2015 Porsche Macan

[boomtime]

Man this thing is ugly but supposedly camoflaged for the road testing.
I posted in here because "it shares its architecture with the Q5"
Im hoping this will open up some aftermarket and cross-model fitment for us Q5 owners to upgrade to some Porsche parts.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...py-photos-news

[ibiski]

Posting a link from May of 2012 and judging design based on camouflaged prototype? Really?

[boomtime]

busted! i thought it was more recent!
thanks for rubbing my nose in it s4 owner ;)
i just want the brakes

[Q5 Bob]

Here are some updated Macan photos.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/porsc...#photo-139289/

[ibiski]

Most recent shots: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2013/9/8...gring-7716118/
Still a bit camouflaged, but should look really good IMO.

[Scl1080]

This should be interesting to get all the information on the up coming auto shows. Sounds like we will receive two engine choices to start in the USA. A 3.0turbo and a 3.6 turbo with an eventual 2.0t model. The 3.0t could be really nice in the fact it should sit lowere, wider and likely better suspension and handling then the q5 which would help alleviate some suspension moding that usually people do to the q5. I also imagine the options will be pricing but should give some choices the adaptive suspension and their torque vectoring stuff. The just chip it and would be good to go.

Any one else cross shopping the macan. From the most recent pics I think it looks pretty sexy, still would rather just have an s4 avant though.

[M3_WC]

Macan S - $52,000 (3.0L turbo)

Macan Turbo - $75,000 (3.5L turbo)

[NOFEARCT]

Macan S - $52,000 (3.0L turbo)

Macan Turbo - $75,000 (3.5L turbo)

75k... Better be fast! Lol that's a lot for a big sneaker

[Q5 Bob]

This should be interesting to get all the information on the up coming auto shows. Sounds like we will receive two engine choices to start in the USA. A 3.0turbo and a 3.6 turbo with an eventual 2.0t model. The 3.0t could be really nice in the fact it should sit lowere, wider and likely better suspension and handling then the q5 which would help alleviate some suspension moding that usually people do to the q5. I also imagine the options will be pricing but should give some choices the adaptive suspension and their torque vectoring stuff. The just chip it and would be good to go.

Any one else cross shopping the macan. From the most recent pics I think it looks pretty sexy, still would rather just have an s4 avant though.

I like the looks of it too. It won't sell in the volume the Q5 does, but I'm guessing it will do well for the Porsche division.

[M3_WC]

75k... Better be fast! Lol that's a lot for a big sneaker

I am sure it will be very quick. At the minimum the turbo will have 450hp.

The Macan S is the same engine from the Panamera S which has 420hp. Most likely will be detuned for the Macan.

Macan will be a hell of deal if you ask me. Easy hp gains with a tune and only $100 more than a SQ5.

[M3_WC]

This should be interesting to get all the information on the up coming auto shows. Sounds like we will receive two engine choices to start in the USA. A 3.0turbo and a 3.6 turbo with an eventual 2.0t model. The 3.0t could be really nice in the fact it should sit lowere, wider and likely better suspension and handling then the q5 which would help alleviate some suspension moding that usually people do to the q5. I also imagine the options will be pricing but should give some choices the adaptive suspension and their torque vectoring stuff. The just chip it and would be good to go.

Any one else cross shopping the macan. From the most recent pics I think it looks pretty sexy, still would rather just have an s4 avant though.

Yeah I see a 2.0t coming as well. Especially with the rumors the base Cayman will switch to a 4-cylinder turbo soon.

[NOFEARCT]

I am sure it will be very quick. At the minimum the turbo will have 450hp.

The Macan S is the same engine from the Panamera S which has 420hp. Most likely will be detuned for the Macan.

Macan will be a hell of deal if you ask me. Easy hp gains with a tune and only $100 more than a SQ5.

I didn't realize the SQ5 was so expensive, I have two Q5 3.0T's so the SQ5 is a serious premium over my little pedal cars... In that case that Porsche is a great buy!

[jareds941]

Hard to know until you see the options list and costs...Porsche options make audi options look cheap.

[ibiski]

I didn't realize the SQ5 was so expensive, I have two Q5 3.0T's so the SQ5 is a serious premium over my little pedal cars... In that case that Porsche is a great buy!

