what is the best S5 chip tuning option

[Barela]

I have found the following table, but heard many different things about these different companies, any recomendation? i was leaning towards the PES tuning...

B8 Audi S5 4.2 FSI Max Power Max Torque
Tuner hp kW PS @ rpm ft-lbf Nm @ rpm
Factory 349 260 354 7000 325 440 3500
1 Hofele tuning 380 283 385 NA 347 470 NA
2 PES tuning 379 282 384 7000 362 491 3700
3 Senner tuning 369 275 374 NA 347 470 NA
4 EVOMSit tuning 369 275 374 NA 347 470 NA
5 Unitronic tuning 369 275 374 NA 342 464 NA
6 GIAC tuning 367 274 372 NA 340 461 NA
7 mcchip-dkr tuning 367 273 372 NA 342 464 NA
8 Revo tuning 366 273 371 NA 341 462 3500
9 B&B tuning 364 271 369 NA 340 461 NA
10 Competence tuning 362 270 367 NA 347 470 3300
11 STaSIS tuning1 360 268 365 NA 339 460 3500
12 Superchips tuning 359 268 364 NA 340 461 NA
13 SKN tuning 357 266 362 5750 352 477 2750
14 APR tuning 353 263 358 6547 312 423 3529

[gd10]

doing an ecu upgrade on an S5 will not give you any noticeable changes.. not worth the money.

[tboooe]

doing an ecu upgrade on an S5 will not give you any noticeable changes.. not worth the money.

+1 here. The S5 is a normally aspirated engine and does not benefit much from an ECU.

[S5xy]

Wait for the JHM release. It looks very promising. Like stated above, none of the current tunes have shown any significant increases in real life (maybe 5whp/5lb-ft max?).

[staticuxo]

Wait for the JHM release. It looks very promising. Like stated above, none of the current tunes have shown any significant increases in real life (maybe 5whp/5lb-ft max?).

this.

[Barela]

the idea was to bring the HP as close as possible to 400 with as little $$$ as possible... any ideas?

[staticuxo]

the idea was to bring the HP as close as possible to 400 with as little $$$ as possible... any ideas?

JHM has proven with actual 1/4 mile times to be the leader in tuning the 4.2L V8 time and time again. i had JHM tune on my B7 S4 and it really woke the car up and improved throttle response.. even made the car sound different- deeper tone and more gurgle-y.

[GSS5]

the idea was to bring the HP as close as possible to 400 with as little $$$ as possible... any ideas?

the single best mod you can do for the v8 s5 is an exhaust..more specifically an awe track exhaust. in addition to the sound, i feel that the exhaust has really opened up the car overall. i feel better throttle response, more torque in the mid-range and the car is overall just more fun to drive. awe claims 12hp and 18tq increase at the crank. gains probably aren't to that extent, but they are noticeable.

[S5xy]

the idea was to bring the HP as close as possible to 400 with as little $$$ as possible... any ideas?

And staticuxo and I just told you...? The list of tunes you posted does the complete opposite of what you're aiming for (instead of as less money for the most hp, it's the most money for the least hp).

[gd10]

the single best mod you can do for the v8 s5 is an exhaust..more specifically an awe track exhaust. in addition to the sound, i feel that the exhaust has really opened up the car overall. i feel better throttle response, more torque in the mid-range and the car is overall just more fun to drive. awe claims 12hp and 18tq increase at the crank. gains probably aren't to that extent, but they are noticeable.

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[BlkS5]

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X3 but I am very happy with the BB sport exhaust. Better looking, no drone, and the same performance. But add the AWE air filter, the exhaust gets more air out so you want more air in. Then the JHM tune.

[audi1234]

first off NEVER go with PES TUNING...... wait for the JHM tune to be released in the next couple months that is where my money is going

[B00sted20VUSP]

PES tuning is NO good my brotha! Anyhoooo any updates on when JHM will release there software?

[S5xy]

^ They told me that more information on it will be released in March. Can't wait!

[Barela]

i already have the awe filter... stasis ohlins will be soon installed... now wait for the jhm program and shop for a nice exhaust (not too loud like the magnaflow i had on a4)

[B00sted20VUSP]

^ They told me that more information on it will be released in March. Can't wait!

Exccceellllentt

[gd10]

what makes you guys think that JHM can get more horsepower gains then the other companies? It is a N/A motor, you will never get any noticeable gains for the money.

[BlackFox]

yea what exactly is the key point that has JHM as a frontrunner? is it mostly based on the results they've shown/reputation?

