Avant H&R spring question

[d.p]

I know H&R has a specific kit for avants, 1.2" lowering all around (29061-2). However the sedan sport spring has 1.5" all around, in theory can you install the sedan sport spring (50361) on an avant to get it lower?


Update, according to H&R the avant springs are longer and stiffer than sedan to make up for the weight difference.

[Okan509]

I know H&R has a specific kit for avants, 1.2" lowering all around (29061-2). However the sedan sport spring has 1.5" all around, in theory can you install the sedan sport spring (50361) on an avant to get it lower?


Update, according to H&R the avant springs are longer and stiffer than sedan to make up for the weight difference.

yeah, I wouldn't recommend it. you'll probably get weird sag issues.

[Stubek]

It has been done, but as you noted from H&R, there is a difference to make up for the weight. If you put sedan springs on the Avant, you will probably drop almost 1/4 inch more.

[tgofsweden]

with H&R 29059-2 or 29059-4 will give you 1.5" all around for Avant

[d.p]

with H&R 29059-2 or 29059-4 will give you 1.5" all around for Avant

Are those avant specific springs? Available in the US?

[audirings4]

Do yourself a favor and buy some coilovers.
The H&R springs will give you reverse rake and kill the quality of your ride.
Ask me how I know.

[tgofsweden]

Are those avant specific springs? Available in the US?

yepp, got those at h-r.com

[d.p]

Do yourself a favor and buy some coilovers.
The H&R springs will give you reverse rake and kill the quality of your ride.
Ask me how I know,

I have had coil overs on numerous past cars and in the end I am not sure I want that ride comfort, or lack thereof at this point in my life. I want no wheel gap and a comfortable ride, is there a such a thing? lol

[d.p]

yepp, got those at h-r.com

Yeah that is the german site, the US site doesn't even list those springs. They have one set for the avant.

[audirings4]

I have had coil overs on numerous past cars and in the end I am not sure I want that ride comfort, or lack thereof at this point in my life. I want no wheel gap and a comfortable ride, is there a such a thing? lol

Not sure what coilovers you've had in the past but that's your best option if you want a lowered/comfortable ride.

[d.p]

JIC, TEIN and PSS9s. Also had tein lowering springs on an e46 m3 and they were money as far as looks and ride went.

H&R street comfortable enough? Any firsthand experience with them?

[jlaudio]

i would go with H&R sports or even more of a compromise is H&R OE's
the sports will give you a 1-2 finger gap while keeping your car's ride quality somewhat in tact. The OE's will be closest to the factory ride quality but a larger wheel gap.

also look at Vogtland coilovers. I had them on my b7 s4 and the ride quality was better than the oem s4 suspension..

[d.p]

Only option for the avant from H&R is the avant sport springs, I have sport package on my avant already so its lower than stock.

[tgofsweden]

another option is Eibach Sportline

[Mod.Kill.Yut.]

@audirings4 how would springs compromise ride comfort if your just lowering your ride?

If anything, it should be a slight improvement

[audirings4]

@audirings4 how would springs compromise ride comfort if your just lowering your ride?

If anything, it should be a slight improvement

You do understand that the stock struts/shock are meant to work with the OEM springs.
When you swap out aftermarket springs with shorter coils and a more aggressive spring rate
your suspension will be stiff (not sporty). Very uncomfortable for a daily driver.

Coilovers on the other hand are designed so the spring/shock combo work hand in hand.

[CloseEncounters]

[QUOTE Update, according to H&R the avant springs are longer and stiffer than sedan to make up for the weight difference.[/QUOTE]

True...I did some pretty intense research before going for the H&R Avant Sport springs and you really do not want to go any lower (especially on the Avant) if you're still using the OEM shocks... My drop was actually just around one inch after the car settled. If you really want to go lower I'd suggest to just go H&R coil-overs if your budget can handle it. You believe you would be quite happy with the drop and handling as I was.

[d.p]

So you have coilovers or the avant springs? If springs can you post a pic ?

[Mod.Kill.Yut.]

You do understand that the stock struts/shock are meant to work with the OEM springs.
When you swap out aftermarket springs with shorter coils and a more aggressive spring rate
your suspension will be stiff (not sporty). Very uncomfortable for a daily driver.

Coilovers on the other hand are designed so the spring/shock combo work hand in hand.

When you put it like that.....

I'm looking into lowering my car and was looking into H&R springs but seeing as it is my daily driver it sounds as if I should cough up the cash for coils

[typer100]

Did you look at the KW Street comfort? http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_streetcomfort.php

Maximum driving comfort for a perfect performance and more driving pleasure
Guarantees more comfort, flexibility and sportive as regular OE sport suspensions
Comfortable adjustment
Better handling due to less body roll
With TÜV tested adjustment range for a individual lowering of 10 to 40 mm
Trapezoid thread for a easy height adjustability
High quality damper components for a long durability
Adjustable rebound damping
Complete delivery content inclusive detailed documentation for a easy use

[tgofsweden]

H&R 29061, right after install

[audirings4]

Did you look at the KW Street comfort? http://kw-suspension.com/us/kw_streetcomfort.php

Maximum driving comfort for a perfect performance and more driving pleasure
Guarantees more comfort, flexibility and sportive as regular OE sport suspensions
Comfortable adjustment
Better handling due to less body roll
With TÜV tested adjustment range for a individual lowering of 10 to 40 mm
Trapezoid thread for a easy height adjustability
High quality damper components for a long durability
Adjustable rebound damping
Complete delivery content inclusive detailed documentation for a easy use

You may want to read this thread about the sagging issues with V1 & V3's.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-rears-sagging

[d.p]

H&R 29061, right after install

Looks good to me. Got a picture of the rear as well?

Anybody have stock sport package avant fender to ground measurements and also avant sport springs fender to ground?

[tgofsweden]

BBS 18x8.5 ET35 with 235/40R18

[Mod.Kill.Yut.]

How do you guys feel about the ST coils?

[MiracleWhips]

Here are some not so great pics of my Sport Pack Avant right after the H&R Avants were installed. Sorry I don't have measurements but it definitely lowered the wagon a bit more than .8" (or whatever 20MM less would be in inches) from Sport height.

The ride height is dead level, but of course the higher front wheel arch gives the perception of rake, which it is truly not. Only CO's will fix that on our B8 Avants.

Overall height and comfort were just fine for the price IMO.





I am on 19"s now, click the link in my sig for pics.

[d.p]

Ty man. Can you measure fender to ground for me ? I am really interested to know the exact difference between stock sport package and the sport springs.

[MiracleWhips]

Ty man. Can you measure fender to ground for me ? I am really interested to know the exact difference between stock sport package and the sport springs.

I can ASAP, will measure next time i am parked on perfectly flat ground. Keep in mind I am on 19's now with 255s, rather than the stock Sport 18"s on 245s.

[d.p]

Exactly what I am looking for, I am stock sport package with 19's and 255's so your measurements will give me the exact drop to expect from these springs.