dot4 brake fluid of your choice
    8. Plenty of Rags (brake fluid is corrosive )
    9. Long needle nose pliers
    10. 3/8 Socket universal joint/ratchet swivel (everyone calls it something different but knows what it is)

    First we will start in the engine bay area. Go to the brake master cylinder reservoir and locate the hose that feeds the Clutch master cylinder (CMC) and clutch slave line (mine is an upgraded SS line) pictured below. Your going to want to clamp this rubber hose off because your going to remove it from the firewall. I used a needle nose vice grip. Removing this hose is a major PITA and this is why I recommend buying additional hose because you may or may not be able to remove this hose from the firewall side. I ended up cutting it and using the spare hose I bought to replace this. Get your rags ready because there will be some fluid loss. Next remove the clutch slave line which is directly below it. I used a pick, and a very long curved needle nose pliers to remove the pin that secures this line. Once removed give it a good firm pull and it will come out.











    Next you will be removing the lower kickpanel under the dash. It's 3 Bolts. For this I didn't bother to take any pictures because I'm sure most of you have removed this panel at least once, but if not, here's a link from A4mods.com on how to do this:

    http://a4mods.com/index.php?page=web...tml&category=4

    Once your finished it should look like this....





    Get yourself in a good position because your work space is very limited at this point. You'll see what I mean. Locate the CMC it's directly above the clutch pedal/steering column and to the right and held in by two 6mm allen bolts and a clip. I used my ratchet, and a 6mm allen socket to get the 1st bolt out on the left. The one on the right is not so accessible and will require a swivel. You can do what I did and remove the sensor from in front like I did, it will give you way more access to the bolt, or use a ball seat allen socket.











    Once loosened you're still not home free. Next you have to remove the clutch pedal spring which is easily removed by hand. Simply pull the clutch pedal up to its normal position and carefully pop it out. Remember the correct orientation. This will give you the additional room you need to remove the slave itself.








    Next you will need a long flat-head screwdriver or pry bar to unseat the CMC slave line from a bracket in the firewall. This was another PITA for me and I ended up breaking it. Since you won't be reusing this that's ok and the bracket is made of metal so you don't have to worry about damaging it. In the 1st Picture, the tool on the left is what I used.






    Once you free that line, the final PITA is un-clipping it from the clutch pedal itself. It will take some crafty work to get the clip pinched to remove it. For this I used a pick, a flat-head screw driver, and a vice grip needle nose pliers to pull on the rod while I pinched the clip. I ended up breaking one side of the pinch clip but again you will not be reusing and part of the old CMC. Keep the clutch pedal in the upright highest position you can while putting tension and pulling at the rod at the same time. This is why I used a vise grip aka locking pliers. It will eventually come out.







    Engine bay firewall side once everything is removed.



    Pictures of the pinch clip for reference.




    Make sure you compare the old part with the new. Remove the plastic plugs from the new CMC before you install.





    Install everything in reverse. Then top of your brake fluid and if necessary bleed your entire system or just bleed the clutch slave cylinder. Enjoy!!! and Good Luck!!!
    Last edited by 4BiddnA4; 12-16-2013 at 10:03 PM.
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    Nice work! I wish I had seen this before I replaced mine. I honestly didn't think you could get it out without removing the complete pedal assembly. I removed the ECM box to get to the outside connections as well as the complete pedal assembly to get to the inside connections. Spent the better part of a Saturday getting it done.

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    Nice DIY
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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    Nice work! I wish I had seen this before I replaced mine. I honestly didn't think you could get it out without removing the complete pedal assembly. I removed the ECM box to get to the outside connections as well as the complete pedal assembly to get to the inside connections. Spent the better part of a Saturday getting it done.
    I really went into this blind and just tried to simplify the removal as much as possible. I wish a DIY was around when I was doing it. That's why I made this one to help other people out who may want to do this.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTRchop88 View Post
    Nice DIY
    Thanks!!
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    Nice DIY!

    Its still a PITA to change...
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    Question.

    Is there an actual method for releasing the plastic clip from the clutch pedal??

    I've been on and off trying for two weeks now and its pissing me off every time I attempt to remove it.
    even when I've pressed in both side of the clip, I just couldnt pull the rod out

    help please!
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    Disclaimer: I have never tried the below method on an A4. Just food for thought.


