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    DIY: Intake Manifold Flap Stuck? Unstick it for almost free! See and Read Here

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    Okay, so for starters, if you're not comfortable working on your car, and working with power tools, and working with power tools on parts that can't be replaced for under a few hundred dollars, then don't try this at home. Have a friend help you that possesses such skills.

    Anyway, this will unstick you intake manifold flap for free or nearly free, depending on what you already own. I had to buy a wire brush for dremel/drill that cost $3, and that was the only cost other than fuel to get to the store. Read on:


    ^We start by putting the car in service position. This is required. There are many write-ups out there for this, and many of you are probably already pretty good at it. Note some tricks in the following photos: put some tape over the edge of your fenders where the bumper studs poke through. This will help keep your paint nice.




    ^Stuff stuck in between the radiator core and the frame rails. The little plastic damper cushions from the packing on new Audis work great.


    ^The beast we are here to slay


    ^Take the bumper bolt and thread it into one of the holes from the bumper holder on the core support, and you can hang the core support on this. Works great! Just be careful when reinserting the bolt into the bumper bar bracket on the core support - there is a plastic keeper in there that holds on to it. You'll have to align it when you return it to its rightful post.


    ^Note the orientation of the shaft. Down is the low RPM position and to the left is the high RPM position. If yours is stuck but moveable by hand, PLEASE put it in the high RPM position until you fix it. You'll understand why later.
    disclaimer, I am told that this is backwards. It's been a while and my memory is not so good sometimes, so let's just go with those folks being correct


    ^Now, remove these two torx bolts, then gently but firmly pry the cup of the long actuator arm off the ball of the rotating arm of the flap. No need to remove the vacuum line; just move the thing out of the way. Better than risking breaking an old vacuum line that can be hard to get down to.


    ^This is what it should look like now.


    ^Now remove the center bolt, hex, on the flap arm itself.


    ^And this is what it looks like.


    ^Now, pull the hose circled in green and squeeze the clip shown in red, and set this aside as well.


    ^And we're here now. Good time to mark the orientation of the arm to the shaft, before we remove the arm. This will help later.


    ^Now pull the arm off. Immediately when it comes off, it will want to spin counterclockwise. DO NOT LET IT MOVE THE SHAFT. Let it rotate gently about 120* or so, and it will easily come off. The spring will come with it. Set both aside.


    ^Now we're here.


    ^You want the big aluminum housing to come off of the plastic covered shaft here. Sounds easy, but this is the exact part that is refusing to let it turn, so be prepared for a huge pain the rear.


    ^Start by prying the aluminum housing out away from the manifold a little. Use tiny screwdrivers and tap them in. You won't hurt anything as long as you don't make big gouges. It's a good idea to mark the orientation of the housing to the manifold, and to the shaft as well.




    ^Put progressively larger items behind the aluminum housing as you tap away. You can use the housing's bolts to keep it from coming out too far. Once the housing comes out far enough, it will pop off, but the shaft will try to come with it, which won't do you any good. Not to worry if the flap shaft falls out of the rear housing - you can fish it back in in about 20 seconds or less. You'll probably get pretty quick at it by the time you're done with this

    Keep tapping the shaft toward the rear of the car, using a piece of wood to protect the shaft nose from your tools. You do NOT want to bust it up.


    ^Once you get the shaft nose all the way into the housing, this strategy will cease to work. So stop!


    ^Now you can put the shaft bolt back in. Make sure it's threaded in several threads, and begin to whack on that. Here I am holding the housing out with a pair of pliers. Unthread it a bit if needed, but not too much. When you get near the end, you'll have to man it up or risk breaking those little threads. Just cowboy the F up and twist and pull it the last tiny bit.


    ^This is our culprit. You can kind of see the galling inside.


    ^Note the seal in red and the outside o-ring in blue. The o-ring can be had at the hardware store, but I don't know about the seal. Let's just be careful and not damage either, okay?


    ^This is what the shaft looks like without its housing. There is only plastic on metal, so we will need to make sure this thing is *perfect* when it goes back together.


