TTRS vs RS5

[orlandosk2]

I already put money down on the RS5, but I really am considering both.

0-60 RS5 4.3
1/4 Mile 12.8

0-60 TTRS 4.1
1/4 Mile 12.1

I know they are two different beasts, but the TTRS is cheaper, better on gas, and faster. Honestly one big issue with the TTRS is that it is outdated in my opinion. Navigation and no internet options in the car is a huge option for me. I personally don't care about the wifi, but the google maps is big.

What's your guys opinion? I mean I want the RS5 for speed and it seems stupid to completely throw the TTRS out of the mix.

[Mops@Nemesis]

Drove one a couple weeks ago. Such a blast. Im sure the RS is great but the 5's just feel so heavy.

[maga4]

Buy a S5 and throw APR's (bigger) supercharger on it! http://www.goapr.com/products/stage3_b8_s5_42fsi.html

[denis555]

If it were me I would go RS5 all the way, I just think it will be way more rare. Where I live in Edmonton, Canada our Audi dealership is only getting five RS5's and they have down payments for double that. You were fortunate to get on the list for one.

[Beast]

Stick with rs5

[0302]

Another benefit of the RS5 is rear seats. While they may not be incredibly useful, at least it has them.

[A4A4A4]

If it were me I would go RS5 all the way, I just think it will be way more rare. Where I live in Edmonton, Canada our Audi dealership is only getting five RS5's and they have down payments for double that. You were fortunate to get on the list for one.

... I'd bet your Edmonton dealership gets one or two TTRS' allocated to it. Rarity it not a good argument for the RS5 over the TT-RS.

I'd personally opt for the TT-RS, it's much more of a driver's car. Manual gear box, light(er)weight, precision steering, and a screaming 5-cyl engine that can easily be tuned to make big power. Plus you're saving a pretty big chunk of cash up front as well as a decent amount of fuel costs down the road.

Although the RS5 has a bit more tech, comfort, and a beautiful V8 symphony, I think that 4.2 is past its prime, plus it's auto only.

You can't really go wrong with either though, both fantastic cars.

[gd10]

your going to have a hard time finding a tt-rs... no tt-rs for 2013

[TofuShop]

TT S/RS gets facelifted in 2014 to get the same style headlamps/tail lamps as the rest of the Audi lineup. took this pic from a magazine i saw at B&N last week. i think it looks great. hopefully the interior and tech gets updated as well:

[antoff83]

your going to have a hard time finding a tt-rs... no tt-rs for 2013

I think they're 3 TT-RS's last in US. 2 in Cali and 1 in Chicago..hurry up they won last long though

[Tifosi]

From performance POV, I would select TT-RS over RS-5. But I do agree that the car is somewhat outdated and I am still a little uneasy about th Haldex Quattro system.

[GSS5]

TT S/RS gets facelifted in 2014 to get the same style headlamps/tail lamps as the rest of the Audi lineup. took this pic from a magazine i saw at B&N last week. i think it looks great. hopefully the interior and tech gets updated as well:

that's a hideous artist rendering.

[GSS5]

oh and i would go for the ttrs. it's a manual, sounds better (imo), is quicker, more economical, better looking (imo)..

[throwaway1]

I don't even think there is a comparison between the 2. The TTRS is a glorified Golf. Ya sure its got a turbo on it so its sort of fast, big deal.

The RS5 is in a completely different league. It has a proper AWD system instead of haldex, and is of a significantly higher quality. Browse the uk TT-rs forums. One guy broke a control arm just by using bigger and stickier tires on a track. That shit won't happen with an RS5. If you only cae about straight line speed then sure a TT-RS might be better. But if you care about handling, interior luxury, and straight line speed, then the RS5 wins hands down. The S5 wins hands down!

[A4A4A4]

But if you care about handling, interior luxury, and straight line speed, then the RS5 wins hands down.

I think the RS5 only takes 1 out of those 3 categories, not sure how that would give it a hands down win.

[TheDapperDriver]

sure ttrs is faster, but its so small and not as half as good looking as the rs5

[throwaway1]

I think the RS5 only takes 1 out of those 3 categories, not sure how that would give it a hands down win.