[staticuxo]

what makes you guys think that JHM can get more horsepower gains then the other companies? It is a N/A motor, you will never get any noticeable gains for the money.

i'll state it again: they have proven it time and time again with the B6/7 S4 and now RS4. they have the only 12 second NA V8s.. if you don't think that's proof, i don't know what else is.

their bolt on cars pull on the supercharged cars! haven't you seen these videos before?

this 12 second run was recently and done with a restrictive 2.25" dia exhaust:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...t-for-the-12-s

do some more research, there's plenty of info out there.

yea what exactly is the key point that has JHM as a frontrunner? is it mostly based on the results they've shown/reputation?

yes, proven results with the 4.2L.

[tboooe]

I like APR but hate that fact that the ECU needs to be sent it. However, when I do this, I would get the pulley upgrade too which only leaves me the option of APR for now. GIAC seems like they have a nice tune and the benefit is that the dealer can do the flash so you will get your car back that day. I hear AWE is working on pulley upgrade for GIAC?

[BlackFox]

well then there you have it! JHM should drop it in the next couple of months staticuxo?

[Beast]

the single best mod you can do for the v8 s5 is an exhaust..more specifically an awe track exhaust. in addition to the sound, i feel that the exhaust has really opened up the car overall. i feel better throttle response, more torque in the mid-range and the car is overall just more fun to drive. awe claims 12hp and 18tq increase at the crank. gains probably aren't to that extent, but they are noticeable.

+1

[mxrz]

i was leaning towards the PES tuning...

heh, you should talk to B6 3.2L V6 guys about PES tuning... You'll be running for the hills when they're done.

[nsurf79]

I had a JHM tune on my car and it was bad ass. Throttle response, rpm revs faster, you can flash your ecu in 1 hour and be on the road. I also hear it does not use the front 02 sensor on the exhaust, so you can do piggie mod yourself and not throw a check engine light. I got rid of the S4 for an S5. going to see if they have the tune for it and it will be my first upgrade to my 09 S5.

[bunnone]

Where is this long lost JHM tune? Have they released it for the B8 4.2 S5? Any updates?

[GKTS4]

Where is this long lost JHM tune? Have they released it for the B8 4.2 S5? Any updates?

I was actually at their facility a couple of months ago and got the tune on my 2012 S5. I would suggest giving them a call and seeing what they can do for you. Definitely feel the tune was well worth it.

[thenewbruno]

Aye I just got the JHM tune over the weekend. Going to write a review shortly.

[Deleos]

Aye I just got the JHM tune over the weekend. Going to write a review shortly.

What day do you think you'll make your post? I am very interested in finding out what they did with their tune.

[S5Buzz]

What day do you think you'll make your post? I am very interested in finding out what they did with their tune.

+1

[i1overice]

Aye I just got the JHM tune over the weekend. Going to write a review shortly.

Hopefully with a baseline and post dyno?

[thenewbruno]

Sorry, no dynos. I'm of the school that quarter mile time slips are why we buy this performance-enhancing product over that. And to that point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99AT3ET6lZo

Anyhow, I LOVE the tune. It's exactly what the car needed.

As far as the process - if you can manage to install programming of any kind on your computer, and can install a driver for a cable on your own, then you're capable of doing it yourself. I did so and therefore saved myself the sales tax chargeable by taking the car to a local JHM dealer. The provided instructions are thorough and easy to follow. Thanks, JHM, for taking the time to write them.

The second we fired it up post-tune, the idle was noticeably and remarkably smooth as silk.

Then as we pulled out of the driveway I immediately noticed that the car would seamlessly and quickly accelerate through first gear, with little gas. That was a change.

Next I tested the pet peeve sluggish acceleration in 2-3 prior to 2700rpm with medium throttle. Said sluggish acceleration is gone; replaced with smooth brisk acceleration. Now, if you put your foot fairly well down at 1500rpm in 2nd, you'll quickly find yourself linearly shooting right on up, whereas before you have to waaaaaiiiiit to get to 2700 for it to start to charge.

The car is just so much more lively. Love it. What it really needed was a bump to the low end and now it's got it. If you pump the gas without warning your passenger they'll hit their head on the back of their headrest. And if said passenger is a woman wearing a hair clip, she'll say "ow" and you'll say "oops, sorry."

I can't stress enough how smooth and linear the engine spools up now.

We tried the launch control (YES, YOU GET FREE LAUNCH CONTROL WITH THIS TUNE!) and found various characteristics present that are best demonstrated via video which will be done asap.

