Akrapovic Exhaust Vs AWE Touring for Automatic S5

[RadDoc]

Hey guys was wondering if anybody out there has been able to compare these in person. I like the Akrapovic because it has the option to switch back to near-stock with the wireless button. Of course, everybody raves about the AWE touring. Trying to get some opinions from those that have seen BOTH before I pull the trigger. Thanks guys.

[tboooe]

I would be interested in this as well! I Akrapovic exhausts exclusively back in my motorcycle racing days and can attest to their quality.

[TofuShop]

Akrapovic costs 4,000$ USD

[sirmium]

i think it's much less than that, i think in $2500 range, and optional wireless kit is $800

[S5xy]

Yeah, it costs about $3k with the wireless kit. A Touring Exhaust wouldn't be as loud but the Track Edition definitely sounds similar to the Akrapovic, for almost half the price. Unless the valving option for the Akra is a make-or-break for you, I say just stick with AWE.

[RadDoc]

Yup! So priced out Akrapovic is about $2600 with wireless kit and AWE is about 1700. Both new of course. for the 900 bucks I wouldn't mind the valve option. I would like to see what you guys think about the sound. Would love to get more opinions out there.

[tboooe]

Yup! So priced out Akrapovic is about $2600 with wireless kit and AWE is about 1700. Both new of course. for the 900 bucks I wouldn't mind the valve option. I would like to see what you guys think about the sound. Would love to get more opinions out there.

Hmmm...not too bad. I am very intrigued!

[S5xy]

Akrapovic has great quality and definitely will not disappoint you. I've heard the Akra system for the V8 S5 in person, and it sounds similar to the AWE Track but more roary/blurpy. I say if you have the means to do so, go for the Akra simply for the valving option :)

[RadDoc]

Wondering if we could get a GROUPBUY started for the Akrapovic...

[RadDoc]

Nice! Were you able to see the optional valve option in action. Did it quieten it down any when not activated?

[CampioniShop]

Group buys on Akrapovics are impossible, they strictly enforce unilateral pricing.

However we can get the Akrapovic for anyone interested :) Let us know!

[RadDoc]

Hi what is the pricing you guys can do?

[S5xy]

Nice! Were you able to see the optional valve option in action. Did it quieten it down any when not activated?

Yes, works exactly like Akra describes it. Tones down the volume way down at idle and WOT. There's a couple of clips of it on YouTube that you can check out, if you haven't already. The most-viewed ones do a fairly accurate job of capturing the sound, IMO.

[Beast]

go with AWE

[CampioniShop]

Hi what is the pricing you guys can do?

You have a PM!

[dbcperformance]

Shoot us an email at [email protected] or call at (210)399-1172 for special AZ pricing on AWE exhaust system guys. We would love the opportunity to earn your business.

Berk

[Brizerkus76]

Hi guys. Well, it looks like I found a decent price for getting the Akrapovic exhaust installed here in Germany. The one question I have, what is the benefit of purchasing the optional link-pipe? Is it more for weight reduction or could it also serve another function? I really don't see a need for it, but was wondering if it effected the exhaust note or capability of the system as a whole. Thanks.

[Beast]

Post a vid after

[Eurosport]

Hi guys. Well, it looks like I found a decent price for getting the Akrapovic exhaust installed here in Germany. The one question I have, what is the benefit of purchasing the optional link-pipe? Is it more for weight reduction or could it also serve another function? I really don't see a need for it, but was wondering if it effected the exhaust note or capability of the system as a whole. Thanks.

definitely get the link pipe, it's not used for weight reduction since it's not a huge piece, but what it's used for is requires no cutting of your original exhaust, basicly it links all the way to where it's bolt on, that's what the link pipe is used for.

i have Akrapovic but 6sp manual, be prepared for a little drone at somewhere between 1.1k to 1.7k RPMs, i have talked with another owner that has the same car/setup and same drone in same position exists, it's no problem for me since it's manual doesn't spend any time in that rpm anyway but with automatic would be different story i imagine. i have not seen it mentioned anywhere since it's not like Akrapovic for our cars are all over the place like AWE, just do keep that in mind the drone is there but only in that rpm range give or take a few rpms.

regarding quality, it's leagues above AWE exhaust (and yes i did inquire about going AWE touring when i got mine this autumn), when you see it in person you'd understand, the welds are gorgeous, the finish is gorgeous, tips are titanium and huuuge plus can fit them easily in what spot you want (aka more inner hidden/more outside the bumper as you wish). even the packaging is gorgeous, wait until you see the big box it comes in haha

the sound? better in person than any online video i have heard during my couple weeks of searching for the right exhaust...puts the official Akra video to shame, it sounds that good

[kevinham]

I have Eisenmann Race.. Consider this one as well if you are looking for something little bit different :)
Every time i step on gas i am.......... in LOVE!~~~

[sirmium]

So Akrapovich shows dyno gain of only +2hp vs AWE +18hp. How much is it real gain, and how much is dyno bs? I dont see anyone talking gains, sound only. Also does anyone know diameter of Akrapovich exaust, is it same as AWE 2.5"?

Akrapovich Specs
AWE Specs

[whiteq]

Is there still drone with the valve closed off? Is there a big difference in noise with the valves closed? I have ordered one here in Australia and am really hoping the valves will make a big difference in terms of quieting the car during general driving.

A lot of my driving is just cruising around so with occasional burst which is why I wants the valuing option. Btw prices of them here are even more expensive!

Thanks

[DavidB8]

The Akra on my Bike cost me more than the AWE on my car.. Very expensive systems but they have great quality. They are the rolls royce of exhaust systems.

