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    Veteran Member Four Rings fR3ZNO's Avatar
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    2.8 Precat O2 Sensor Replacement DIY

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    I just got around to replacing my precat O2 sensors today. The install was pretty easy. So I figured I'd write up my first DIY on how to replace your precat O2 sensors.
    Now you might ask, why would I need to replace my O2 sensors? Well, they are considered a maintenance item by some people since they fail slowly and may not throw a CEL even though they are not working at their peak efficiency. In my case, I was still getting terrible gas mileage even after fixing all of the usual suspects such as spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter, and cleaning the MAF sensor. In a fuel injected vehicle the precat O2 sensors measure the oxygen in the exhaust. The ECU then uses this information to adjust fuel/air ratio. The precat O2 sensors are constantly switching from 0.1V to 0.7V. The ECU then interprets this signal as "lean" or "rich". When the O2 sensor starts to fail, it will tell the ECU to add more fuel when it is not needed (or run "rich"). This is known as having a "lazy" O2 sensor. So I investigated by checking my precat O2 sensor waveforms and sure enough my two precat O2 sensors were getting "lazy". This will result in crappy MPG among other things. In some cases, if you run your car rich long enough you can also ruin your catalytic converters.

    Onto the DIY! (excuse me for some of the blurry pictures)

    Tools Required:
    Crow's foot (specialty socket for O2 sensors)
    3/8" Drive Extension (about 2' worth)
    1/2" to 3/8" Drive Converter (not required)
    1/2" or 3/8" Drive Ratchet (I used a 1/2" drive since it was longer and get more torque on it)
    Flat Head Screwdriver
    Phillips Screwdriver
    10mm wrench
    Scissors or Wire Cutter
    Anti Seize Compound





    First things first, remove the negative terminal from your battery.


    I started on the driver's side. This side is the easiest in terms of getting to the sensor.


    Unscrew the coolant reservoir from it's bracket.


    Once unscrewed, look underneath and unclip the sensor. Use your flathead to undo the clip. Then swing it to the side and rest it on the car.


    Now you'll be able to get to the O2 sensor. The sensor connection is sitting in a bracket attached to the firewall. Remove the connection and undo it.




    Take note of how your sensor wire is routed. It may be ziptied to the rest of the engine harness and may require snipping to free it. Then fish out the end of the sensor from the bundle of wires so that it's free.


    Take your extensions, crow's foot, and ratchet. Make sure that the socket is securely on the O2 sensor before you start loosening it. The sensor may need a soaking with penetrating oil. However, the sensor should come out easily. It may take some initial force to break it loose, but once it's loose you can loosen it the rest of the by hand.





    As you can see by the color of the sensor, I was running rich.


    New Sensor


    Take your new sensor and apply a thin amount of anti seize. Don't go overboard with it. If you get any in the end of the sensor, you'll ruin it. Your sensor may come with a little bit of anti seize already applied.




    Screw in the new sensor by hand then use your crow's foot to get it tight.

    Clip the sensor back into the harness.

    Route your sensor wire in a similar fashion that the old one was in. Use colorful zipties to reattach and keep away from hot parts of the exhaust, etc.


    Reattach the coolant reservoir sensor and screw reservoir back into the bracket.

    Let's move onto the passenger side.



    Unscrew the clamps on the throttle body boot and remove it.
    It may take a bit of twisting and force to remove the boot. Remove one end at a time.






    Unclip the fuel lines and EVAP lines out of their bracket and move them to the side to get access to the sensor.




    Again noting the routing of your old sensor, free it from any zipties. Undo the sensor from the connection at the firewall and fish the end of the sensor out.




    Take your crow's foot and extension again and break the sensor loose. Loosen the rest of the way by hand.


    Remove old sensor. Screw in your new sensor after applying a tiny bit of anti seize again. Remember, don't go overboard with the stuff!!

    Route the new sensor wire the same the way the old one was. Secure with colorful ziptie.


    Clip sensor end into engine harness. Clip the connection back into the bracket on the firewall.


    Put fuel and EVAP lines back into bracket.


    Reattach throttle body boot. Make sure the clamps are loose. It may take a little bit of persuasion before it gets back into place.

    Tighten clamps on the throttle body boot.

    Reattach negative terminal to battery.

    Congratulations! You're done. Go and enjoy your improved fuel economy. I know I will.

    If you have any questions you can shoot me a PM.

    Moderators, this is my first DIY so if I posted in the wrong section, I'm sorry and I hope you sticky this in the DIY section. Thanks!
    "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." - Ferdinand Porsche

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    I created an account on here just to thank you for posting this detailed write-up. I need to do this to my girlfriend's 2.8 A4. What kind of MPG increases do you expect, what are your before and after averages? Right now I think we average maybe 20/21 MPG combined highway and city driving.

    Where did you purchase the sensors from? I had been thinking of buying the sensors without the connectors and attaching the connectors myself. Do you think the extra money is worth it to just buy the full sensor itself?

    Thanks!

    EDIT: And to clarify we have thrown the pre-cat O2 sensor code/s. Read and scanned it with our VAGCOM, so I do know it is the sensor. We replaced most of the vacuum lines and that helped clear up a few other misc. codes.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings fR3ZNO's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Chaz| View Post
    I created an account on here just to thank you for posting this detailed write-up. I need to do this to my girlfriend's 2.8 A4. What kind of MPG increases do you expect, what are your before and after averages? Right now I think we average maybe 20/21 MPG combined highway and city driving.

    Where did you purchase the sensors from? I had been thinking of buying the sensors without the connectors and attaching the connectors myself. Do you think the extra money is worth it to just buy the full sensor itself?

    Thanks!

    EDIT: And to clarify we have thrown the pre-cat O2 sensor code/s. Read and scanned it with our VAGCOM, so I do know it is the sensor. We replaced most of the vacuum lines and that helped clear up a few other misc. codes.
    You're welcome! I haven't driven on a full tank with the new sensors yet to calculate my MPG yet. But before this I was getting 16mpg about 70% highway and 30% city. My computer is telling me my average is about 20mpg but I don't really trust what it tells me. I wouldn't recommend the universal O2 sensors that you are talking about. You'd be better off just buying the Bosch brand O2 sensors like the ones I bought. I got them from http://ECStuning.com but there are other places you can purchase them from
    "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." - Ferdinand Porsche

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