I wasn't referring to it as a competition. I am saying the RS5 has all those 3, the TTRS only 1. You cannot seriously think the TTRS handles better. It has shittier 4wd, no rear diff, and 61% front weight distribution. Luxury, the RS5 kicks its ass in every way possible. It might lost a bit in straight line speed, but it is still damn good.

[Jeremiah_S]

Do you want a Buell or a Harley? If you want a larger car, that looks nicer (in our opinion?), and will turn heads, get the RS5. If you want a sports car, with that tiny miata/austin healey vibe, go for the TT-RS.

I think I'd have the RS5 at this point, only because, as I've said in previous posts, I'd look like I was driving a happy meal toy in the smaller car.

[GSS5]

I wasn't referring to it as a competition. I am saying the RS5 has all those 3, the TTRS only 1. You cannot seriously think the TTRS handles better. It has shittier 4wd, no rear diff, and 61% front weight distribution. Luxury, the RS5 kicks its ass in every way possible. It might lost a bit in straight line speed, but it is still damn good.

i was under the impression that the tt-rs is a very well handling car.

car and driver

the TT RS is supremely adept at unwinding corners. Pushed to its limits, the TT RS will eventually understeer, but up to that point there’s just grip. Magnetorheological shocks offer excellent wheel control, there’s very little body roll, and the car wears a wide 255/35-19 Toyo Proxes T1 Sport tire at every corner. Turns are taken with such ease and drama-free competence that it’s possible to fly over even unfamiliar roads; just point and shoot. The steering effort is high, but the wheel lacks the lively feel of a Porsche Cayman’s, a car that costs about $8000 less than the TT RS likely will.

automobile magazine

Over a 1.5-mile course, our enthusiasm for the RS continued to build with every corner. Turn-in is immediate but the steering never feels so quick that it's artificial. Effort and progressivity are perfect and body roll is nearly eliminated. During continuous lapping, the brakes **** with four-piston, fixed calipers up front **** consistently scrubbed speed heading into each turn, and never hinted that they were tiring.

The TT RS is nowhere near as forgiving as its most obvious competitor, the Porsche Cayman R. In that car, you can commit all manners of driving sins before the tires give up and scream for a better line or a slower entry speed. That's not to say that the TT RS is slower, it simply requires more experience, more skill, and more confidence to drive it quickly around a track. While the window of handling neutrality is smaller, the TT RS responds nicely to both throttle lift-off and power-on requests to rotate the rear end and in power, braking, and handling, it responds as a sports car should

autoblog

The platform builds confidence in a big way, allowing the driver to push the car ever further, even through an abrupt chicane over a blind crest. That setup typically yields a taste of oversteer, but the TT RS shrugged off the repeated shifts in vehicle weight, allowing us to pour on more power sooner than we would have thought possible.

Speaking of power, the depthless well of torque available from the turbo 2.5-liter engine means that taller gears can be held longer without having to fumble for a downshift. On the track, this machine is incredibly quick and without fuss. You simply get in and go fast with the kind of engagement that's increasingly absent from the luxury sports car set. The feel of the contoured wheel, precise gearbox and solid brakes mingles with the raucous bark of the exhaust for the perfect cocktail of speed. Audi has nailed this one.

[MonzaA5]

Haldex differential, based on a VW Golf platform (a previous generation one, on top of that), looks like a VW Beetle on steroids....as you can probably guess, I'm not a huge fan of the TT in any guise.

[MonzaA5]

i was under the impression that the tt-rs is a very well handling car.

Autocar compared the TT-RS to the R8 to see how the TT-RS would stack up to a real sports car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH1PatalLk4

While the TT-RS is undoubtedly quick around the track, you can see how heavily it understeers and leans into corners. And that's just physics. A front heavy car, combined with a front-biased AWD system and a short and tall body...nothing you can do about that.

[Beast]

that's a hideous artist rendering.

+1 that's ugly

[Okan509]

lol@ saying the tt-rs is dated. What's dated is the V8 in the RS5...

I really like the look of the TT-rs's - def would have to go black though. The RS5 is gonna turn more heads though.