    A trick I used on my mk3 golf which uses the same type of pinch clip is to use a small drill bit and drill a hole in the face of the clutch pedal arm. This in no way ruins or weakens the arm but allows you to use a small punch to pop the clip out. Just drill in line with where the clip seats and go down until you see the white of the clip. Insert punch and tap it out.

    I was never able to get the mk3 one out without using this method. They are really, really hard to get out while inside the car still.

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    ^^ Thanks a lot!!

    it worked flawlessly. I took a drill to it like you said and drilled the slot bigger and then used a flat head to pry the clip out.

    Doing the install tomorrow and I wouldnt mind any pointers anyone has to offer with this install.

    When I removed the old one, i breifly tried to install the new one then daylight kinda ran out but it was hard to angle the new one enough to slide the pin back in because of the weird angles and limited space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrone View Post
    ^^ Thanks a lot!!

    it worked flawlessly. I took a drill to it like you said and drilled the slot bigger and then used a flat head to pry the clip out.

    Doing the install tomorrow and I wouldnt mind any pointers anyone has to offer with this install.

    When I removed the old one, i breifly tried to install the new one then daylight kinda ran out but it was hard to angle the new one enough to slide the pin back in because of the weird angles and limited space.

    Hey sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. The pinch clip is a royal pita. Drill idea is cool also. What I did was use a pick and insert /wedge it into one side of the clip to compress it then use a very small flat screwdriver to pinch in the other. Then as pictured I used the needle nose plier to pull out the cmc rod real fast.

    For reassembly you mount and bolt the cmc into its postion first, then push the pedal all the way down towards the floor and reinsert the clip. You put the pedal spring back in last. Hope this helps.....
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    For the love of everything holy this pinch clip is hands down the hardest thing ive ever done on a car. I cannont get the thing out, i have screwdrivers and have the coips pinched together just about and do dice. There are openings on the sides of the clutch pedal in order to push it in which is where my screwdrivers go. Im not following where you guys would be or need to drill any tips to get this this clip from hell out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neemo6 View Post
    For the love of everything holy this pinch clip is hands down the hardest thing ive ever done on a car. I cannont get the thing out, i have screwdrivers and have the coips pinched together just about and do dice. There are openings on the sides of the clutch pedal in order to push it in which is where my screwdrivers go. Im not following where you guys would be or need to drill any tips to get this this clip from hell out?
    #customa4 this is what I did today Sucked major ****

    A little tip...remove the bolts that hold the clutch pedal to the aluminum bracket then remove the clip at the pivot point of the clutch pedal to the bracket(AKA brake and gas pedals attach to) then on the motor side or in between the false and real firewall, remove the low pressure line (easy part) then under neath it is the high pressure line. Working in that area remove the clip on the engine bay side of the master cylinder high pressure line then start pulling on that metal line. I pulled and pulled some more until wrapping that up for the day.

    Next day I was working on the inside of the car and tried pulling the clutch pedal by getting at that stupid white clip(on the end of the M.C. metal rod that secures it to the clutch pedal) out of the clutch pedal. This part was a HUGE PITA and I couldn't get it so I went back to the high pressure line after confirming it does just pull out once the clip is out on the engine bay side. It FINALLY popped out, and then I was able to remove the whole clutch pedal once I removed the clip at the pivot point. I hope this helps others as this info would have helped me immensely!! Good luck and keep on

    Edit: Here's another other tip I forgot to mention. The low pressure/feed line to the CMC can easily be taken off the fluid resivior on the brake booster. Disconnect it there and then follow it to where it passes through the firewall. Its held in there by a rubber grommet. Use a flat head pop off the grommet and slide it off the hose. Then go to the inside of the car. The plastic clip holding it to the metal bracket simply comes out if you turn it counter clockwise (I think) and push it up. Can be done by hand. Now its only attached to the CMC and when that comes out you can remove that end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiertyEuroSpec View Post
    #customa4 this is what I did today Sucked major ****

    A little tip...remove the bolts that hold the clutch pedal to the aluminum bracket then remove the clip at the pivot point of the clutch pedal to the bracket(AKA brake and gas pedals attach to) then on the motor side or in between the false and real firewall, remove the low pressure line (easy part) then under neath it is the high pressure line. Working in that area remove the clip on the engine bay side of the master cylinder high pressure line then start pulling on that metal line. I pulled and pulled some more until wrapping that up for the day.

