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    Established Member Two Rings dhackwichita's Avatar
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    Engine Restore Additive???

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    I have used the Engine Restore additive in just about every car I've ever owned, and I am wondering if it would help at all in my our S4's..?? I know its not "magic in a can", but would it possibly help slow down the scoring of our cylinder walls, or maybe even restore a little compression? I know how sensitive our motors are to the proper oil, so I guess my question is, could it hurt? I mean, why not give it a try, as long as it wouldn't do any damage to the motor? Has anyone else used this stuff, or tried it in our motors?


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    Senior Member Two Rings Jorgen's Avatar
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    This doesn't seem like the best idea I have heard all day.

    If you don't have scored walls just spend the extram money and make sure to buy good oil, good filters and don't stretch the changes. Also take the extra few minutes to let the thing warm up well.

    I don't see scored walls as a progressive issue that will be slowed by something like this. That is just me but what do I know.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings dparm's Avatar
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    For the love of God do not put that garbage in your car.

    That belongs in beaters that are trying to make it another week until the owner buys a new car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dparm View Post
    For the love of God do not put that garbage in your car.

    That belongs in beaters that are trying to make it another week until the owner buys a new car.
    Yeah what he said.

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    Senior Member Two Rings desmo's Avatar
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    Use a good synthetic oil, change it when you are supposed to and you don't need anything else. Your good synthetic oil already has all of the additives it needs. If you research in the forums here you will find out that none of these additives do anything good and may do harm. If you want to find out more than you'll ever want to know, visit http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

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    Lol, that garbage is a bunch of tiny metal particles that are supposed to "fill in" scored cylinder walls on CAST IRON engines. There have been cases where it has actually worked on old engines, but it's a temporary band-aid

    Our engine is Alusil. Aluminum and Silicon. In other words, if you cylinders are scored, your screwed anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by B6JoeS4 View Post
    In other words, if you cylinders are scored, your screwed anyways
    Some of the truest words ever spoken.

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    Used it in my '73 bug which brought the compression up from 122 to 145. Tried it also in my 2006 F-150 which smokes a bit on startup (not sure why, I've never missed an oil change) and made NO difference.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings dparm's Avatar
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    Using it in Alusil is going to be catastrophic.

    One of Alusil's benefits is that it is actually porous at a microscopic level. This offers TWO benefits: more oil makes its way onto the cylinder walls and the cylinder walls have more surface area to cool themselves.

    We want oil on the cylinder walls to prevent wear, of course. We need to maintain a sufficient quantity of oil to prevent the piston rings or the pistons themselves from actually coming in contact with the walls. The pistons are supposed to move up-and-down, not side-to-side...but it happens anyways. If we don't have enough oil to maintain what is known as a hydrodynamic wedge, the pistons will touch the cylinder walls. By having some "extra" oil on the cylinder walls, we have a bigger safety margin.

    At startup, oil hasn't made it into every last crevice. This is only for a brief instant, but even at idle we have pistons moving at a very high speed and there is substantial wear. But since the Alusil is already holding some oil in its pores, we can prevent some of this wear.


    The other benefit to this added surface area is that the cylinder walls can bleed off heat more effectively. Needless to say, the cylinders are quite toasty. Since we can get more oil in there, we can carry the heat away more quickly as well. Like I've talked about before, oil does more than lubricate; even in a modern engine it handles cooling. If we can keep cylinder temperatures down, we can maintain power output.

    Furthermore, If the temperatures are not kept in check, we also experience more wear. The high temperatures will break down the oil and cause thinning. That 5w40, with enough heat, will fall "out of grade". When it falls out of grade, the effective film strength is temporarily reduced and the pistons could scuff the cylinders. There are anti-scuffing additives in oil to prevent this, but at a certain point the explosive power of the piston is going to win.


    Audi requires good synthetic oils with sufficient HTHS to maintain film strength. Alusil helps us take full advantage of this. When selecting an oil, we can take further advantage of Alusil's porous nature by opting for oils containing esters. Esters are polar and effectively "stick" to metal. If we can encourage the oil to fill in those pores, that's all the better.


    That being said, imagine what happens when you suddenly fill in those pores with metal. Temperatures go up. Less oil gets onto the walls. Neither of those things improve longevity.
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    That's mighty informative of you, dparm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c13h18n2 View Post
    That's mighty informative of you, dparm!
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