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    Engine Splash Shield/Belly pan

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    Hello everyone, I need some input on an engine splash shield replacement. I drive a B6 1.8t quattro, and I prefer not to pay $250 for one, call me cheap. As a result, I have located a couple of reasonable options, links below. More importantly, I'm wondering if any of these options would work for my ride. Also, could I make a manual trans shield work for my car?

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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ENGINE-S...ht_4128wt_1141

    http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B6_A4-...Pan/ES2499506/

    http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sk...gs+Best+Seller

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    The Polcar belly pan is a great OEM replacment for an even better price! Althought it will not offer the same proctection a skid plate would. It will improve gas milage, cooling, and reduce under body noise/turbulance.

    Jason

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    I have no idea why it says for manual transmissions only. As far as I know theyre 100% interchangable between 1.8T/3.0, quattro/FWD, manual/automatic
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    Quote Originally Posted by onceover View Post
    I have no idea why it says for manual transmissions only. As far as I know theyre 100% interchangable between 1.8T/3.0, quattro/FWD, manual/automatic
    Not to mention B6/B7. Its like the motor mounts that are listed as side specific or transmission specific...
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    My belly pan has a hole in it when I scraped it, wondering how the Polcar version is compared to the OEM one. I don't want fitment issues or for it to damage easily...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings onceover's Avatar
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    All of the OEM style ones damage easily. If you want something that will last, get a dieselgeek or evolution one.

    Or make your own: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...DIY?highlight=
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTQ View Post
    My belly pan has a hole in it when I scraped it, wondering how the Polcar version is compared to the OEM one. I don't want fitment issues or for it to damage easily...
    Polar is an exact replica of the OEM belly pan. There's not fitment issues to be expected. It's made of a more "rubberized" plastic rather than the brittle plastic that OEM is made of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS Tuning-Audi View Post
    Polar is an exact replica of the OEM belly pan. There's not fitment issues to be expected. It's made of a more "rubberized" plastic rather than the brittle plastic that OEM is made of.

    Jason
    it would help if they were in stock :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by the sheriff View Post
    it would help if they were in stock :)
    Aw damn. I was just about to go hunting for one as well but if they arent in stock thats not gonna help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the sheriff View Post
    it would help if they were in stock :)

    You can always click the "auto notify" option on our site and enter your e-mail. As soon as they get back in stock you'll get an e-mail notifying you.

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    hmmm, never noticed these Jason...would you guys do a group buy on them? im sure we could get plenty of people interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    hmmm, never noticed these Jason...would you guys do a group buy on them? im sure we could get plenty of people interested.
    +1 for a group buy on these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    hmmm, never noticed these Jason...would you guys do a group buy on them? im sure we could get plenty of people interested.
    We actually do not offer any specific discounts/group buys as we try to price our products as competitive as possible so everyone can take advantage of the same savings.

    Never hurts to ask though!

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    I would just pay the money for a Panzer or thor evolution skid plate. Do it right once so you don't have to do it again. Those plastic and rubberized plastic ones just don't hold up for abuse that our lower audis take.

    http://www.dieselgeek.com/B6_or_B7_A..._p/pp-b6b7.htm

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    You may not want to pay the money now, but I highly suggest either of these. My skid plate has already paid for itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS Tuning-Audi View Post
    We actually do not offer any specific discounts/group buys as we try to price our products as competitive as possible so everyone can take advantage of the same savings.

    Never hurts to ask though!

    Jason
    you guys used to do group buys on things...shit, my s4 blades i bought through you guys was a GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    you guys used to do group buys on things...shit, my s4 blades i bought through you guys was a GB.
    Correct, but unfortunately that is no longer the case. Rather than adjusting the price for a few people once we would rather meet some where in the middle and offer competitive pricing for everyone.

    To be honest you really wont find a better deal on an OEM belly pan then our Polcar - under 100 bucks shipped to your door for free! Considering how large the box is that's a steal!

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    Is there any consensus on which plate may be better overall between the Panzer and Thor units? Main criteria I'd be interested in is quality (fitment and materials), design (function), ease of install and removal (for oil changing).
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    I always forget to put that damn thing back on.

    Im ususally too drunk by the end of whatever install im doing to put it back on .
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo1324 View Post
    I always forget to put that damn thing back on.

    Im ususally too drunk by the end of whatever install im doing to put it back on .
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    Quote Originally Posted by onceover View Post
    I feel bad for your car
    Hahaha!

    I've got two belly pans and a Auto Trans rear pan chilling inmy shed right now. No reason to put them back on when the cars are going under the knife constantly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Hahaha!