    Next day I was working on the inside of the car and tried pulling the clutch pedal by getting at that stupid white clip(on the end of the M.C. metal rod that secures it to the clutch pedal) out of the clutch pedal. This part was a HUGE PITA and I couldn't get it so I went back to the high pressure line after confirming it does just pull out once the clip is out on the engine bay side. It FINALLY popped out, and then I was able to remove the whole clutch pedal once I removed the clip at the pivot point. I hope this helps others as this info would have helped me immensely!! Good luck and keep on

    Edit: Here's another other tip I forgot to mention. The low pressure/feed line to the CMC can easily be taken off the fluid resivior on the brake booster. Disconnect it there and then follow it to where it passes through the firewall. Its held in there by a rubber grommet. Use a flat head pop off the grommet and slide it off the hose. Then go to the inside of the car. The plastic clip holding it to the metal bracket simply comes out if you turn it counter clockwise (I think) and push it up. Can be done by hand. Now its only attached to the CMC and when that comes out you can remove that end.
    HAHA. Was just searching around for swap threads and different tips and somehow stumbled on this thread. Didn't see this when you posted it but glad I found it. Thanks for the info.
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    I am at the point that when the clutch is fully press, I can barely engage reverse gear.

    I don't see any leaks from the slave or master cylinder visually. I am wondering if bleeding will fix the issue?

    If not do I replace both the slave and master cylinder or is there a way to determine which one to replace?
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    damn guys, any tips on getting the new master cylinder in??? I thought I was in the clear once I got that ******* clip out, I used a vice grip and a hammer lol. but my struggle is getting the rubber bushing and washer through the pedal bracket to line up with the hole in the firewall. I even tried to reuse the old squashed up bushing thinking it would slide in there easier, but looks like I may need to remove the pedal assy :(

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    I'm struggling to get the hydraulic line inside the new clutch master cylinder. It will go in but it doesn't seem like it goes in far enough because when I push the clip in it doesn't lock it in place. Any tips? I have the clutch master bolts both screwed all of the way in

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    I'm having the same issue as Dr Roy. Were you ever able to find a solution? It's literally the only thing keeping me from finishing a years long rebuild project so if you have any info I would be very appreciative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaraudiSquad View Post
    I'm having the same issue as Dr Roy. Were you ever able to find a solution? It's literally the only thing keeping me from finishing a years long rebuild project so if you have any info I would be very appreciative.
    Are you using the stock hydraulic line and an oem clutch master cylinder? I ask because if the line diameter is too big or if the o-rin in the master cylinder is a little too big it would make it tough to get the line in.

    I just recently took a blown motor and the automatic transmission out of a project car shell I got and put my manual driveline into it so I had to go through the process of snaking the clutch master to slave line behind the brake booster and getting it to seat into the clutch master cylinder. I believe there is an o-ring where the lines goes into the master cylinder and that may make it a little harder to insert.

    The way I was able to do it was to get the line in the correct position then place a long pry bar against it and the false firewall to force it into the clutch master cylinder. Placing a rag between the line and the bar stopped it from getting marked up, but this allowed me to get the line into where it needed to go. I won't say that it is the recommended way of going about the process since the master cylinder is mostly made out of plastic and could crack, but it worked for me.
    I had to slightly bend the line to get it out of the old donor car and had to bend it back into place after getting it into the new car so if I was able to get it into the master cylinder I'd imagine you should not have any issues. Maybe some silicone lubricant could help the line go into the master cylinder easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrone View Post
    Question.

    Is there an actual method for releasing the plastic clip from the clutch pedal??

    I've been on and off trying for two weeks now and its pissing me off every time I attempt to remove it.
    even when I've pressed in both side of the clip, I just couldnt pull the rod out

    help please!
    Use hose grip pliers to squeeze the tabs and then pull the rod back with needle nose vise grips. Took me all of 3 minutes this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Use hose grip pliers to squeeze the tabs and then pull the rod back with needle nose vise grips. Took me all of 3 minutes this way.
    I wish I knew this while doing mine. I looked at it and went 'NOPE', then paid a mechanic do it. He took less that 2 minutes and basically did what you described.

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    A quick tip or 2
    For the white clip in the pedal. Use a set of needle nose hose pliers. It will slot in both sides and pop it right out.
    As for getting it back againt the firewall. Lube up the rubber grommet and wedge it under the aluminum bracket and slide it into place

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    Just wanted to pop in since I am in the process of doing this job and say I used a bolt cutter and just cut the rod on the one coming out. Once there is no longer pressure on it getting it out of the pedal was much easier.

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