Is The RS5 Fast Enough????

[woodranch]

My dealer has a RS5 on the lot that was test driven by the dealership big wigs.My service advisor told me that he was a little disappointed in the fastness of the RS5 and felt it should have been a bigger difference between it and the S5.Do those current owners of the RS5 agree with this statement.Does the RS5 lack the quickness of RS type of car or are you very satisfied.I became a little skeptical when I heard this statement...Thanks

[LeoLopezDO]

My dealer has a RS5 on the lot that was test driven by the dealership big wigs.My service advisor told me that he was a little disappointed in the fastness of the RS5 and felt it should have been a bigger difference between it and the S5.Do those current owners of the RS5 agree with this statement.Does the RS5 lack the quickness of RS type of car or are you very satisfied.I became a little skeptical when I heard this statement...Thanks

I thought it was too slow...this is after I rode "top thrill dragster" at cedar point (0-100 in 4 seconds?)...

Listen, numbers are what they are..0-60 in 4.3-4.5 range...quarter mile in the mid-low 12 seconds. Top end at 174mph....

thats as fast as every other car that runs the same numbers...stupid obvious statement but its an obvious response given the numbers this car puts up consistently.

wait till you launch one of these sums a bitches...its incredible.

[svirk2]

It's because the rs5 has no torque.

[woodranch]

To someone who does not no shit about cars but enjoys driving them, can you explain torque in simple terms and how that effects feel of speed between one car that has it and one that does not have it.

[Okan509]

To someone who does not no shit about cars but enjoys driving them, can you explain torque in simple terms and how that effects feel of speed between one car that has it and one that does not have it.

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[Mikei182]

When you wake up in the morning with a woody, and push it down to take a whizz, and it knocks your feet from under you, that's torque!

For a car, torque is how much of the engine power gets applied to the wheels. If two cars have the same HP, say 350, and one has 200 feet lb of torque, and the other has 300, the latter will be quicker, however they both may have the same top speed. The V6 S5 has the same torque as the V8 S5, but the V6 reaches its max torque value lower in the RPM range than the V8, hence it will be quicker for a bit, but when the V8 hits it's max torque value, it's greater HP will begin to shine,and begin to pull away. Make sense?

[woodranch]

Makes sense...Thanks.If the RS5 is supposed to be there top end 5 why wouldn't Audi give it more torque so there would be a substantial difference between it and the S5.Are people unhappy with the amount of torque that it has?

[Stubek]

Simple terms
torque=low end power, peak is around 3,000 rpm and stays flat from there then falls off at about 5,500 (general, not specific to the RS5). It gets the car moving
hp=mid to high end power, peak is around 5,500-6,500 depending on the car. It falls off shortly after the peak. HP keeps you going

So, it is possible for two cars to have identical 0-100 times and 1/4 mile times, but be different 0-60 or 0-30 because one has more torque than the other. Also, gearing is different. If you look at old muscle cars in the US (Mustangs and Camaros from the 60s), you can have two camaros with same engine and same hp and torque, but one has a 4.27 rear end, and the other a 3.93 or smaller rear end. The one with the 4.27 will accelerate faster, but have a lower top speed.

Take all that into consideration and you get the difference between the RS5 and S5 and many other cars.....

[scrofas5]

The rs5 doesn't shine in the lower RPMs! Comparing the rs5 to the v6 supercharged or any other boosted motor is senseless cause there both very different platforms and power bands. If u ever have driven a gallardo v10, ull know that feeling, the car isn't really quick at all below 4k rpm, it's actually very disappointing comparing it to my tuned 335i. But once ur above 6k rpm it's a rocket with decent torque and good power, mixed with the sound , it's an intoxicating car to drive.

Don't expect loads of torque out of a high reving v8, it's not in it's nature . If u want torque get a boosted motor or a big lazy v8. I prefer boost any day, due to its great delivery of torque on most of the powerband! I usually look at torque figures more than hp when I purchase a car, this I don't always have to downshift to be in high RPMs to overtake a car on the road.

Look at torque as twisting force and pull. Torque is how fast ur going to get there and hp is how fast ur going to go!! That's a good analogy.

[Dr Bill]

To someone who does not no shit about cars but enjoys driving them, can you explain torque in simple terms and how that effects feel of speed between one car that has it and one that does not have it.

I'm sure you've seen this simple explanation - understeer is when the front end hits the wall first, oversteer is when the rear end hits the wall first, horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you move the wall.

For more science: http://www.fastestlaps.com/articles/...the_facts.html

As to the original question - is the RS5 fast enough? Fast enough for what? It's not a car designed for the drag strip or the racetrack. It's plenty fast enough for what it was designed for. I guess the question should be - what is the purpose of the RS5?

[endless5]

We live in LA, you're not just buying the car for plain speed since 90% of the time if we go over 70 we're going to get pulled over

you're buying it for the prestige, the design, the beauty, the kitty, the speed. if you want something fast(est), get a gtr or a hayabusa

[yas]

Makes sense...Thanks.If the RS5 is supposed to be there top end 5 why wouldn't Audi give it more torque so there would be a substantial difference between it and the S5.Are people unhappy with the amount of torque that it has?

Above 100mph, the S5 doesn't stand a chance of catching the RS 5. That's what it's designed for - not for urban drag racing.

[CyberS5]

In normal daily driving (when your RPM range is 2000-5000), the difference between the S5 and RS5 will not be that noticeable. The S5 can get to 110 mph pretty quick just like the RS5, and you're probably not going to stay at that speed too long or you'd get a ticket. To get to 1/4 mile, the S5 can do it in 13.1 - 13.2 seconds while the RS5 around 12.5 - 12.8 seconds (0.3 - 0.5 seconds faster). So, not much.

