Best Cup Kit?

[kelz27]

Have my b7 here standing high on stock suspension. What the best Cup kit out there for this car that wont have any axle problems or anything leading to a problem to fill in the tire fender gap?

[A410]

Just get coilovers.

[kelz27]

Pricing is the issue thats why I'm going the other route.

[Skyler@Achtuning]

We have Vogtland cup kits available for $479 before shipping. They give a gap of about 15-20mm, no axle problems. Just give us a call if you would like to place an order.

[rongeur]

Eibach spring and the B5 cups lower nicely. I have it all sitting in the boxes and will post pics once I have time to install after moving.

Eibach springs 280 amazon.com
B5 cups 100 new or 50 on classified now and again

Total 330 for a nice stance
Add 200 for some H&R spacers/lugs if you wish but that will be universal for any method of lowering with stock wheels

[kelz27]

Eibach spring and the B5 cups lower nicely. I have it all sitting in the boxes and will post pics once I have time to install after moving.

Eibach springs 280 amazon.com
B5 cups 100 new or 50 on classified now and again

Total 330 for a nice stance
Add 200 for some H&R spacers/lugs if you wish but that will be universal for any method of lowering with stock wheels

Nice looking forward to see how it comes out.

[Lensch09]

Just buy coilovers.... Do it once, do it right.
-Dan

[kelz27]

Just buy coilovers.... Do it once, do it right.
-Dan

What brands are good and cheap with no problems?

[chris@fifteen52]

ST coils and PM sent

[Hugh@EuropaParts]

Buy nice or buy twice... or three times... or how ever many times you blow your shocks...

Riding around lowered on stock shocks is just going to cost you more money in the long run...

[DRAKLORE]

Revision D?

[TFSI]

Trust me. Get coilovers now.

I first went bilstein/H&R setup, but I regretted not going coilover later on. It will cost you a bit more at the beginning, but you'll be a lot happier.

ST is a good price for coilover.

[Stewy]

+1 for coilovers. Even though you can't afford them now, hold off for a bit and save up the money...you won't regret it.

[Lensch09]

ST coilovers through Fifteen52....Done....
-Dan

[kelz27]

Alright fellas, will it void my warranty with Audi?

[Lensch09]

No clue. Anyone who says otherwise is full of hot air. Ask Audi, get it on record, and go from there.
-Dan

[Jhad]

No it won't. You'll be fine.

[DRAKLORE]

ST coilovers through Fifteen52....Done....
-Dan

X6

[mr shickadance]

Just buy coilovers.... Do it once, do it right.
-Dan

why?

Buy nice or buy twice... or three times... or how ever many times you blow your shocks...

Riding around lowered on stock shocks is just going to cost you more money in the long run...

cup kits have new struts

Trust me. Get coilovers now.

I first went bilstein/H&R setup, but I regretted not going coilover later on. It will cost you a bit more at the beginning, but you'll be a lot happier.

ST is a good price for coilover.

what did you not like about the H&R set up?

+1 for coilovers. Even though you can't afford them now, hold off for a bit and save up the money...you won't regret it.

again why?

No clue. Anyone who says otherwise is full of hot air. Ask Audi, get it on record, and go from there.
-Dan

false, it will void all things relating to your suspension, meaning if you get suspension, and your wheel alignment is off, audi is not covering that, get coils and blow your engine, you will be covered.





cup kits are a good option, to be honest, if you are not planning on slamming your car or tracking your car, a cup kit is all you need, chances are you will not adjust your hieght more than once and coils offer certain headaches that cup kits don't.

forexample, everyone says a trained ape oculd install coils but really, you need to get the ride height correct, and you also need to get your sub frame on strait and centered, two things that certainly you are going to want to pay a premium on vs going the cheapest route possible.


everyone is so againsts cup kits because around here, coils are right of passage, but be honest with yourself, what do you want out of the car....do you want to drop it drop it low, drop it low, drop it low, drop it low mt stance nation? or do you just want a moderate drop to take away the awful 4x4 nature....it its the 2nd choice, then go ahead and get yourself a cup kit.

[chris@fifteen52]

Well there are not a lot of options for cup kits and they do not go low enough for most people and for a few bucks more you can get a set of coils that ride great. A lot of cup kits are geared only for handling so they do not ride very good.

[Lensch09]

You're right, Mr. Shickadance...I don't know shit from applebutter. Why would anyone ever take my advice?
-Dan

[Lensch09]

Cup kits don't ride as nice as a good quality coilover. They also don't have the adjustability as a quality coilover. Needless to say, they aren't as good as a quality coilover.

Second off. If you aren't an Audi warranty adminstrator, you don't have the authority to come in here and tell this gentleman what will void his existing warranty, and what will not.
-Dan

[TFSI]

H&R was a good set, but the only thing that lacked was it doesn't have ability to adjust. The thing I learned after getting coilover is if you play with height, you can set your desired height with better handling. Slammed didn't provide well handling, but few centimeters higher gave me a lot better handling with better stance.

[Ed Gein]

I think shick just likes playing devils advocate sometimes lol.

[DRAKLORE]

I think shick just likes playing devils advocate sometimes lol.

X2

He's been trolling an awful lot lately

[kelz27]

why?



cup kits have new struts



what did you not like about the H&R set up?



again why?



false, it will void all things relating to your suspension, meaning if you get suspension, and your wheel alignment is off, audi is not covering that, get coils and blow your engine, you will be covered.





cup kits are a good option, to be honest, if you are not planning on slamming your car or tracking your car, a cup kit is all you need, chances are you will not adjust your hieght more than once and coils offer certain headaches that cup kits don't.

forexample, everyone says a trained ape oculd install coils but really, you need to get the ride height correct, and you also need to get your sub frame on strait and centered, two things that certainly you are going to want to pay a premium on vs going the cheapest route possible.


everyone is so againsts cup kits because around here, coils are right of passage, but be honest with yourself, what do you want out of the car....do you want to drop it drop it low, drop it low, drop it low, drop it low mt stance nation? or do you just want a moderate drop to take away the awful 4x4 nature....it its the 2nd choice, then go ahead and get yourself a cup kit.

