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    So there are a lot of threads out there with different info on this subject, but not a true DIY. I'm here to help the others out there like me, who do way too much research before doing something.

    This job is easier than it sounds. I want everyone to know that. I was worried forever about doing this, but I got it done today in 2 hrs while my son was taking a nap. Only had one issue where I didn't have one specific size socket, and had to run over to a neighbor's house.

    There are two methods to do this. Some say it's possible to swap the mounts without dropping the brackets from the bottom, and by just lifting the engine up high enough to pull the mounts out. I attempted this method, just to know if it is possible. For me it was not. Even with the engine lifted as high as it would go, I could still not get the mounts out. Just save yourself some time, and do it by dropping the motor mount brackets from the bottom. This way you won't have to jack up the engine much at all.

    You need a stubby ratcheting 13 MM wrench
    18 MM socket
    19 MM socket
    13 MM socket (not necessary, but would be quicker than using the wrench for every nut)
    T5 Allan head socket

    I do not have an airbox, but I'm assuming it would need to be removed to be able to do anything from the top on the passenger side. But it can all be done from the bottom on this side if necessary.

    Start with the passenger side, as it's the trickiest. I removed the top nut of both mounts first. Driver's side is cake, passenger side is where it's tricky. And this is not as hard as people make it sound either. It's really easy to get the ratcheting stubby over the nut. Only trouble is you can't see it. Reach down from the top of the turbo, and fold the heat shield up to get better access. I did this from the top, but it's even a little easier from the bottom, since you can get a hand on each side at the same time. Either way works. Here is why you need the stubby:



    You can literally only get two fingers on the wrench from any angle. Luckily, the top nuts didn't require much force, and I was able to break it loose rather easily. Hopefully this is the case for everyone.

    Then get the car up on jack stands, if you haven't already.

    First I removed the snub mount bracket, as this will allow the engine to move freely when you jack it up. Three T5 Allan head bolts. You can just leave it hanging there, or remove it.



    Now on the bottom, each engine mount is connected to a bracket. Then each sway bar bracket is attached to this bracket. Now you will need to remove 4 13 MM nuts, 2 each side, for the front sway bar brackets. with these removed, you can swing the sway bar down a few inches out of the way.



    Make sure and mark the brackets underneath with a marker, so that you remember which hole had the nipple on the motor mount poking through. Do this for each side.



    Then, each bracket is held in with two 19 MM bolts, and one 18 MM bolt. The 19 MM bolts were cake, but the 18 MM on each side required a breaker bar to break loose. Drop the bracket down. I never tried to remove the bracket completely, but I'm sure it could be done. If you remove the bracket completely, you would not need to raise the engine at all. I seem to recall it not looking very easy to get the brackets out, and didn't want to forget the orientation, so I just left them hanging there. Now you should be able to pull each mount out. If you don't have enough room, then you can use a floor jack, and with a piece of wood, jack up the engine at the oil pan. You can jack it up pretty high, but you won't need to jack it up much for clearance when removing the brackets underneath.

    Install the new mounts, remembering to align the nipple with the correct hole in the bracket. I tightenend the brackets up completely, and left the mounts loose. t Put the snub mount bracket back on, but don't tighten it yet either. Remember to put the sway bar back together. I dropped the car down, and went for a drive around the block. Came back, lifted the front again, and tightened the mounts and snub mount completely. Done.
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    I had the same issue of the motor mounts not being able to come out after lifting the engine. Guess I am going to have to go this route. How loose did you keep the bolts when you went for a drive before tightening them? For the snub mount did you keep the bolts that are holding the snub mount to the engine loose or the bolts that the actual rubber snub goes into?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 08B7Q View Post
    I had the same issue of the motor mounts not being able to come out after lifting the engine. Guess I am going to have to go this route. How loose did you keep the bolts when you went for a drive before tightening them? For the snub mount did you keep the bolts that are holding the snub mount to the engine loose or the bolts that the actual rubber snub goes into?
    For the mounts, I did not have those bolts very tight when I went for a quick drive. I only completely tightened the bracket back on, but left the mount itself loose enough to be able to move. For the snub mount, I only loosened the bolts holding the bracket. I did nothing to the part the snub goes into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    For the mounts, I did not have those bolts very tight when I went for a quick drive. I only completely tightened the bracket back on, but left the mount itself loose enough to be able to move. For the snub mount, I only loosened the bolts holding the bracket. I did nothing to the part the snub goes into.
    Ok got it! Ill probably do this tomorrow. Thanks for the thorough write up!