Now if you drive the RS5 like you stole it at 7500-8250 RPM (taking advantaging of its High revving engine), then that's when your hitting its max horsepower potential at 400-450 horsepower. You can probably hit 150-170 MPH and you'll be driving like a maniac on the road. That's where the RS5 shine. In the racetrack, you can drive like this. If you don't see yourself driving like this on normal roads, then the S5 has more than enough power as a daily driver. And if you buy the RS5, you're buying it for the prestige of owning one - speed is secondary. If you live in Germany and near the Autobahn, you can do 150-170 mph every day, but not in California.

The S4 and S5 are more than adequate for daily driving in the US highways and roads. In fact, any car that can do 0-60 in less than 5 seconds is plenty fast for US driving.

[Leor604]

Torque wins on the street, horsepower wins on the track.

[Raser]

I think it will be fast enough for me. I will know for sure next spring when I put it on the track.

[B45H1R]

My dealer has a RS5 on the lot that was test driven by the dealership big wigs.My service advisor told me that he was a little disappointed in the fastness of the RS5 and felt it should have been a bigger difference between it and the S5.Do those current owners of the RS5 agree with this statement.Does the RS5 lack the quickness of RS type of car or are you very satisfied.I became a little skeptical when I heard this statement...Thanks

Fast enough for what?

Doesn't matter really though. Don't rely on us. Go get in one and see for yourself.

If a dealership has one and respects you, they'll let you drive it.

[B45H1R]

I thought it was too slow...this is after I rode "top thrill dragster" at cedar point (0-100 in 4 seconds?)...

Listen, numbers are what they are..0-60 in 4.3-4.5 range...quarter mile in the mid-low 12 seconds. Top end at 174mph....

thats as fast as every other car that runs the same numbers...stupid obvious statement but its an obvious response given the numbers this car puts up consistently.

wait till you launch one of these sums a bitches...its incredible.

APR's unbroken in RS5 did 0-60 in 4.2 seconds (there is a link somewhere around here).
Motor Trends broken in test car did 0-60 in 4.0 seconds.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ec_first_test/

Also not to beat a dead horse, but it also spanks the M3 if you bother looking at the actual compilation of track times. Plus these are with the 2010 set up. If you look at the 2012 numbers the RS5 is faster still.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...audi_rs_5.html

[mantena]

APR's unbroken in RS5 did 0-60 in 4.2 seconds (there is a link somewhere around here).
Motor Trends broken in test car did 0-60 in 4.0 seconds.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ec_first_test/

Also not to beat a dead horse, but it also spanks the M3 if you bother looking at the actual compilation of track times. Plus these are with the 2010 set up. If you look at the 2012 numbers the RS5 is faster still.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...audi_rs_5.html

If you consider the looks on top of all that performance, it not only spanks the m3, it beats it into the ground!!!!!! The me, c62, cts-v don't compare in the looks department.

[if6ws9]

If you consider the looks on top of all that performance, it not only spanks the m3, it beats it into the ground!!!!!! The me, c62, cts-v don't compare in the looks department.

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[Frinkferta]

Love this post! Nothing like a good read on HP and Torque.

[C4L]

Its all relative too. The RS5 is quicker than 99% of the cars on the road and 95% of the cars on the market. If you are used to driving cars in the top 5% or even that other 1%, it will disappoint. And with this trend of down-sized and forced induction motors, it is a different experience.

I bet the new 3.0T S5 will feel faster in most normal driving conditions due to the fact that it makes 325 lb-ft at 2900 rpm and weighs 3,850 lbs as compared to the RS5 that makes 317 lb-ft at 4000 rpm and weighs 4,000 lbs.

The RS5 and Audis 4.2 V8 drives like a Honda V-TEC whereas the newer forced-induction/direct injection motors are more linear in power delivery. Expect the 4.2 to be replaced by the 4.0T VERY soon in ALL of Audi's cars. Currently only the RS4/RS5 and R8 still use it.

[Wilbur]

To someone who does not no shit about cars but enjoys driving them, can you explain torque in simple terms and how that effects feel of speed between one car that has it and one that does not have it.

The eaiest way it has been explained to me is Torque gets you up to speed (more the quicker) and horsepower keeps you there. Diesels (tons of tq but generally less hp)are quick off the line but not that fast top end.

[NYCBOY]

My dealer has a RS5 on the lot that was test driven by the dealership big wigs.My service advisor told me that he was a little disappointed in the fastness of the RS5 and felt it should have been a bigger difference between it and the S5.Do those current owners of the RS5 agree with this statement.Does the RS5 lack the quickness of RS type of car or are you very satisfied.I became a little skeptical when I heard this statement...Thanks

No car is fast enough

[L0U]

on the street, you will get less trafic tickets per boner in the s5.

[AofC_RR]

on the street, you will get less trafic tickets per boner in the s5.

LMAO! Classic, end thread.

[CyberS5]

Hey you still have that RS5 Daytona Gray?

LMAO! Classic, end thread.

[wonlees5]

N/A motors will feel really different to Force induced engines... one main reason they never give a car the whole shebang is sales... like the S5 is in the same class as the 335 easliy can be said why dont they give more low end torque to smoke the 335? cause then the s5 will rivale the rs5... and if they build the rs5 with more low end torque... guys that would buy the V8 R8 would much rather the price tag of an rs5 with more giddy up.. its just the chain of effects... the more they do to one car.. the more they have to do to every car... its a trend these days for forced induced motors... makes more sense new S6 S7 V8TT and i think the S8 V10TT