Agreed bro, don't want nothing extreme that why i wanted to go that route. Just wanna take out that ugly gap b/w the tire and fender. Thats why I wanna go the cup kit route, what a good setup in your opinion?

[mr shickadance]

You're right, Mr. Shickadance...I don't know shit from applebutter. Why would anyone ever take my advice?
-Dan

appreciate the tude, all i'm saying is that if something suspension related fails after you install aftermarket suspension then you are going to be fucked, but if it's non suspension related, then you should be fine

[mr shickadance]

Cup kits don't ride as nice as a good quality coilover. They also don't have the adjustability as a quality coilover. Needless to say, they aren't as good as a quality coilover.

Second off. If you aren't an Audi warranty adminstrator, you don't have the authority to come in here and tell this gentleman what will void his existing warranty, and what will not.
-Dan

cup kits are also not as expensive as a nice set of quality, ride adjustable coilovers


also, i said you give up the ride height control, and headache that goes along with it, there are benefits

[mr shickadance]

I think shick just likes playing devils advocate sometimes lol.

not really, just i had coils, and if i had to do it again, i would have gone a cup kit, again, you need the proper stuff for the proper application, if all you want to do is slightly lower your car and not worry about it, then you really don't NEED coils, just because everyone says you need to get them is not a solid enough reason for me.

X2

He's been trolling an awful lot lately

trolling? again, it's my opinion, and since i HAVE gone the coil over route, and would not do it again because my preference was never to track my car, or slam it to the ground, a cup kit would be all i need.

Agreed bro, don't want nothing extreme that why i wanted to go that route. Just wanna take out that ugly gap b/w the tire and fender. Thats why I wanna go the cup kit route, what a good setup in your opinion?

talk to chris at 1552, or hugh at europa parts, they deal with these things more than i do and i'm sure they have heard a lot more customer feedback than i have.



also, realized i should have multiquoted 2 posts ago....o well #postcount?


also, people get so bent out shape when you don't blindly agree with them so let me try one more time to lay out the facts.


if these are important to you:
-adjustable ride height
-adjustable ride
-slamming your car to the ground
-tracking your car

then coils are def in your direction

if these are important to you:
-ease of install
-no height adjustment headache
-slightly less expensive install (provided you don't do it yourself)
-fixed ride height
-mild lowering

then a cup kit is all you need.

[mec]

This thread is fail....

[Operator]

also, people get so bent out shape when you don't blindly agree with them so let me try one more time to lay out the facts.


if these are important to you:
-adjustable ride height
-adjustable ride
-slamming your car to the ground
-tracking your car

then coils are def in your direction

if these are important to you:
-ease of install
-no height adjustment headache
-slightly less expensive install (provided you don't do it yourself)
-fixed ride height
-mild lowering

then a cup kit is all you need.

THIS!

I have the Vogtland Jr. kit, and have no second thoughts. My car us dropped just right "for me". And I don't see the need to move onto coils........

[bnish]

perhaps try purchasing bilstein sport shocks and get a set of custom springs from swift:

http://www.swiftsprings.net/

swift springs are arguably some of the best quality springs you can buy. in addition, you get the height that you want, a linear spring rate of your choice, and dont have to worry about tinkering with threaded spring seats.

i dont plan to upgrade my springs, but if i did, i would probably do this.

actually, this might be really expensive. nevermind

[RAudiB7A4]

I also currently have the Vogtland Jr. Cup kit. I have to say that the quality is very good, and the handling is truely fantastic. I have had several other auto enthusiasts ride in and drive my car and thy have made comments about how my car is glued to the road. If it were a bit lower I probably would not be switching over to coils. The kit is only slightly lower than factory sport suspension. My car didn't have sport suspension so the drop was more pronounced. If I were going to order another cup kit I would do the Vogtland's again. My 2 cents.

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

I've always liked the H&R spring set paired with Bilstein shocks. Both are well know manufacturers in the suspension industry. The H&R springs offer 1.7F drop and 1.6R drop. Unless you plan on slamming your car this puts you at a nice ride height. At $692 it's the least expensive option

Click HERE to order or for more information.


We also have coilovers available as well. FK and ST's are the most popular budget options. Each are height adjustable with out dampening adjustability

Click HERE to order or for more information.


If you have any other questions let me know!

Jason

[TFSI]

Hmm.. vogtland doesn't look that bad for the price. $479 for entire set is a good value!!

[20bunnIY1633]

But after that 695 price wont u have to source out adj upper control arms for alignment?

[mr shickadance]

But after that 695 price wont u have to source out adj upper control arms for alignment?

no coil over set comes with adjustable upp control arms, and i think the drop is mild enough to where you don't need them

[bigsef36]

Coilovers is the way to go for sure.

[20bunnIY1633]

no coil over set comes with adjustable upp control arms, and i think the drop is mild enough to where you don't need them

I am aware of that. But im stock height on sport suspension. If i go springs and shocks wont i need adjustability to save on tire wear. Even if im not trying to slam my car?

[ECS Tuning-Audi]

But after that 695 price wont u have to source out adj upper control arms for alignment?

Unless you are really low and or really really concerned about tire wear adjustable control arms aren't a necessity.

What really eats tires is the combination of bad toe and camber. If you have an alignment done and they correct the toe setting camber wont be terrible even on a drop of 1.5 inches. Its when you go lower than 2 inches camber starts to get bad.

Jason