    ^The tool I chose for the task. STEEL wheel ONLY, NOT STAINLESS. You want to very slowly move through the part, making even passes up and down, and making very sure to get the opening behind the inside seal but NOT hit the seal. You can't buy this part separately. Take your time, making motions like honing a steel cylinder in a block. Do this in little bits, and test fit at least as many times as you can stand it. This thing will hone quickly if you lay into it, and you can't add back material. So be patient.


    ^You can still see a little of the worst part of the galling. This isn't really important - the fit is much more important.


    ^Test fit it backwards, too - you want to make sure that you're being even in removing material, so you don't want to find out that one side fits better than the other. If you do, obviously, work on the side that's still too tight.


    ^Reinstalled - fits perfectly. It should slide on smoothly, there should be no wiggle at all, and it should rotate freely. Clean it up, take a soft brush to the plastic shaft for basic cleaning, apply a little silicone grease to the moving surfaces, the o-ring, and the seal, and reinstall. Torque spec = Gutentite, the typical German small bolt spec.


    ^Proper orientation of the spring on the arm.
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    ^Basic pic of reinstalling the arm with spring. Install both at the same time. Make sure the flap is in the low RPM position before you do this. Test fit the arm that it fits against the stopper, or better, just anti-clockwise of the stopper at low RPM position, to give you a little wiggle room. Twist firmly; it won't be difficult now that you're only fighting the spring and not massive stiction.


    ^Fully seat the spring on the housing.


    ^And reinsert the bolt into the arm/shaft, holding the arm in place. I used a little blue loctite on everything. Voila! Operate it and make sure you're happy with it.


    ^Reinstall the other two to their original positions. The actuator arm just pops back onto the flap arm. Fingers should suffice here.


    ^This is a couple dyno plots with the flap stuck in each position. 50-60WHP Lost! Holy moly! Not any more! Notice that the meeting point is pretty much exactly where JHM put their crossover. And keep in mind that the GTech Pro RR has a little difficulty reading the engine speed on this car. I have to put the headlights and foglights on to help it get even this good, so the RPM's are actually a bit higher. I ran the tach right up to a millisecond before fuel cut, or hit it on one or two occasions so far. And for you nitpickers, yes; there are different dates with different quantities of fuel and stuff in the car, hence the weight difference. So no free lunch there. Also note little is gained by the low RPM position compared to the huge gains made by the high RPM position. Not surprisingly, the butt dyno doesn't really notice the flap stuck in high RPM position, but it feels like a slug stuck in low.
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    Re: DIY: Intake Manifold Flap Stuck? Unstick it for almost free! See and Read Here

    nice work, I'll have to take a look on my desktop to see the pictures better.
    You represent the idiocy of today.

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    Great write up! How would I check to see if I have a stuck flap currently? I'll be tearing down the front end in the next few weeks and will add this to the work list.
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    I just made sure mine moves, and it does but at low RPM the arm goes to what you say is the high RPM position and having a friend rev the engine to 5k the flap moves to what you say is the low RPM position. My question is, did you possibly misword it or is mine somehow connected improperly? If it is connected improperly what part of the mechanism would allow it to work backwards?
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    I could have it backward, but I really thought I had it right. Either way; if you can't move it by hand with the car off, it's probably not moving with the car on. It's not very difficult.
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    Just wanted to make sure it does move and I thought for a second somehow if was backwards haha. Thanks!
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    Here's the deal. His description was backwards. If working properly, the flap will be closed (LEFT POSITION) when the car is running as intake suction of the motor pulls the flapper shut VIA a pneumatic actuator at any RPM from idle up to 5,000. It's 'normally open' or 'fails open' thanks to the spring on the actuator arm so when the car is off the flapper will default at the 'open position' AKA designed 5,000+ RPM position. What happens at 5,000 RPM's is an electro-pneumatic solenoid valve (bolted on the front of manifold) opens and vents the suction so the flapper can open up VIA the spring. Besides being stuck you may have a faulty actuator, electro-pneumatic valve or air lines which will prevent the flapper from pulling closed.