Once I was finished driving in a "testing the tune" manner I went about various "usual routine" driving maneuvers and was greeted with the new tune prodding at me. For example, when turning off the main road into my neighborhood, you know, you brake, turn the wheel, then get back on the gas. And go up that little hill towards the next turn. Totally routine. I did my usual braking, usual turning the wheel, and got back on the gas to go up the little hill, using my "usual" application of throttle like I've done countless times. Well, the car charged up the little hill, and I went "whoa!"

So much for "normal."

What really strikes me is how much more eager the car is to briskly move away as you start driving. That's precisely what I wanted. I couldn't care less if another tune (whose identity I'm unaware of) might show 5 more hp than mine at 6600rpm on a dyno. I care about how the car feels to drive now vs before. That's what I paid for.

LOVE the tune. Thanks JHM.

I'll follow up with some video footage of the launch control sometime soon. In car and outside.

[Jake@JHM]

We will be officially release the software soon! If you have an S5 4.2L, shoot an email to [email protected] to get it pre-release!

[Canadianwraith]

Matt, I'm going to have to get some seat dyno time in your beast. It was already sweet with the Fast Intensions exhaust. I think I'll have to go with JHM as well!

[Jake@JHM]

Matt, I'm going to have to get some seat dyno time in your beast. It was already sweet with the Fast Intensions exhaust. I think I'll have to go with JHM as well!

You wouldn't regret it

[Canadianwraith]

You wouldn't regret it

I will email tomorrow for info. Thanks

[bunnone]

Thank you all for the updates and information! I will be contacting JHM to discuss.

Regards, Duane

[thenewbruno]

So I've had the tune 4 days now. Still re-learning how to drive the car smoothly, and finding subtleties in what the tune has changed. It seems JHM's mission was to not only get the car moving but also enhance the overall drivability regardless of acceleration rate.

One example is how I modulate gas/clutch to go from a stop. Pre-tune it was feather both pedals with rpm fluctuating between 1100-1200 until the clutch pedal was all the way out. With JHM tune it's feather the clutch out without touching the gas. A smooth 600rpm takeup with NO lurching or rpm bouncing around and dipping results. It's remarkable, smooth as silk, great for clutch life and a subtle but glowing example of how good JHM is at doing what they do.

I really wouldn't be worried about dyno sheets. The tune with the highest peak hp at stratospheric rpm on a dyno does not at all = the tune to buy, ignoring everything else the various tunes have to offer.

The way I look at it is..... IF my concern were top peak hp figure from a dyno, and therefore how fast I potentially will get to go......I wouldn't have even bought this car. For the money I have in this S5 Christ I could be driving a crazy-turbocharged somethingorother that would embarrass many late model Italian supercars in a straight line. But clearly, I wasn't out to be the absolute fastest car on the road for the money I had. I was out to be an S5 guy. So.....who cares about a dyno? Gimme a tune that makes my car drive better, in many real world driving conditions. That's the JHM.

So if you're reading this thread, you're an S5 guy. You didn't drop large coin on the absolute fastest car you could get for your $XX,000 . You dropped it on an S5 because you wanted to be an S5 guy. The JHM tune is a way to significantly enjoy your car more.

[Jeff V.]

The way I look at it is..... IF my concern were top peak hp figure from a dyno, and therefore how fast I potentially will get to go......I wouldn't have even bought this car. For the money I have in this S5 Christ I could be driving a crazy-turbocharged somethingorother that would embarrass many late model Italian supercars in a straight line. But clearly, I wasn't out to be the absolute fastest car on the road for the money I had. I was out to be an S5 guy. So.....who cares about a dyno? Gimme a tune that makes my car drive better, in many real world driving conditions. That's the JHM.

That's pretty much the same opinion I have. If I was after raw performance, I'd have bought a Corvette. That said, a dyno chart would still be useful. Not for peak numbers, but to see how the overall power and torque curves changed. If your peak torque stayed unchanged but you picked up 15 ft-lbs from 1000-2500 RPM, that'd still have a noticeable improvement on drivability.

Dyno chart or not, I'll probably be looking into this after I get my exhaust later this year. Thanks for the feedback.

[Canadianwraith]

I had my car dyno'd a couple of months back, the car is bone stock. Once the exhaust, a cold air intake and the JHM tune are all on then I will dyno again and post the numbers

[AlecPiroso]

I recently got a 2015 S5 (2 months ago), I bought it so I was thinking its about time to put something into it. I was thinking a tune would be the first thing I do. How would I go about getting one and where? I live in Miami