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    So I just did this job, fairly easily thanks to this diy. Thank you very much :)

    Few notes

    - I replaced the snub mount too, so I completely removed all 6 aforementioned bolts/nuts, and it came right out.
    - motor mount bracket bolts were all 18mm for me. I removed them, leaving a Jack stand under the subframe, and mount removal was easy.
    - I got to the passenger side mount top nut from under, but I think it could've been easier from the top had I known it was right there, under heat shield.

    Install overall went easy, but then I got to the driver's side...

    I got all parts from 034, and they sent me 2 identical mounts. However, my driver side mount has a sensor plugged into it. I did not see anything about it in any diy either - anyone know anything about this?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!





    I put it back together for now since car is my daily, upgraded snub and 1of2 motor mounts.. figured it'll be easy the second time around...

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    That sensor only comes on auto trans cars I believe. I don't think it will throw a code, and you do not need it.

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    Thanks for your response!! Any idea what it is specifically for? It can't be for show... I'd much prefer to know before I remove...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoonee46 View Post
    Thanks for your response!! Any idea what it is specifically for? It can't be for show... I'd much prefer to know before I remove...

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    Looks like it's just to monitor the fluid level inside, which you wouldn't need anyway since these have no fluid. Like a brake pad sensor kinda thing.

    Here is a resistor if it does happen to give you a cel:

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    You, my friend, are the man. Done, swapped out real quick. Thanks a bunch!

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    That's what this thread is for!

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    My passenger side mount had been leaking for a while. Replaced both mounts this weekend. Thanks for writing up the DIY. :)

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    Nice write up JR!

    I had a leaky driver side motor mount and swapped for some 034 street density mounts. This is one of the first upgrades I should have done. Smoother shifting, drivetrain is noticeably tighter with no significant increase in cabin vibrations. I was very surprised at the night and day difference.

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    I have a very bad vibration when under load and next thing to try is to replace the mounts. Did you notice any difference in engine vibration going to the 034 mounts over factory mounts? The 034 mounts are considerably cheaper but I know are more rigid. Since I am combating a vibration problem I am concerned to use the 034 mounts. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrtex1 View Post
    I have a very bad vibration when under load and next thing to try is to replace the mounts. Did you notice any difference in engine vibration going to the 034 mounts over factory mounts? The 034 mounts are considerably cheaper but I know are more rigid. Since I am combating a vibration problem I am concerned to use the 034 mounts. Thoughts?
    In my case, the extra vibration was not noticeable. IMO, I would never replace something with OEM, if it can be upgraded with something that performs better.

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    It's my turn next weekend. Shop wanted to charge 6.5 hours of labor for a 2 hour diy job... approaching 100k so replacing snub mount and motor mounts. Just hope these 034 are as good as everybody makes them out to be. And many thanks for the write up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master trojan View Post
    It's my turn next weekend. Shop wanted to charge 6.5 hours of labor for a 2 hour diy job... approaching 100k so replacing snub mount and motor mounts. Just hope these 034 are as good as everybody makes them out to be. And many thanks for the write up.
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure "the book" States that it is necessary to remove the turbo in order to do this job, which is obviously bull shit

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    Recently installed 034 motorsports mounts, wow some good vibs outta the car now! But the power transfer to wheels is amazing. Did trans mount at same time. And its like more ponies. I know its no more HP but just much improved transfer to the wheels. I love them!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianA4B7 View Post
    Recently installed 034 motorsports mounts, wow some good vibs outta the car now! But the power transfer to wheels is amazing. Did trans mount at same time. And its like more ponies. I know its no more HP but just much improved transfer to the wheels. I love them!!!
    What trans mount did you go with? Has anyone installed the ECS mounts? I'm debating between them and 034.

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    Stern trans mount. Everything in my car is locked down tighter then needed. I need to get short throw shifter on my list. But it feels incredable now that power is direct motor to wheel.

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    I managed to remove both leaked mounts by removing top & bottom 13mm nuts, and slow jack up with the 3 ton with 2x4 wood on the front part of the oil pan. You will be surprised how much the engine will raise enough to install the 034 engine mount even slight taller than the OEM one. The passenger is a bit tricky due to lack of room to work. I had to removed the rubber hose connected from Turbo to intercooler, and 1 ground wire to get more room to remove the top mount nut.

