Key fob programming 2002 Allroad

[vtraudt]

Can't seem to get the VAGcom procedures to work.
I have ONE key and fob (so I cannot do the "2 key" procedure), plus a new fob.
i tried any of suggested (in VCDS) methods, but does not 'take'.
Shows 0 keys coded right now. Tried to enter "1" for total keys, not working. Tried "2" for total keys, pressed 'unlock' on both, not working.

Suggestions?

[audifirst]

I thought you are Senior Member with Four Rings on Audizine ?

[audifirst]

I am assuming your allroad have immobilizer
you need to follow this procedure
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/key-matching.html

[rollerton]

Forget all that junk I just quoted, it's confusing, read this:
The important part is that you don't enter the "total number of remotes you are adapting" - you do THAT when you are adapting the immobilizer- different procedure.
What you do is follow the instructions and enter "1" for the 1st key, "2" for key #2 and so on.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...mming-with-VAG


Also, here is some helpful info for your programming... In order to find if your remote works with your car and you can use it, go to "Measuring Block" 006 - Go! and look at field 2... There should be four bits in this field (all 0000)... Hit a button on your remote, one of the bits should now change to a 1 depending on the button you hit

also:
Procedure for matching remote controls to most VW & Audi vehicles:

Under "Select Control Module"

"Select"

"46 - Cent. Conv." or "35 - Cent. Locking" (depending on year and make/model)

"Adaptation - 10"

First enter channel "00" as this will set all settings back to factory.

Enter channel "01" (Again "21 depending on make/model).

"Read"

This is supposed to display the number of currently stored remotes in "Stored Value". But a lot of people actually get 0. Like I did...

According to ross-tech, this is what you must do next which is the part that messes everyone up - "Enter your total number of keys up to a maximum of 4 (including any existing keys) in 'New Value.'" Do not do that.
Instead, for your first remote just put in a "1" and finish the procedure.

Start again with your next remote And when you adapt the 2nd remote just put in a 2!! instead of a one- (this is telling the module that you are assigning that "#2 memory slot" to this remote.)

[vtraudt]

I thought you are Senior Member with Four Rings on Audizine ?

yeah, but NO VETERAN. Only those dudes know how to program a key for an immo car! Stuff like that is one level above Senior (I assume Seniors are age 50-70, Veterans are age 70-90 and automatically qualified to drive a Cadillac or Buick).

[vtraudt]

Forget all that junk I just quoted, it's confusing, read this:....

Now THAT is true Veteran talk. Thanks a bundle. Will give it a shot tomorrow.

Still need to plan a cross country trip to the nearest capable locksmith next week to lasercut those darn keys (meanwhile collected blanks for 4 VAG car that need duplicate keys made, so its worth the trip).

[mat68046]

Forget all that junk I just quoted, it's confusing, read this:
The important part is that you don't enter the "total number of remotes you are adapting" - you do THAT when you are adapting the immobilizer- different procedure.
What you do is follow the instructions and enter "1" for the 1st key, "2" for key #2 and so on.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...mming-with-VAG


Also, here is some helpful info for your programming... In order to find if your remote works with your car and you can use it, go to "Measuring Block" 006 - Go! and look at field 2... There should be four bits in this field (all 0000)... Hit a button on your remote, one of the bits should now change to a 1 depending on the button you hit

also:
Procedure for matching remote controls to most VW & Audi vehicles:

Under "Select Control Module"

"Select"

"46 - Cent. Conv." or "35 - Cent. Locking" (depending on year and make/model)

"Adaptation - 10"

First enter channel "00" as this will set all settings back to factory.

Enter channel "01" (Again "21 depending on make/model).

"Read"

This is supposed to display the number of currently stored remotes in "Stored Value". But a lot of people actually get 0. Like I did...

According to ross-tech, this is what you must do next which is the part that messes everyone up - "Enter your total number of keys up to a maximum of 4 (including any existing keys) in 'New Value.'" Do not do that.
Instead, for your first remote just put in a "1" and finish the procedure.

Start again with your next remote And when you adapt the 2nd remote just put in a 2!! instead of a one- (this is telling the module that you are assigning that "#2 memory slot" to this remote.)

Key remote matching:
For my C5 Allroad, in VCDS it's 35-Central Lock, Measuring Block 08, Group 07 field #2 that gives the bit field of 4 "0's". Field #1 shows # of matched remotes which remains 0 until you press a button on a "good" remote. When you do press a button on the active remote, field 1 changes to total # of remotes and field 2 will change 1 bit in the field to "1". Button must be pressed for a couple of seconds to give the controller and VCDS time to react.
I'm on the second remote I've tried to adapt to this car with no luck. I'm not referring to the immo3 matching, that worked fine with a new fob. I'm talking about the remote lock functions. Found out that remote #1, although the FCC ID and p/n's were identical, the FREQUENCY was not. My car operates on 315 Mhz and the new remote I got is a 433.92 Mhz unit...my bad there. However, just got another used remote section where the freq, fcc and p/n are identical and still no luck. Group 7 showed nothing when I pressed a button on the second used remote. Yes, the battery is good....
NOT happy. At least this Group 7 step is a good way to determine quickly if your car even sees a remote before attempting programming, if I read this correctly.
I do have the login code for the dash, thanks to K0mpresd, but this group 7 thing doesn't see the remote anyway....May have go to Autozone or someplace that sells aftermarket remotes/batteries and has a reader kiosk to test remotes to see if this second used remote is defective.
What else could it be?

[mat68046]

Well, I'm my own worst enemy. Suffix on the remote p/n was different (aging eyes). 4D0 837 231 P is what I have/ need. Got a 4D0 837 231 M! FCC ID same: MYT8Z0837231. Frequency same: 315mhz....
Anyone have an extra one of these?!

[vtraudt]

4D0 837 231 P is what I have/ need. FCC ID : MYT8Z0837231. Frequency 315mhz....
Anyone have an extra one of these?!

Will check the fobs I have.

[mat68046]

Will check the fobs I have.

Foiled by the "P" !

Thanks, vtraudt. PM me if you find one.

[rollerton]

Hmmm. I have 4D0 837 231E and 4d0 837 231M and both are 315mhz and both work with my 2002 S6's .

[vtraudt]

Foiled by the "P" !

Thanks, vtraudt. PM me if you find one.

Does not seem to be the right one for you
4D0 837 231 E

This is one fob I have (2001 AR)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/luj4xsv35gm4hvr/IMG_4415.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xedfjo3cgdgiytr/IMG_4417.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1bqc0rpgyzllpk/IMG_4419.JPG

[vtraudt]

Different car (2001 AR Tiptronic).
Came with only the plastic valet key.
Have 2 new remote with blank keys now.
Possible to program the 2 new remotes?
If so, what procedure? Tried to enter 00 in 35 module, adaption to clear. Then enter "1" in new value, test, save and press open or close button on the first remote. Nothing.
Tried again with the other new remote. Nothing.