[Beast]

As gd said in another thread rs5 will be a collector car one day

[antoff83]

As gd said in another thread rs5 will be a collector car one day

I said that:)

[A4A4A4]

You cannot seriously think the TTRS handles better. It has shittier 4wd, no rear diff, and 61% front weight distribution. Luxury, the RS5 kicks its ass in every way possible. It might lost a bit in straight line speed, but it is still damn good.

You missed one HUGE variable, the RS5 has 500lb+ of excess curb weight. Why do you think the car with 360hp (albeit underrated), jaunts the 0-60 and 1/4 mile so much quicker than the 450hp car? If you don't think 500lbs has an effect on handling you're delusional. Yeah the TTRS has 61% of it's weight up front but the RS5 has 57% (also not an ideal ratio), do a quick calculation and you'll find that the RS5 still has 250lbs+ more weight up front then the TTRS. The RS5 has also once again been criticized for the artificial steering feel that plagues many Audi's, from what I've read the TT-RS has a much more authentic, precise feel.

To me, Audi's 5 series is simply built as something to show off with. It looks fantastic and sounds great, guaranteed to turn some heads and impress your neighbours, but from the driver's seat, it's not what it should be. More speed, practicality, fun, fuel efficiency, and better handling can all be found elsewhere for less money.

More than likely neither the RS5 or TT-RS will become collectors cars, although if one would be to make it to that status, I'd guess the TTRS would be it. In every comparison test I've read so far, the RS5 has come in dead last, it's been beat by C63's, CTS-V's, and over and over again by a 4 year-old bimmer.

[GSS5]

You missed one HUGE variable, the RS5 has 500lb+ of excess curb weight. Why do you think the car with 360hp (albeit underrated), jaunts the 0-60 and 1/4 mile so much quicker than the 450hp car? If you don't think 500lbs has an effect on handling you're delusional. Yeah the TTRS has 61% of it's weight up front but the RS5 has 57% (also not an ideal ratio), do a quick calculation and you'll find that the RS5 still has 250lbs+ more weight up front then the TTRS. The RS5 has also once again been criticized for the artificial steering feel that plagues many Audi's, from what I've read the TT-RS has a much more authentic, precise feel.

To me, Audi's 5 series is simply built as something to show off with. It looks fantastic and sounds great, guaranteed to turn some heads and impress your neighbours, but from the driver's seat, it's not what it should be. More speed, practicality, fun, fuel efficiency, and better handling can all be found elsewhere for less money.

More than likely neither the RS5 or TT-RS will become collectors cars, although if one would be to make it to that status, I'd guess the TTRS would be it. In every comparison test I've read so far, the RS5 has come in dead last, it's been beat by C63's, CTS-V's, and over and over again by a 4 year-old bimmer.

well put.

[antoff83]

You missed one HUGE variable, the RS5 has 500lb+ of excess curb weight. Why do you think the car with 360hp (albeit underrated), jaunts the 0-60 and 1/4 mile so much quicker than the 450hp car? If you don't think 500lbs has an effect on handling you're delusional. Yeah the TTRS has 61% of it's weight up front but the RS5 has 57% (also not an ideal ratio), do a quick calculation and you'll find that the RS5 still has 250lbs+ more weight up front then the TTRS. The RS5 has also once again been criticized for the artificial steering feel that plagues many Audi's, from what I've read the TT-RS has a much more authentic, precise feel.

To me, Audi's 5 series is simply built as something to show off with. It looks fantastic and sounds great, guaranteed to turn some heads and impress your neighbours, but from the driver's seat, it's not what it should be. More speed, practicality, fun, fuel efficiency, and better handling can all be found elsewhere for less money.

More than likely neither the RS5 or TT-RS will become collectors cars, although if one would be to make it to that status, I'd guess the TTRS would be it. In every comparison test I've read so far, the RS5 has come in dead last, it's been beat by C63's, CTS-V's, and over and over again by a 4 year-old bimmer.

..where did you read this bullshits....You better watch this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZizEExZtzc

[throwaway1]

Yeah the TTRS has 61% of it's weight up front but the RS5 has 57% (also not an ideal ratio), do a quick calculation and you'll find that the RS5 still has 250lbs+ more weight up front then the TTRS.

