Which coilovers best for b8 ?

[veki]

hi everyone !

I'm lookong for coilovers for my b8. they must be high quality and must have damping adjustment (if not, they must be pretty soft) beacuse of baby. this is a family car.

with affordable prices to me (+/- 1300$) available in croatia there are:

1. H&R
2. Eibach Pro Street S
3. Lowtec H9.3
4. AP APX
5. Weitec Hicon GT

what do you think , which one is the best ? personal experiences are highly welcome !

thanks.

edit: there is a 2 more years manufacturer warranty on car. is there a chance to lose it when I install coils ?

[veki]

these are prices here in croatia. they are from 7000HRK to 8000HRK, convereted to dollars it's about 1300$. prices are useless here. I wrote coils that I can buy here and I just want to know which one is the best.

[TCHUN003]

H&R's are good

[veki]

thanks. someone else ?

[Okan509]

hi everyone !

I'm lookong for coilovers for my b8. they must be high quality and must have damping adjustment (if not, they must be pretty soft) beacuse of baby. this is a family car.

with affordable prices to me (+/- 1300$) available in croatia there are:

1. H&R
2. Eibach Pro Street S
3. Lowtec H9.3
4. AP APX
5. Weitec Hicon GT

what do you think , which one is the best ? personal experiences are highly welcome !

thanks.

edit: there is a 2 more years manufacturer warranty on car. is there a chance to lose it when I install coils ?

can't really comment on the CO's, but I do understand warranty issues. From my understanding the dealership could deny warranty on suspension bits with aftermarket parts installed.(In USA)

Also, Bari(username) has the lowtecs, so maybe send a pm over to him - only guy that I know with them on here. Otherwise I hear H&R's are good.

adjustable dampening for $1300? not going to happen unless you're buying used.

why be that guy?

[hyperunion]

thanks. someone else ?

I have H@R coils and front and rear sway bars....Excellent ride quality at my local area with terrible roads. I made sure i did sway bars knowing H@R Street is slightly softer ride....
Ride feels quite a bit better then my b6 with pss9s...

[veki]

can't really comment on the CO's, but I do understand warranty issues. From my understanding the dealership could deny warranty on suspension bits with aftermarket parts installed.(In USA)

Also, Bari(username) has the lowtecs, so maybe send a pm over to him - only guy that I know with them on here. Otherwise I hear H&R's are good.



why be that guy?

thats what I think about warranty. I'll lose warrany only on suspension and everything else it affects. it's not a big problem, thats not a frequently failure.

was someone here installed coils under warranty ? what about services and when the workers check car before going in the workshop, and that similar craps ?

I have H@R coils and front and rear sway bars....Excellent ride quality at my local area with terrible roads. I made sure i did sway bars knowing H@R Street is slightly softer ride....
Ride feels quite a bit better then my b6 with pss9s...

thats an answer I want. thanks.

[dracolnyte]

i thought i heard H&R being harsher than KW

[pyoo189]

i have KW V1 and its the one of the best decision of mod on my car
Very happy with the ride quality
smooth and not to bouncy
and its around your price range

[A4 Centaur]

Vogtlands. Croatia and Germany= Good stuff.

[audirings4]

Vogtlands.

+1
I just had these installed and they're a great improvement over the H&R springs.

[veki]

some guys have told me that their audis are more comfortable with coilovers than with original s-line suspension! is that true ?

so, question for everyone who have coils on their b8 with serial sport suspension. is there a big difference between original sport suspension and coilovers ?

thanks!

[Azeroth]

I bought KW V1s. haven't got them on yet, but hopefully on wednesday... I went with them because I wanted to save the time/effort/money in the long term, and do it right the first time. It's supposed to be a very nice suspension setup, and many people run them on B7s.

[audirings4]

I bought KW V1s. haven't got them on yet, but hopefully on wednesday... I went with them because I wanted to save the time/effort/money in the long term, and do it right the first time. It's supposed to be a very nice suspension setup, and many people run them on B7s.

I initially was looking at picking up a set of KW V1's myself but after reading a large thread about the sagging issues I opted for the Vogtland's.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-rears-sagging

[veki]

today I recieved an awesome offer for KW coils, for v1 and street comfort. which actually fits into my budget.

what do you say, which one is the better chice ?

[Azeroth]

I initially was looking at picking up a set of KW V1's myself but after reading a large thread about the sagging issues I opted for the Vogtland's.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-rears-sagging

very interesting... wish I had time to read through the entire thread! I wonder how long the coils were on before this issue was encountered? I'm not even fully aware of what sagging means, but I would assume that means the coils settle over time? Which is what they should do anyways, correct? Anyhow, I'm sure my eye would not notice any slight sagging, unless it became extensive...