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    I got it backwards too ;) OP can change that on original postings and this my friends is a great DIY :)

    Thanks Squiddy for the awesome pics and write-up :D
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    superb write up. i know the power difference was there when its not workin didnt know it was that much.
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    You're welcome. And that's on my level of tune, JHM 93, piggies, and exhaust. So it's probably more for anyone with more mods. Headed out this morning, so I will work on that error some other time.
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    So being brand new with S4s...what is the best way for me to identify if I have this problem? Writeup is great, would just have no idea that I am experiencing this sort of problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebaytola View Post
    So being brand new with S4s...what is the best way for me to identify if I have this problem? Writeup is great, would just have no idea that I am experiencing this sort of problem
    Turn engine off. Open hood. Remove forward-most engine cover that says 4.2 V8 (lift up). Grab the little arm pictured (you won't have as much room with your lock carrier and bumper attached to your car as I had with mine off). If you can rotate it, it's probably working. If you can't move it without feeling like you're going to break that little plastic arm, it's probably stuck. If it moves, but it's a PITA, it's probably stuck. If it moves but just takes a little effort, it's probably fine. Easy test, takes 5 minutes. Also there are probably 20 different videos on youtube of how to test it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebaytola View Post
    So being brand new with S4s...what is the best way for me to identify if I have this problem? Writeup is great, would just have no idea that I am experiencing this sort of problem
    Dirtracer603 did a video to test if your intake flapper was failing http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...97#post8767397

    post #11 good luck ;)
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    Thanks and thanks...I don't have the issue. Strange, but good to know!

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    awesome write up and great information thanks squiddy

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    If you do not have a wire brush and such, rubbing alcohol works as well, just keep rubbing at it with a q-tip and all that galling comes off from within the cylinder.


    For those who dont know, rubbing alcohol is abrasive...hence the name ;)

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    I need to to this. Mine is completely stuck to the point the arm came off the flap.

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    This actually worked. Thanks OP. I know it's an old thread.

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    This has been on my to do list for awhile... finally got around to it and wow, what a difference. My throttle response is much smoother.

    My flapper was pretty badly seized. I used a dremel with a brush type head to slowly clean it out.

    Thanks for the write-up op!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Anger View Post
    This actually worked. Thanks OP. I know it's an old thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by jimichunga View Post
    This has been on my to do list for awhile... finally got around to it and wow, what a difference. My throttle response is much smoother.

    My flapper was pretty badly seized. I used a dremel with a brush type head to slowly clean it out.

    Thanks for the write-up op!
    No problem, gentlemen; I'm glad it was easy to follow for you. Once again, I am back from the dead to lurk a bit . . .
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    Found this morning after doing the flapper cleansing and wanted to share. I split the intake since after I did the cap cleaning the rattle was still present. Very glad I did as I found something that could have been a HUGE disaster. So just in case, here's what I found for all you. Hopefully this is another surprise the toad of a P.O. left me and not something the manifold does over time. (She has 141k on the clock).

    If you look at the pics below, there's (4) gold T30 screws circled in red on the upper and (4) gold T30 screws circled in red on the lower intake manifold plenum halves that when I separated the intake, I found them not only loose but extracted about 1/16" out of the threaded holes. After a brief but much needed anxiety attack I tightened them back down and torqued them to about 20 in-lbs with (blue locktight as well) then conducted a thorough cleaning throughout the entire intake manifold.

    BTW...that partial polish job on the upper intake plenum ports was properly finished and done to the lower, I didn't leave it like that. Just wanted to take the pic before I got too involved ;)



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    If it's not too late, you can go ahead and remove those screws altogether. They were used by Audi when building the manifold, and were only installed to keep the parts together while the sealants cured. This is not uncommon, and they absolutely can work themselves all the way loose and get lost into the engine.
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    Thanks for the input Squiddy, I probably will. I plan on going back in to replace the check valves and install the JHM spacers here soon. For what its worth, mine at least must have been contributing to rattling as my engine is 60% quieter now so I'm still happy with the results. I originally checked it after just cleaning the flapper cap with no improvement, but after the Loctite and 8 screws torqued she's much more tight and quiet.