[Bullwheel]

Just some feedback about loud systems in combination with automatic and the drone thing....

Just installed the CARGRAPHIC race version on my automatic! (Got it for a good price as the EURO was weak...)
When I drive it in manual mode it is a blast and sounds great.
If I use standard automatic mode ....yeah then it drones like crazy during accelerating. (CARGRAPHIC warned me...so no blame!)

For the moment it is ok for me, but one day I might switch to a valve system...and then it will be AKRAPOVIC as CAPRISTO charges just too much.

[tboooe]

The Akra on my Bike cost me more than the AWE on my car.. Very expensive systems but they have great quality. They are the rolls royce of exhaust systems.

David, what bike do you have? I used to own 2 bikes that I raced, Honda NSR 250cc 2 stroke, NC35 400cc V-four 4 stroke. Great little bikes! And agreed, Akra exhausts are awesome from bikes. I had it on my V-four. There is a reason so many MotoGp teams use them!

[Brizerkus76]

definitely get the link pipe, it's not used for weight reduction since it's not a huge piece, but what it's used for is requires no cutting of your original exhaust, basicly it links all the way to where it's bolt on, that's what the link pipe is used for.

Thanks for the info EuroSport. If I get the exhaust I'm guessing I will get the link pipe. The only problem now is that the shop I contacted wants 500 euros to install (5 hrs/work). I know that prices for service here in Europe are crazy to begin with, but that cost seems completely insane to me. If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for installation and how long did it take? I don't want to take the risk of doing it myself. .

As far as the drone. . .I have the same question as whiteq. . .does the drone exist when the valves are closed? I'd hate to spend all this cash just to hear drone during daily driving. .

[Beast]

get STaSiS exhaust the new one is a monster

[sirmium]

get STaSiS exhaust the new one is a monster

So is there a difference between older and new Stasis exhaust? Where can we hear the new one?

And to quote my question from earlier:

So Akrapovich shows dyno gain of only +2hp vs AWE +18hp. How much is it real gain, and how much is dyno bs? I dont see anyone talking gains, sound only.

[S5xy]

^ AWE's is bs, Akra's is likely true. Anyways, you will not notice any difference at all and your 0-100 time will be literally unaffected.

[Todd/AWE]

^ AWE's is bs, Akra's is likely true. Anyways, you will not notice any difference at all and your 0-100 time will be literally unaffected.

Well, it's not really an apples to apples comparison in terms of power claims.

Akrapovic is advertising their gains with their "slip on" system, which only replaces the rear factory mufflers.

Our system is a full system, replacing everything after the downpipes. We conducted extremely thorough dyno tests using our in house Mustang AWD chassis dyno, and will stand by our power claims 100%.


Other notes:

Our Touring Edition incorporates a muffler we designed at the mid point in the exhaust (where Akrapovic offers a straight through optional link pipe). We have determined that without a muffler at that middle position, there is a very distinct possibility of drone.

Further, we use a highly engineered sound cancellation approach with our rear resonator design. This concept kills all drone at part throttle without the use of valves or power robbing internal baffles. This produces a full, rich, exotic tone at full throttle, and extremely civilized, drone-free performance at part throttle.

Akrapovic makes an extremely beautiful exhaust, I'm just pointing out where the power and functional differences lay.

[S5xy]

Yeah, I agree with the difference in comparison but both systems will still translate to 1-5whp and 1-5 lb/tq? I've always stood by AWE products but yeah, aftermarket exhausts for our cars literally add nothing in noticeable power!

[Beast]

who gets a custom exhaust on the S5/A5 for performance anyway LOL

[mxrz]

who gets a custom exhaust on the S5/A5 for performance anyway LOL

I did, for nearly 20awhp peak gain.

[Beast]

Yeah your a special guy. most ppl when they are looking for an exhaust its for the sound. Lets be honest.

[tboooe]

Yeah, I agree with the difference in comparison but both systems will still translate to 1-5whp and 1-5 lb/tq? I've always stood by AWE products but yeah, aftermarket exhausts for our cars literally add nothing in noticeable power!

+1 Thats exactly why exhaust is probably going to last on my list of mods to do and I will probably only do it if I am totally bored with the car! I would probably just like the change out the tips to something like the cool black diamond ones AWE has.

[Beast]

dont spend more on the black tips, get the chrome ones and let them get dirty= black :D

[tboooe]

dont spend more on the black tips, get the chrome ones and let them get dirty= black :D

I like your style!

[Beast]

:D thanks haha i heard someone else on here say that so cant take credit

[Eurosport]

Thanks for the info EuroSport. If I get the exhaust I'm guessing I will get the link pipe. The only problem now is that the shop I contacted wants 500 euros to install (5 hrs/work). I know that prices for service here in Europe are crazy to begin with, but that cost seems completely insane to me. If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for installation and how long did it take? I don't want to take the risk of doing it myself. .

As far as the drone. . .I have the same question as whiteq. . .does the drone exist when the valves are closed? I'd hate to spend all this cash just to hear drone during daily driving. .

that quote you got is insane, it doesn't take 5hr to swap the exhaust ;p
just try a muffler shop...
i did it myself backed up on race ramps, only need someone to help when lowering original exhaust since it's all one piece, and with aligning/centering, fit is spot on though, doesn't require many adjustments.
for any muffler shop with a lift would be a breeze to install

[TheDapperDriver]

I have the AWE track with downpipes
its perfect!!
if you have an auto like I do, dont get stasis, it droned so much, I took it off after a month of having it