All I can say is I've heard many people highly regard KWs, and it seems to me, at least according to the price range, that they are a higher quality coilover set (maybe not compared to bilstein coilovers though). So, despite certain reported issues, I am sure they will be better quality than other sets.

I will post up pics, hopefully after I get them put on wednesday!

[c3A4]

I chose H&R over KW because of the sagging issue. Should be installed after new years.

[audirings4]

very interesting... wish I had time to read through the entire thread! I wonder how long the coils were on before this issue was encountered? I'm not even fully aware of what sagging means, but I would assume that means the coils settle over time? Which is what they should do anyways, correct? Anyhow, I'm sure my eye would not notice any slight sagging, unless it became extensive...

All I can say is I've heard many people highly regard KWs, and it seems to me, at least according to the price range, that they are a higher quality coilover set (maybe not compared to bilstein coilovers though). So, despite certain reported issues, I am sure they will be better quality than other sets.

I will post up pics, hopefully after I get them put on wednesday!

Don't assume anything until you read the thread. It may save you time and money.

[veki]

final choice is on kw v1, h&r and eibach !

I need help now. I need concretely answers, personal experiences at first.

thanks.

[HIS4]

Where are you seeing Eibach coilovers available because I've been looking for awhile now and never found them on their US website?

[audirings4]

final choice is on kw v1, h&r and eibach !

I need help now. I need concretely answers, personal experiences at first.

thanks.

A few personal experiences in this thread.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-rears-sagging

[veki]

I know, but.. it is long process to obtain these three with damping adjustment here (kw v2, v3 and street comfort are too expensive). with lowtec is least complicated, but most people told me that lowtec isn't a good choice, so, with little thinking and calculating I think that some of these three will fulfill my purposes. damping is no longer a reqirement.

kw v1 is most used and highest quality, eibach should be softest and h&r is somewhere between.

to finish this discussion, I think that most used and quality is enough reason for buying. if someone not change my opinion.

[wtfscarnon]

I'm looking at c/o at the moment as well and tossing between kw v1s or fk silverline x which have damping adjustability an are roughly the same price. Think I was looking at prices on dpmperformance.com

Edit- just realized you have a b8 not b7

[audirings4]

I know, but.. it is long process to obtain these three with damping adjustment here (kw v2, v3 and street comfort are too expensive). with lowtec is least complicated, but most people told me that lowtec isn't a good choice, so, with little thinking and calculating I think that some of these three will fulfill my purposes. damping is no longer a reqirement.

kw v1 is most used and highest quality, eibach should be softest and h&r is somewhere between.

to finish this discussion, I think that most used and quality is enough reason for buying. if someone not change my opinion.

Not sure why you posted a thread asking for facts when you choose to ignore the warnings you are given.
So here are the part numbers for the spacers. You'll need these when your rear springs sagg.

3 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 15 mm..... 65030045
2 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 30 mm..... 65030046
1 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 50 mm..... 65030047

[veki]

Edit- just realized you have a b8 not b7

no, I'm not...

now really, why ? beacuse of that down there ?

Not sure why you posted a thread asking for facts when you choose to ignore the warnings you are given.
So here are the part numbers for the spacers. You'll need these when your rear springs sagg.

3 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 15 mm..... 65030045
2 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 30 mm..... 65030046
1 Aluminium spring spacers, height = 50 mm..... 65030047

dealer told me that everything is ok with v1, and they never had a complaint about that. they have already been installed v1 on b8.

edit: sorry, but in that thread about sagging I think that there was a problem with v3.

[audirings4]

dealer told me that everything is ok with v1, and they never had a complaint about that. they have already been installed v1 on b8.

edit: sorry, but in that thread about sagging I think that there was a problem with v3.

So the dealer selling you the V1 told you they are fine. Hmmm, wonder why.

If you read through the thread the problem lies with both v3 AND v1's.

[veki]

look, shop/workshop is one of the biggest and best in croatia, it is serious company, so I believed them.. (until now.)

I will. thanks for warning.

[Azeroth]

I think we need to avoid fallacies of composition... Just because a few users of KW coilovers experience sagging issues, doesn't mean every single set of coils will encounter this issue. If one were to encounter this issue, I believe KW carries a lifetime warranty for factory defects, so you could just get a new set

I just got mine installed, I'll try to post up a little write up in the next couple days

[audirings4]

I think we need to avoid fallacies of composition... Just because a few users of KW coilovers experience sagging issues, doesn't mean every single set of coils will encounter this issue. If one were to encounter this issue, I believe KW carries a lifetime warranty for factory defects, so you could just get a new set

I just got mine installed, I'll try to post up a little write up in the next couple days

Not to throw salt in the wound but there is 7 pages in that thread a linked and even more posts in the BMW forums.
I had the KW V3's on one of my previous cars would but would never buy KW again knowing their solution to the issue is for the consumer to purchase another product from them.