    I posted that info in the other thread also ("warm start rattle...") just in case so people can see it and know to check the screws if they're in there. I didn't realize (in the 14 pgs of that thread) that someone mentioned the (correction) T15 screws (I posted T30 which is what is the torx screws to split the manifold). That's my bad for redundancy, but maybe at least it can help prevent people from missing it as I did.

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    Thanks for the DIY, Squiddy. Is there any way you can resurrect the pics in the original post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickFix View Post
    Thanks for the DIY, Squiddy. Is there any way you can resurrect the pics in the original post?
    This was a good DIY, hopefully Squiddy can re-host the pictures. If not here here is one just as good, also explains how it works.
    http://forums.quattroworld.com/a8/msgs/44689.phtml

    It was very easy and all I did was clean/lube the end of the rod as in the link above, I didn't need to remove the shaft or anything like that.

    All you wanted to know about this issue and MUCH more

    Links with picts of the IM split in two showing the 'flapper'
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nifold+flapper
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ntake+manifold
    http://www.imploding.com/home/s4-stu...ntake-flap-mod

    Following links describe the problem and it's effects on power before and after 5k and why it may make noise even after fixed (freed up)
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...e+manifold+diy
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nifold+flapper
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nifold+flapper
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...ntake+manifold
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...nifold+flapper
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    Can this be done just by removing the top part of the intake manifold? The flaps are killing my low end torque! Re hosting the pictures would be awesome as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinye77137 View Post
    Can this be done just by removing the top part of the intake manifold? The flaps are killing my low end torque! Re hosting the pictures would be awesome as well
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    it is one flap and yes it can be done easily by leaving the bottom half on...

    bottom half of IM, shows flapper... they seem to freeze on the front bushing where the spring is located, take pics, make note... remove the bolt, arm and spring then if you spay some wd40 or whatever you prefer to use, you can usually free it up w/o breaking something



    top half, just cleaned...



    top half... sorry, mine is modded... so yours wont look identical to mine




    nice shot of the front of the IM removed for a better shot as to what to expect in there...

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    if you guys need more pics... let me know ill look and see what i got
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    I did this on my 04 while replacing main rad, still getting that start up rattle. Not close to one it was, could it be the black pump housing( unsure of actual name for it) with the rod connected to the accuator spring not working correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TarlCabot View Post
    if you guys need more pics... let me know ill look and see what i got
    Thanks for the information. But my question is is it possible to just take the top half of the manifold off while leaving the bottom half still intact with the engine to loosen up the flaps? Im not trying to take out the IM again since it was a PITA when doing the oil check valve service.

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    yup, very easy, just pull the fuel rail with injectors and then the 8 bolts that hold the halves together and 2 vac lines... iirc
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarlCabot View Post
    yup, very easy, just pull the fuel rail with injectors and then the 8 bolts that hold the halves together and 2 vac lines... iirc
    Thank you! Will do this on the weekend. No need for gasket right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinye77137 View Post
    Thank you! Will do this on the weekend. No need for gasket right?
    i used peramtex black to re-seal the halves, there is no gasket
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarlCabot View Post
    it is one flap and yes it can be done easily by leaving the bottom half on...

    bottom half of IM, shows flapper... they seem to freeze on the front bushing where the spring is located, take pics, make note... remove the bolt, arm and spring then if you spay some wd40 or whatever you prefer to use, you can usually free it up w/o breaking something



    top half, just cleaned...



    top half... sorry, mine is modded... so yours wont look identical to mine




    nice shot of the front of the IM removed for a better shot as to what to expect in there...

    How did you modify the short runner intake opening to make that nice smooth transition instead of that hard step?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ottocycle View Post
    How did you modify the short runner intake opening to make that nice smooth transition instead of that hard step?
    industrial jb weld, dremel, heat and oil resistant engine paint and a lot of time and patience :)
    smoothed out the long runners too, also did the throttle body elbo... hopefully it will show when i hit the track this year



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