    I've got two belly pans and a Auto Trans rear pan chilling inmy shed right now. No reason to put them back on when the cars are going under the knife constantly...
    seriously, they're just a pain in the ass to keep pulling on and off.....I just said screw em.......and while I've said that, I'm now thinking about picking one up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the sheriff View Post
    seriously, they're just a pain in the ass to keep pulling on and off.....I just said screw em.......and while I've said that, I'm now thinking about picking one up.
    Tell me about it. Its not liek they're hard to take on and off, it literally takes less than 5 minutes, its just a pain. I hate repeating work over and over...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbavanttro View Post
    Is there any consensus on which plate may be better overall between the Panzer and Thor units? Main criteria I'd be interested in is quality (fitment and materials), design (function), ease of install and removal (for oil changing).
    7

    I can't speak on the Thor because I have a Panzer, but taking the skid plate for an oil change is easy. Two screws per side, One on the front, and two 17MM bolts that are treaded into the sub frame on the back. Its just as easy as the stock plastic belly pan with 6 screws. Quality is great and I haven't had any issues. They salt the roads in Nebraska and I haven't had any problems in two years.

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    if you were local use sell you my OEM one that i just bought and used twice before taking it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbavanttro View Post
    Is there any consensus on which plate may be better overall between the Panzer and Thor units? Main criteria I'd be interested in is quality (fitment and materials), design (function), ease of install and removal (for oil changing).
    I have the panzer plate, had zero fitment issues, have yet to take it off but imagine it would be just as easy as it went on lol

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    Thanks blackfc3s and asullivan. Good to know, thanks for posting. Any Thor users out there care to provide some user feedback?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackfc3s View Post
    7

    I can't speak on the Thor because I have a Panzer, but taking the skid plate for an oil change is easy. Two screws per side, One on the front, and two 17MM bolts that are treaded into the sub frame on the back. Its just as easy as the stock plastic belly pan with 6 screws. Quality is great and I haven't had any issues. They salt the roads in Nebraska and I haven't had any problems in two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Tell me about it. Its not liek they're hard to take on and off, it literally takes less than 5 minutes, its just a pain. I hate repeating work over and over...
    How do you think it feels to be an Audi tech doing this all day :|

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    I dont mind the monotonous wrenching tasks, but I would not want to do it in any sort of production mode like in a shop or at a dealer. That would take all of the fun out of it for me.

    I only hate wrenching when stuff doesn't fit the way it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onceover View Post
    I feel bad for your car
    dont, she loves it. ill bet my car can drink your car under the table
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    Quote Originally Posted by waldo1324 View Post
    dont, she loves it. ill bet my car can drink your car under the table
    Oh she's that kind of princess? I'm picturing the princess from spaceballs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackfc3s View Post
    I would just pay the money for a Panzer or thor evolution skid plate. Do it right once so you don't have to do it again. Those plastic and rubberized plastic ones just don't hold up for abuse that our lower audis take.

    http://www.dieselgeek.com/B6_or_B7_A..._p/pp-b6b7.htm

    http://www.3zero3motorsports.com/sto...-s4-c5-audi-a6

    You may not want to pay the money now, but I highly suggest either of these. My skid plate has already paid for itself.
    This.

    Given that my car is lowered and the winters we have here, There's no question in terms of what to use...

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbavanttro View Post
    Is there any consensus on which plate may be better overall between the Panzer and Thor units? Main criteria I'd be interested in is quality (fitment and materials), design (function), ease of install and removal (for oil changing).
    I bought the Panzer plate based on what I perceived to be more coverage. With it in hand, there are a ton of little subtle bends, etc. It is a VERY well made piece, everything was included. Oil change removal takes a bit longer due to the two bolts vs. the OEM dzus fasteners....but that 20 seconds is worth the peace of mind should a semi drop a tire or a chunk of ice...
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    I got tired of wrestling with my OEM one and left it off. Lately I've been thinking about putting it back on (for a number of reasons)...and these aluminum versions look pretty nice.

    Maybe one of those two vendors would be up for a group buy? I'm liking the Thor...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boy412 View Post
    I got tired of wrestling with my OEM one and left it off. Lately I've been thinking about putting it back on (for a number of reasons)...and these aluminum versions look pretty nice.

    Maybe one of those two vendors would be up for a group buy? I'm liking the Thor...
    Don't bother trying for a GB. Dieselgeek won't do it, Evo just did one recently (I think?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by drjonez View Post
    Evo just did one recently (I think?).
    Bad timing strikes again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boy412 View Post
    Bad timing strikes again...
    I have a solidworks file at Onceover send me a while ago. I was going to make my own but decided just to fork over the money because I didnt have the time.

    if you would like the file, let me know. I can forward the PM.

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    Lovin the Panzer plate, has saved me a couple times this winter by crushing ice chunks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Oh she's that kind of princess? I'm picturing the princess from spaceballs...

    yes she is a dirty , trashy whore of a B6. i swear i saw her snorting brake dust .. what a skank
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwinTipSkier View Post
    3 ft. x 3 ft. Aluminum Sheet from Home Depot $21.98



    HO-LEE-sh*t... best thing I've seen in a while. LOVE IT. Can't believe I didn't think of that. Long weekend project... check.
    Riveted or bolts SleeperLoDo? I suppose anything will do...
    I just use Crown Bolt Stainless Steel Assortment Kit with Nuts and Washers from home depot
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