[Azeroth]

Not to throw salt in the wound but there is 7 pages in that thread a linked and even more posts in the BMW forums.
I had the KW V3's on one of my previous cars would but would never buy KW again knowing their solution to the issue is for the consumer to purchase another product from them.

Dang, I didn't know so many people experienced the problem. Luckily I will not have to purchase another set since they include lifetime warranty!

[Greg Nelson]

I think we need to avoid fallacies of composition... Just because a few users of KW coilovers experience sagging issues, doesn't mean every single set of coils will encounter this issue. If one were to encounter this issue, I believe KW carries a lifetime warranty for factory defects, so you could just get a new set

Don't you mean a hasty generalization?

Not to throw salt in the wound but there is 7 pages in that thread a linked and even more posts in the BMW forums.
I had the KW V3's on one of my previous cars would but would never buy KW again knowing their solution to the issue is for the consumer to purchase another product from them.

KW would not give me the spring spacers for my V1 sag issue, I had to pay $80 for them, plus install plus alignment

Luckily I will not have to purchase another set since they include lifetime warranty!

lol, good luck with that lifetime warranty - will require sending the coils to KW (Stanton, CA), they'll 'analyze' for about 3 weeks (meanwhile your ride's on blocks and undriveable)
then they MAY fix the issue.
My experience with KW 'customer service' re my rear sag was 100% negative - they have stated repeatedly they do not read forums and do not care about individual customer issues
They put the wrong springs in the coils at certain times and they refuse to acknowledge their mistake.

[El. Cid]

Vogtlands here; been very happy with them.

[Azeroth]

lol, good luck with that lifetime warranty - will require sending the coils to KW (Stanton, CA), they'll 'analyze' for about 3 weeks (meanwhile your ride's on blocks and undriveable)
then they MAY fix the issue.
My experience with KW 'customer service' re my rear sag was 100% negative - they have stated repeatedly they do not read forums and do not care about individual customer issues
They put the wrong springs in the coils at certain times and they refuse to acknowledge their mistake.

Fortunate for me that's only a few hours away from where I live. During the period of time while they're analyzing them, I will put my stock suspension back on that I saved. After I get my new ones, which any company with a warranty will honor, I can then decide to sell them or keep them.

I guess you're right, it is a lot of work... But I'm not too worried about it. I can always make time in my life to take care of small matters

[Azeroth]

Anyhow, here's some more pics
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...rgains-content

[c3A4]

I got my H&R coilovers installed and right now I'm running a 2-finger or slightly more than one inch gap on the back and front for winter. I can still adjust it higher or lower in the back and front. Very happy with it so far.

[hyperunion]

H@Rs are the way forward, .....sad about the kw problems....

[Dingotech]

I got my H&R coilovers installed and right now I'm running a 2-finger or slightly more than one inch gap on the back and front for winter. I can still adjust it higher or lower in the back and front. Very happy with it so far.

My H&R coilovers are being installed tomorrow along with an H&R front anti-sway (already have the rear). I started with the standard suspension (rolly-polly!). Looking forward to posting some pix afterwards.

[K1_Builder]

My H&R coilovers are being installed tomorrow along with an H&R front anti-sway (already have the rear). I started with the standard suspension (rolly-polly!). Looking forward to posting some pix afterwards.

Awesome! Look forward to seeing your review on it. I am looking at buying the H&R Street set in the next few weeks.

[Ajbarbato15]

I am running BC Racing coilovers. I think I am the (or one of the) only people of the forum with these. They should difinitely be considered. They are extremely affordable, 30-way dampening adjustment, and go very low if that is something you are interested in.

[Dingotech]

Awesome! Look forward to seeing your review on it. I am looking at buying the H&R Street set in the next few weeks.

Satisfaction. My car now handles and feels like my old A3 with the sports package. And this is without the front sway bar (which, regrettable, didn't arrive in time). I set the height to about an inch under stock and am happy with how it turned out. I can't say that there's a dramatic improvement because the car now handles the way that I'm used to (I had that A3 for six years).

Purchase and install with TAG Motorsports in Escondido, CA(Ask for Sean). I loved working with them and will return soon for a brake upgrade (as well as to have the pesky front sway bar installed!).

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