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    This is how I removed my engine mounts:


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    I recenty installed the 034 mounts and is a slight more vibration that the stock ones,I feel through the steering wheel during idle not when its moving.It been on only a few days light driving some people said it needs to "settle" in a few weeks.I update you in a few weeks inregards to the final judgment but they seems good.I heard the tip vibrates more than the stick.

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    I loosened mine from below after about a week and drove the car several times back and forth before torquing them back up. That seemed to help a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvitrafn View Post
    I loosened mine from below after about a week and drove the car several times back and forth before torquing them back up. That seemed to help a bit.
    you had the same vibrations?...it noticeable in the steering wheel when idle..not when its driving...again I let them break in for a few weeks and if that doesn't help I re torque the bolts again.

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    Holy shit. Just finished this pig. Will post "unique" pics later (that haven't already been posted).

    A couple observations not specifically called out in Jim's DIY:
    -I found it mandatory to drop the bracket that the motor mounts sit on in order to jack the engine up enough to pull mounts out. (A pipe on the end of your ratchet is your friend...the 18mm bolts will need to broken.
    -With that, I had 18mm bolts only on these brackets...i did not have any 19mm.
    -The top nut of the motor mount on the passenger side really isn't too bad. Jim is correct that you will need to move the air box out of the way (not completely removed) to loosen this nut. Use a stubby, flex-head #13 ratcheting wrench. It will take short strokes, but it will come out (that's what she said).
    -Regarding this same nut...it is easier to put this nut back on from below with both hands reaching up to get the nut going. I recommend laying down perpendicular to the car, in front of the front passenger wheel. Reach your right hand up through the opening aft of the frame, but forward of the axel....NOT from directly below the mount. Left hand can go up directly beneath mount. Use your both hands to get the nut started.
    -If you have taken the bracket for the snub mount completely off (like I did because I was replacing this mount as well), before lowering the engine back on the motor mounts, make sure you get the snub mount back into its pocket, otherwise it will not go in easily with the engine settled fully on the mounts.
    -If you're an average, but thorough, wrencher like me, plan for 4 hours.


    Jim, thanks for you DIY, it was very well written. If I think of any more comments, I be sure to edit my post.
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    Ok the 034 mounts been on the last few weeks and my mechanic checked it again and it was all good,the mounts does add abit more vibration than the stocks ones but car does fill "tighter" when accelerating from a dead stop.You can feel the vibration during idle through the steering and at the floor more than the stock ones but when in motion you can barely notice it.I overall say it is a very good product but time will tell how long it last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanster View Post
    Holy shit. Just finished this pig. Will post "unique" pics later (that haven't already been posted).

    A couple observations not specifically called out in Jim's DIY:
    -I found it mandatory to drop the bracket that the motor mounts sit on in order to jack the engine up enough to pull mounts out. (A pipe on the end of your ratchet is your friend...the 18mm bolts will need to broken.
    -With that, I had 18mm bolts only on these brackets...i did not have any 19mm.
    -The top nut of the motor mount on the passenger side really isn't too bad. Jim is correct that you will need to move the air box out of the way (not completely removed) to loosen this nut. Use a stubby, flex-head #13 ratcheting wrench. It will take short strokes, but it will come out (that's what she said).
    -Regarding this same nut...it is easier to put this nut back on from below with both hands reaching up to get the nut going. I recommend laying down perpendicular to the car, in front of the front passenger wheel. Reach your right hand up through the opening aft of the frame, but forward of the axel....NOT from directly below the mount. Left hand can go up directly beneath mount. Use your both hands to get the nut started.
    -If you have taken the bracket for the snub mount completely off (like I did because I was replacing this mount as well), before lowering the engine back on the motor mounts, make sure you get the snub mount back into its pocket, otherwise it will not go in easily with the engine settled fully on the mounts.
    -If you're an average, but thorough, wrencher like me, plan for 4 hours.


    Jim, thanks for you DIY, it was very well written. If I think of any more comments, I be sure to edit my post.
    I have no idea how you got 2 hands in the passenger side. I had to do everything I could just to fit one hand in there to get the top nut off of and back on the passenger side mount. I had it done in about 3 hours or so and that was taking it easy. I'd give my wrenching skills a 3/5 (1 being never done anything mechanical and 5 being an actual mechanic) so take that for what it's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAudiB7A4 View Post
    I have no idea how you got 2 hands in the passenger side. I had to do everything I could just to fit one hand in there to get the top nut off of and back on the passenger side mount. I had it done in about 3 hours or so and that was taking it easy. I'de give my wrenching skills a 3/5 (1 being never done anything mechanical and 5 being an actual mechanic) so take that for what it's worth.
    X2, that's a 2 finger and no eyes maneuver.

