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    How to rotate tires on a Quattro - non-directional

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    Hi I have non-directional tires (Pirelli p-zerro nero's m&s) and I would like to roate them coming up.
    My quesiton is what style is best recommended for quattros, front to back, criss cross etc...

    Also i only have access to 2 jack stands so what is the best sequence to rotate them with the tools i have.

    Thanks
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    Veteran Member Three Rings cbass's Avatar
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    Someone else might chime in with more knowledge than I have, but I always thought on AWD/4WD cars it was front to back/back to front, keeping the tires on the same side of the car.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings onemoremile's Avatar
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    yup. you normally don't want to switch sides. if your tires are excessively worn on the outside edge from too much camber you can have the tires taken off and flipped over. that way they can be run on the other side of the car with the nicer inside edge now on the outside of the car.
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    thanks, hopefully it's front to backs, makes it easy to rotate tires with 2 jack stands. Imagine the work going into doing a criss cross where the two fronts go back, and the two backs criss cross to the front.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings A4 in SC's Avatar
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    Yep, front to back, back to front, not switching sides.

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    There is ABSOLUTLY NO problem switching sides. At my shop, for RWD, AWD, and 4WD we move the rear straight up and the front go back and cross.

    Again, there is no problem with crossing sides. Doing it this way will get the tire to a different spot on the car each time which will extend the life of the tire.
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    Your owners manual says front to back back to front, no switching sides...
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    Originally posted by no1hustller
    There is ABSOLUTLY NO problem switching sides. At my shop, for RWD, AWD, and 4WD we move the rear straight up and the front go back and cross.

    Again, there is no problem with crossing sides. Doing it this way will get the tire to a different spot on the car each time which will extend the life of the tire.
    Most good tires are directional (i.e. the tire pattern to remove water) and the sidewall will be marked with the direction. If they rotate in the wrong direction, they won't remove water efficiently and you'll aquaplane. So you couldn't cross sides unless you remove them from the wheel and remount so they'll rotate in the same direction.

    Sometimes at track days, we might switch sides to even out the wear. But that's only a temporary switch when we know it's not going to rain.
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    i came out of the hardware store last week and saw a really nice newer f150 flareside sitting on dubs. the directional rears were on backwards. they looked a bit litle toyo proxes t1s and were very wide. we're supposed to get severe thunderstorms today and that dude is gonna have some fun.
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