To all RS5 owners:Everyone keeps telling me RS5 has no torque or only 317 lb-ft...WTF

[1sickrs5]

I really want to get an RS5 , but all of my friends and all of those magazines reviews said it has only 317lb-ft torque which for them is funny for 450hp car. WTF is wrong with them?? Can some of you guys who own RS5 tell me about that torque lack if it really presents at all? I am sick of listening ppl telling me about its not worth to have a 450hp car with 317 torque...pls tell me they are all wrong and maybe jealous cause the car is beauty.

[A4A4A4]

I really want to get an RS5 , but all of my friends and all of those magazines reviews said it has only 317lb-ft torque which for them is funny for 450hp car. WTF is wrong with them?? Can some of you guys who own RS5 tell me about that torque lack if it really presents at all? I am sick of listening ppl telling me about its not worth to have a 450hp car with 317 torque...pls tell me they are all wrong and maybe jealous cause the car is beauty.

Why would your friends be jealous of a car you don't own yet?

[bknewtype]

Why would your friends be jealous of a car you don't own yet?

u know i was just gonna say the same thing

not to mention if its a car that you like why would u let your friends decide whats good for u or not?

[DaveyDave424]

nothing funny about a car that runs the r8 engine [v8]

[A4A4A4]

nothing funny about a car that runs the r8 engine [v8]

Not the same engine at all.

The RS5's V8 actually shares more with the R8's V10 than the R8's V8 (despite the fact it has two less cylinders).

[toaster]

i think they are jealous of his az handle...

[1sickrs5]

Why would your friends be jealous of a car you don't own yet?

Hope they wont..but I am just thinking since they told me its not worth the money..going to own it in 3 mnths

u know i was just gonna say the same thing

not to mention if its a car that you like why would u let your friends decide whats good for u or not?

I wont let them decide but wanted to ask RS5 owners about the torque...how they can feel and describe it ,is there a lack since its 317lb-ft or its doing good?

[forcefed6.4ford]

You do realize that the engine can spin quite quickly?

[IinsureU]

I really want to get an RS5 , but all of my friends and all of those magazines reviews said it has only 317lb-ft torque which for them is funny for 450hp car. WTF is wrong with them?? Can some of you guys who own RS5 tell me about that torque lack if it really presents at all? I am sick of listening ppl telling me about its not worth to have a 450hp car with 317 torque...pls tell me they are all wrong and maybe jealous cause the car is beauty.

Where in CA are you and have you driven one yet ?!?

[Mops@Nemesis]

The RS is so sexy, beautiful and mean. And plenty of power for about anyone. I would pick one up with no reservation at all.

[dazed1]

Where in CA are you and have you driven one yet ?!?

DOT

Drive it. or sit with someone who has one and knows how to drive it.

What do you drive now? What all have you driven?

Yes, I thought the torque was low on paper too, but after driving it 1000 miles, it just goes. There's no stopping it.

[MBrock]

What do your friends want you to get? Whatever it is…….get that.

If your looking for 0-60 times you are looking in the wrong place.

[superswiss]

8500 rpm redline with a max piston speed that's right up there with Formula One engines. That's really all that needs to be said. Those who don't understand the concept of a high-rev engine will argue the low torque on paper. Having said that, if you are not comfortable with reving the engine to make power, the RS5 is not for you.

[GSS5]

the current m3 is factory rated at 295ft-lbs, and is considered to be one of the best everyday performance cars on the road today. is it the fastest? no. is it fast enough for everyday driving? beyond doubt. same should apply to rs5.

/thread.

[yas]

Drive one.

/thread

[1sickrs5]

Where in CA are you and have you driven one yet ?!?

In Riverside and hhaven tdrive 1 yet

The RS is so sexy, beautiful and mean. And plenty of power for about anyone. I would pick one up with no reservation at all.

+1 I am on the same page Mops

DOT

Drive it. or sit with someone who has one and knows how to drive it.

What do you drive now? What all have you driven?

Yes, I thought the torque was low on paper too, but after driving it 1000 miles, it just goes. There's no stopping it.

Now I have an E46 M3 coupe with SMG tranny. Think I'll do a huge upgrade with RS5..

What do your friends want you to get? Whatever it is…….get that.

If your looking for 0-60 times you are looking in the wrong place.

I dont but I think 4.5 is fantastic

[1sickrs5]

so for my understanding without driving one 317 lb-ft torque is not less for this car..thanks to all for the inputs

[DinB]

In Riverside and hhaven tdrive 1 yet



+1 I am on the same page Mops



Now I have an E46 M3 coupe with SMG tranny. Think I'll do a huge upgrade with RS5..