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    Did this last night with the help from a friend, total time - 1 1/2 hours. Installed the 034 mounts. Here are my $0.02...

    - Instead of a stubby 13mm ratcheting wrench (which I had and tried) I was able to get the passenger side top mount nut off using a full size 13mm ratcheting wrench with swivel head. Since the nut sits in a recessed pocket you only have a narrow width to play with. I removed the air box and angled the boxed end of the wrench at a little more than 45 degree angle and positioned it over the nut from the top. This allowed me to have more leverage since the wrench is longer. After wrestling with the stubby for over 15 minutes, it only took 2 minutes to remove with the full size wrench.

    - The bracket bolts for me were all 19mm.

    - I removed all 4 sway bar bolts first, then the snub mount bracket then I tackled one side at a time. Passenger side first since it was the harder side. I removed the 2 bracket bolts that sit next to each other first and only partially backed out the bolt that goes through the sub frame. This and jacking up the engine gave me enough space to pry out the mounts.

    All-in-all it was pretty straight forward and took us less time than we thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAudiB7A4 View Post
    I have no idea how you got 2 hands in the passenger side. I had to do everything I could just to fit one hand in there to get the top nut off of and back on the passenger side mount. I had it done in about 3 hours or so and that was taking it easy. I'de give my wrenching skills a 3/5 (1 being never done anything mechanical and 5 being an actual mechanic) so take that for what it's worth.
    Definitely a "no eyes" maneuver. From underneath you can definitely get two hands, but only middle and forefinger of each hand. You have to lay perpendicular to the car to do it and stick your arm through odd angles.
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    @vanquishxl you sent me pm, but your mailbox is full.

    He was asking about the sensor on one of the mounts, and how to make it not throw a cel. I believe this sensor is only on automatic trans cars, so i did not have one. But i believe a part is made to plug into this sensor and trick the ecu. I would suggest hitting up @Hugh@EuropaParts to see if he can find the part I'm talking about.
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    ^034 sells the resistors to trick the ECU. I'm sure there are some other vendors that carry them as well.
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    We sell the resistors, let me know if you want them separate.

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    Hey -

    Sorry to bring this thread back up, but looks like it is time for me to replace my motor mounts (right one is leaking), and I got a quote for $800 -- mostly labor, because they claimed they had to drop the subframe. Clearly, with the DIYs here listed here, that seems excessive.

    The main thing I'm trying to figure out for my vehicle is how much harder having a Tiptronic makes it (I've learned that most DIYs are for manual cars and for the Tips, things get harder)? 2006 A4 2.0T Quattro here. I found another thread that mentioned due to the Tip, raising the engine can be tough to remove these mounts. It sounds like the easiest method is to support the engine with a jack and just drop out the old mounts, and in with the new ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by movax View Post
    Hey -

    Sorry to bring this thread back up, but looks like it is time for me to replace my motor mounts (right one is leaking), and I got a quote for $800 -- mostly labor, because they claimed they had to drop the subframe. Clearly, with the DIYs here listed here, that seems excessive.

    The main thing I'm trying to figure out for my vehicle is how much harder having a Tiptronic makes it (I've learned that most DIYs are for manual cars and for the Tips, things get harder)? 2006 A4 2.0T Quattro here. I found another thread that mentioned due to the Tip, raising the engine can be tough to remove these mounts. It sounds like the easiest method is to support the engine with a jack and just drop out the old mounts, and in with the new ones?
    Drop the mount brackets like this howto tells you to and it's an hour job on a tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philip_g View Post
    Drop the mount brackets like this howto tells you to and it's an hour job on a tip.
    Thanks, good to hear -- I ordered a pair of the 034 Street Density mounts, so excited to see how that turns out. Any recommendations on the specific type of 13mm wrench to get here? Sounds like that is where the job can be made really, really easy, or a huge pain in the ass. It's that bolt that all the write-ups call out as needing to be removed blindly. I've got 8 years of accumulated Michigan weather effects that I'm not looking forward to fighting.

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    Thanks jimrobbington! I just followed this diy for putting in b5 rs4 mounts.

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