Serious premium?

[NOFEARCT]

Serious premium?

I misunderstood what was said above and thought the SQ5 cost around the same as the turbo variant, which had me scratching my head if the SQ5 could be a 50% premium over my 3.0T... Lol fail

[Apparition]

I am sure it will be very quick. At the minimum the turbo will have 450hp.

The Macan S is the same engine from the Panamera S which has 420hp. Most likely will be detuned for the Macan.

Macan will be a hell of deal if you ask me. Easy hp gains with a tune and only $100 more than a SQ5.

If you look at the power the Cayenne S and Cayenne Turbo are making, you can make some really good guesses on where the Macan S and Turbo will slot out. Porsche will keep breathing room between the two models the same way they do with the Cayman and the 911. My guess is 360hp and 460 hp respectively. Best case. But as you mentioned, the same powerplant in the Panamera makes 420hp so it's likely the Macan S will be very tuneable. I'm honestly more interested in how these things will handle and how heavy they wind up being.

[boomtime]

Macan S - $52,000 (3.0L turbo)

Macan Turbo - $75,000 (3.5L turbo)

I like those taillights wayyy better than the camo test model in my original post! Cant wait to see one at my local dealer! I could afford 55k, it would be two hundred more a month but I am now considering it!

[Apparition]

I am sure it will be very quick. At the minimum the turbo will have 450hp.

The Macan S is the same engine from the Panamera S which has 420hp. Most likely will be detuned for the Macan.

Macan will be a hell of deal if you ask me. Easy hp gains with a tune and only $100 more than a SQ5.

So here's an update with information supposedly gleaned from the Macan's project leader, Hans-Juergen Woehler. The turbo Macan's 3.6L V6 will be rated at 400hp and the S will be rated at 340hp. He claims the "S" will be a supercharged V6. They also say they're targeting a curb weight of 1700kg. I'd be shocked if they are able to achieve that but don't know if that includes passenger, fuel, etc.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...009-2v77g.html

Motor Trend also has a first ride along and they too claim 400hp for the Turbo:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...an_first_ride/

[ibiski]

Glad I went with SQ5 vs waiting for Macan. We'll have to wait till November to see the final version, but looking at these shots (especially the profile), the long and low hood, plus the compromised rear storage due to the aggressive shape of the hatch are big turn offs for me. 1700 kilos? That's 800 pounds less than the SQ5 which is smaller. I'd say impossible, unless they make the whole thing out of CF and alu.

[hoppy6698]

Glad I went with SQ5 vs waiting for Macan. We'll have to wait till November to see the final version, but looking at these shots (especially the profile), the long and low hood, plus the compromised rear storage due to the aggressive shape of the hatch are big turn offs for me. 1700 kilos? That's 800 pounds less than the SQ5 which is smaller. I'd say impossible, unless they make the whole thing out of CF and alu.

My thoughts as well, but I'm not as pressed for time and I don't need the extra space, so the Macan is an interesting twist. For me, its up between the S4, SQ5, or Macan to replace my 09 A4. 2.0T has been solid, but I'm making more and feel like a little more sport to my fun.

[Eb12]

Glad I went with SQ5 vs waiting for Macan. We'll have to wait till November to see the final version, but looking at these shots (especially the profile), the long and low hood, plus the compromised rear storage due to the aggressive shape of the hatch are big turn offs for me. 1700 kilos? That's 800 pounds less than the SQ5 which is smaller. I'd say impossible, unless they make the whole thing out of CF and alu.

Some of the trade-offs of this approach are somewhat counter-intuitive to what you'd expect of a performance-oriented brand, such as a slightly heavier curb weight than an equivalent Q5, but robust powertrains of up to 400 hp and masterfully tuned suspension calibrations make the Macan nearly as much fun to play with in the canyons as the Boxster and Cayman.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2hkd7c7IS

[osideaudi]

Some of the trade-offs of this approach are somewhat counter-intuitive to what you'd expect of a performance-oriented brand, such as a slightly heavier curb weight than an equivalent Q5, but robust powertrains of up to 400 hp and masterfully tuned suspension calibrations make the Macan nearly as much fun to play with in the canyons as the Boxster and Cayman.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2hkd7c7IS

wow that rear end is UGLY.