I dont but I think 4.5 is fantastic

O-60 is probably closer to 4.3 based on a few tests out there. APR ran a 4.1 I believe, but that might have been a fluke.

[dazed1]

so for my understanding without driving one 317 lb-ft torque is not less for this car..thanks to all for the inputs

You wont regret it at all. At first I thought that with a high revving engine, it would take quite a bit for power to be felt and for it to speed up. But you won't even realize the lower torque. Drive one if you can. You won't change your mind. You'll keep it :)

[visualguy]

If you want low-end torque, why not get the S5? Beyond the torque, the S5 has a 6MT option and also adaptive suspension with different levels of firmness which you can control. Both are missing from the RS5 model sold in the US. Getting a high-revving "race car" type engine is the whole point of the RS5. If you have no use for that (such as if you don't go to the race track), then you're better off with the S5 in my opinion, and you also save some money...

[ssv22]

Get a C63 coupe/BS if you want more torque.

[AZ Audi]

Have you driven an RS5?

[Marshall_Placid]

Once you have delivery of the RS5 (in your stated 3 months' time)...

Shift to "sport" mode, and it will stay at around 3k rpm.

As previous members stated, it's a NA engine, not a turbo/supercharged engine.

It is VERY, VERY fun to drive, and it is very fun to keep revving it at 3k to 4k rpm.

At that range, it will be very fun to drive, with increased torque and power.

When you do get it, remember that you can have the car in "sport" mode without ever needing to change the drive select to dynamic mode.

My assumption is that your friends don't know much about the RS5, and only know it through a few articles about its specs.

After all, it's the SECOND RS in the last 5 to 6 years (after the TT-RS) in North America (to my best knowledge).

When I first ordered the RS5, I knew absolutely nothing about it except that it was a limited production car, and it was gorgeous.

When you are standing as a pedestrian looking at an incoming RS5 passing you... you'll know...

I actually didn't look at its specs.

Then, when I received delivery.... WOW!!! No regrets.

When you get it, let your friends ride in it (in sports mode) and they will ALSO want to get one except they will be lucky to land an allocation.

[Got No Game]

^ +1 Well said Marshall. You have to drive one to truly appreciate it. You simply cannot speculate based on paper specs. I cannot count the number of times people (of all ages) pull up next to me and give the thumbs up. It's not over-the-top attention, just a nod that says "well done". I'm certainly not the show-offy type, but people appreciate that this car is a little different.

[BestAudiFirst]

someone please lend the RS5 to him so he can go for a quick spin so he can make this decision .....

[DaveyDave424]

Not the same engine at all.

The RS5's V8 actually shares more with the R8's V10 than the R8's V8 (despite the fact it has two less cylinders).

According to audi , it's the same engine

[A4A4A4]

According to audi , it's the same engine

Perhaps more accurately, the R8’s V-8 might wish it were this V-8. Stephan Reil, the head of development at Quattro, is quick to correct us when we wrongly assume that the RS5’s engine is the same as the one installed in Audi’s supercar. “The R8’s V-8 is of a slightly older generation. The RS5’s V-8 shares little or nothing with [that] engine. It is more powerful than the R8’s V-8 by virtue of the lessons learned from the 5.2-liter V-10.”

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review

[a5sport]

The RS5 is considered more of a track/road racing car than a 0-60 car. Low end torque is not as much of a concern in a car designed with track time in mind.

Torque only gets you going...it is raw horsepower that gets you to top speed...and keeps you there. Hence the reason the RS5 has a much higher top speed than the S5.

In the end, it is the power to weight ratio that really matters. The RS5 weighs 4009 lbs. with 8.9 lbs. per HP. The S5 weighs 3858 lbs. with 11.6 lbs. per HP.

The RS5 achieves its peak torque @ 4000 RPM, whereas the S5 is there @ 2900 RPM. The S5 will probably beat the RS5 up to about 50 mph, but the RS5 will leave it in the dust from then on.

You will also find that Formula 1 engines do not have a lot of torque...but a lot of HP. But here again, it is the power to weight ratio that comes into play here. Plenty of that in F1.

If you want that push me back in the seat feeling for daily driving, get an S5, otherwise go for the RS5.

And whatever you do...drive an RS5, and an S5, and make your decision that way. Forget what your "friends" think. It's your money...not theirs.

[DaveyDave424]

I can say I was truly scared being a passenger in the rs5 while the driver was pushing it on the fwy.

I guess the guys down in audi were wrong about it being the same engine, tools

[superswiss]

The S5 will probably beat the RS5 up to about 50 mph, but the RS5 will leave it in the dust from then on.

I haven't seen a comparison, but this is probably true if you don't use launch control. With launch control I would think the RS5 leaves the S5 in the dust from the get go.