HAHAHAHA. If you cannot see what is wrong with that comment, I won't even bother correcting you.

Take a TT-RS and RS5 around a decent track, and the RS5 will kick its ass hands down. That is the end of it. It also does it whilst offering more comfort and luxury. The TT-RS is a fucking GOLF. Nothing can fix that. No matter the body work, or the engine. The chassis is shit.

[S5xy]

Weird, I was under the impression that the ttrs handles very well and gives the cayman r a good run for its money.

Still, I'd take an rs5 over the ttrs anyday of the week.

[A4A4A4]

..where did you read this bullshits....You better watch this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZizEExZtzc

What? I watched it, they said the RS5 was beautiful but clinical, saying you miss out on the feeling you get with the other two. In the end two chose the C63 and one the M3... no one picked the RS5...

EDIT: Here's the articles I read.

RS5 vs M3 vs CTS-V - last place result - http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests
RS5 vs M3 vs C63 vs Boss 302- last place result - http://www.germancarforum.com/intern...whos-boss.html
RS5 vs CTS-V - last place result - http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...rs5-comparison
RS5 vs M3 vs C63 vs ISF - last place result - http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2010/11...s-c63-amg.html

HAHAHAHA. If you cannot see what is wrong with that comment, I won't even bother correcting you.

Take a TT-RS and RS5 around a decent track, and the RS5 will kick its ass hands down. That is the end of it. It also does it whilst offering more comfort and luxury. The TT-RS is a fucking GOLF. Nothing can fix that. No matter the body work, or the engine. The chassis is shit.

Feel free to correct at will, I'm here to learn, not just to throw out bias opinions.

What would you consider a decent track? The Hockenheim short? Sachsenring? Circuito de Balocco? Bedford Autodrome West?

I can post lap times for each of them but you won't like the results...

[Phoebusvh]

Anyone who said the RS5 can kick the TT-RS is full of sh!t & have never driven the TT platform before. TT is such a small car and with quattro, that little thing rides super great.

Anyways, back to the OP's original question, I personally would the the RS5 mainly due to the extra space. I find the TT too small (for some reason, I felt the Cayman gives me more room in the front seats)

[GSS5]

Weird, I was under the impression that the ttrs handles very well and gives the cayman r a good run for its money.

it does. people just don't want to admit it.

[Mops@Nemesis]

^For sure it does Greg. The 5's feel like a boat and the excess weight cannot be ignored and can be felt. The TTRS I drove handled so much better than the 5's I have driven. Really doesnt matter...just like facelift vs current. Whatever picture you want to paint.

[gd10]

some of you guys care way to much about track performance... the RS5 is a all year round, everyday, GT car, its not made for a track, its made for well off people who want a practical, safe, fun driving car ... all those rear wheel drive cars you compare it to are not all year round cars, once it rains or snows the car is no longer any fun, and your busy making sure you have traction and not spinning your wheels... but when it rains/snows and your driving an rs5, or any quattro car, the fun has just begun.

if you put amateur drivers in an RS5 and a C63/M3/CTS-V, and race them, the RS5 driver will win, hands down... it takes a real good driver to get all the power out of the c63/m3/cts-v

[aLTTP]

[mxrz]

Anyone who said the RS5 can kick the TT-RS is full of sh!t & have never driven the TT platform before. TT is such a small car and with quattro, that little thing rides super great.

Audi doesn't want to confuse people so they put a quattro badge on it, but it does not have quattro, and it isn't built by quattro in Germany, like ALL other RS cars. It is assembled in Hungary with an inferior Haldex AWD system.

[gd10]

Audi doesn't want to confuse people so they put a quattro badge on it, but it does not have quattro, and it isn't built by quattro in Germany, like ALL other RS cars. It is assembled in Hungary with an inferior Haldex AWD system.

inferior to quattro.... yes... to other awd systems, not so much.

[antoff83]

yep...only quattro and nothing else..

[buiyahkah]

Can't we all just get along..we're all Audi owners here