[spijun]

[NOFEARCT]

Didn't realize how severe that roofline on the Porsche was until I saw that Q5 comparison picture.

[josedebardi]

Didn't realize how severe that roofline on the Porsche was until I saw that Q5 comparison picture.

Boot/trunk will be tiny, may as well be a saloon/sedan!


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[spijun]

Who needs a larger car and a big trunk exists Porsche Cayenne

[hoppy6698]

Love the side by side looks though, definitely a different animal from the Q5. Pretty slick, still a toss up between the Macan and a S4 for me in a year or two though. Will see how reviews come out on it :)


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[osideaudi]

Love the side by side looks though, definitely a different animal from the Q5. Pretty slick, still a toss up between the Macan and a S4 for me in a year or two though. Will see how reviews come out on it :)


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I dunno.. personally I think that thing looks hideous. if its between that and an s4 I'd go with the s4 hands down.

[M3_WC]

Looks fantastic.

[ibiski]

Looks fantastic.

It does. I'm interested to see the pricing for an SQ5 comparable trim.

[Gspothit]

I'll take a Macan S before any Q5. Rear lights shown are not quite what it will look like. Macan S and Turbo will have the Panamera Sport Turismo concept tail lights in same fashion as in 911 4S. Just the base Macan and the TDI will look like it has been shown so far.

[ibiski]

specs leaked: http://www.worldcarfans.com/11311116...l-specs-leaked

[boomtime]

So according to the asian market:
Macan S = 3.0T = 340HP
Macan Turbo = 3.6T = 400HP

Do we know if the 3.0T is the same motor in the Q5, 3.0TFSI supercharged? Maybe thats why one trim is "S" and one is "Turbo"
The 3.0T badge on the Q5 is known to confuse others because its supercharged, not turbocharged.

[josedebardi]

The 3.0T badge on the Q5 is known to confuse others because its supercharged, not turbocharged.

I've decided that to Audi a T means "forced inducTion"!
S in Porsches world just means sport, nothing to do with the engine.

I'd be very surprised if the Macan S wasn't using the same engine. Which means its good for at least 354bhp per the SQ5. I'm also surprised the Macan S doesn't at least match the SQ5, but I figure they wanted a decent gap to the Turbo else people wouldn't pay the bigger price tag for a minimal performance increase.

Piston heads debates... http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=28843

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[ibiski]

Macan turbo motor is 3.6 and 400hp. Weight about 250 lbs less than SQ5. 0-100 (0-62mph) is listed at 4.8 so not that far off SQ5's time.

[josedebardi]

Macan turbo motor is 3.6 and 400hp. Weight about 250 lbs less than SQ5. 0-100 (0-62mph) is listed at 4.8 so not that far off SQ5's time.

Macan Turbo = 1947kg (not clear if this is with or without driver as in Chinese!)
SQ5 TDI = 1920kg (definitely not including driver)
SQ5 TFSI = 2000kg (converted from 4409lb - not sure if this includes a person as surprised its heavier than the TDI, could be as US curb is 100% tanked, whereas Euro kerb is 90% full tanks)

EDIT: 90% full tank of diesel is 57kg, 100% full tank of petrol is 53kg - so negligible...

Where you are getting 250lb lighter than the SQ5...? Most articles I have read are surprised that it is so heavy (as in the same if not more than the Q5 platform).

[ibiski]

I quickly googled SQ5 weight and (mistakenly) got 4550lbs from caranddriver.com while the Macan Turbo is 4292 lbs.

[spijun]

I've decided that to Audi a T means "forced inducTion"!
S in Porsches world just means sport, nothing to do with the engine.

Then how do you explain this, if it has nothing to do with engine



or

[josedebardi]

Then how do you explain this, if it has nothing to do with engine



or

Obviously the engine is different!!

I meant the S does not mean supercharged/turbo. Just that it is a more sporting model!!


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[spijun]

Obviously the engine is different!!

I meant the S does not mean supercharged/turbo. Just that it is a more sporting model!!


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When Porsche mark S it is: 50-110 horsepower more, depending on model

Porsche marks its powerful models with: S or Turbo, TurboS and GTS