[Lavoisier]

My previous car was a Lexus IS-F with 416 crank HP and 376 ft lb torque. The engine was a 5.0L NA V8. Do I miss the low end torque with the RS5? Sure, but the RS5 is a more capable car overall. It has a Car & Driver Lightning Lap time lower then either the M3 or IS-F (probably mostly due to AWD since it is heavier). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnuAUSeVPFE If you don't have some places where you can let the RS5 out a bit, you'll be frustrated if you're used to low end torque. However, if there are some places near you that you can drive it aggressively, it's a blast. And. of course, as others have pointed out, the looks and styling of the RS5 make it a real head turner.

[M3_WC]

Drive the car correctly...you won't have a problem. High revving engines are fantastic. By the way the M3 has 295tq.

[1sickrs5]

You wont regret it at all. At first I thought that with a high revving engine, it would take quite a bit for power to be felt and for it to speed up. But you won't even realize the lower torque. Drive one if you can. You won't change your mind. You'll keep it :)

If you want low-end torque, why not get the S5? Beyond the torque, the S5 has a 6MT option and also adaptive suspension with different levels of firmness which you can control. Both are missing from the RS5 model sold in the US. Getting a high-revving "race car" type engine is the whole point of the RS5. If you have no use for that (such as if you don't go to the race track), then you're better off with the S5 in my opinion, and you also save some money...

Once you have delivery of the RS5 (in your stated 3 months' time)...

Shift to "sport" mode, and it will stay at around 3k rpm.

As previous members stated, it's a NA engine, not a turbo/supercharged engine.

It is VERY, VERY fun to drive, and it is very fun to keep revving it at 3k to 4k rpm.

At that range, it will be very fun to drive, with increased torque and power.

When you do get it, remember that you can have the car in "sport" mode without ever needing to change the drive select to dynamic mode.

My assumption is that your friends don't know much about the RS5, and only know it through a few articles about its specs.

After all, it's the SECOND RS in the last 5 to 6 years (after the TT-RS) in North America (to my best knowledge).

When I first ordered the RS5, I knew absolutely nothing about it except that it was a limited production car, and it was gorgeous.

When you are standing as a pedestrian looking at an incoming RS5 passing you... you'll know...

I actually didn't look at its specs.

Then, when I received delivery.... WOW!!! No regrets.

When you get it, let your friends ride in it (in sports mode) and they will ALSO want to get one except they will be lucky to land an allocation.

^ +1 Well said Marshall. You have to drive one to truly appreciate it. You simply cannot speculate based on paper specs. I cannot count the number of times people (of all ages) pull up next to me and give the thumbs up. It's not over-the-top attention, just a nod that says "well done". I'm certainly not the show-offy type, but people appreciate that this car is a little different.

The RS5 is considered more of a track/road racing car than a 0-60 car. Low end torque is not as much of a concern in a car designed with track time in mind.

Torque only gets you going...it is raw horsepower that gets you to top speed...and keeps you there. Hence the reason the RS5 has a much higher top speed than the S5.

In the end, it is the power to weight ratio that really matters. The RS5 weighs 4009 lbs. with 8.9 lbs. per HP. The S5 weighs 3858 lbs. with 11.6 lbs. per HP.

The RS5 achieves its peak torque @ 4000 RPM, whereas the S5 is there @ 2900 RPM. The S5 will probably beat the RS5 up to about 50 mph, but the RS5 will leave it in the dust from then on.

You will also find that Formula 1 engines do not have a lot of torque...but a lot of HP. But here again, it is the power to weight ratio that comes into play here. Plenty of that in F1.

If you want that push me back in the seat feeling for daily driving, get an S5, otherwise go for the RS5.

And whatever you do...drive an RS5, and an S5, and make your decision that way. Forget what your "friends" think. It's your money...not theirs.

thank you all of you guys for your inputs. It helped me a lot. Now I cant wait to get my car even more

[TheDapperDriver]

take it for a test drive

[DinB]

Get new friends!

[Mops@Nemesis]

^You have hated on the RS more than all on this planet combined. Just sayin:)


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[DinB]

^You have hated on the RS more than all on this planet combined. Just sayin:)


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Never about the power/performance. As a man of utmost integrity, I only focus on the real deficiencies. :/

[GSS5]

Never about the power/performance. As a man of utmost integrity, I only focus on the real deficiencies. :/

lulz.

[Nobodyman]

15k extra for just 0.5s faster is not worth it. That's the problem with the low torque

[ttusqrl]

15k extra for just 0.5s faster is not worth it. That's the problem with the low torque

You revived a 2 year old thread for that? Go home