Okada Coil Packs....Thoughts..?

[FCPEuro]

Hey Guys, I was just looking into some aftermarket and performance parts that we are interested in adding to our website and I came across these Okada coils that we have available. I have read about these in the past when I was doing my 2871R build and have seen a few threads about them, but I wanted to get your feedback to see what your thoughts are, and if anyone would be interested in buying a set if they were reasonably priced. It looks like there have been several dyno-proven documented cases where these coils have increased power on pretty much stock vehicles, and are said to yield pretty substantial gains on BT and Meth setups when properly tuned. If any of you guys would be interested in getting a set let me know and we can talk about the Audizine "Introductory" pricing!

[guy022077]

I would consider it.

[TConklin821]

I've never heard of them, I'll do some research. I have been looking into the 2.0L coils, do you guys sell those?

[[email protected]]

As I posted in another thread:

I did dyno tests of the Okada coilpacks and there are power gains, most noticeable if you can adjust your timing to take advantage of the extra spark.

You will get way more gains from these coilpacks than using the B7 ones as shown in the plug and play test I did.

Expensive? Costs less than an exhaust which does nothing.

Here is the last test: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...38-spark-plugs

[wolverineottawa]

I was looking at then but I got in contact with another company that was offering something similar but had to ability to control the spark. I went with is and works amazing. I apologize for jacking the thread but I am sure both will do a good job all depends what you want to do with it, I would contact both companies.

[bmarshall]

I was looking at then but I got in contact with another company that was offering something similar but had to ability to control the spark. I went with is and works amazing. I apologize for jacking the thread but I am sure both will do a good job all depends what you want to do with it, I would contact both companies.

What is the other company?

[wolverineottawa]

www.spdispark.com

[TConklin821]

I wouldn't say an exhaust set up does nothing, when I made the turbo back for mine I noticed a huge difference. I'll check these coil packs out though, definitely.

[wolverineottawa]

The biggest restrictions of flow are the cat and muffler. High flow cat and muffler there will be gains just a matter of how much. Obviously there are many factors that contribute to it but you should feel something. I am looking into the Billy Boat Exhaust system so for Loving the sound, for me that is what matters I am not building this car to be a race car but a fun street car.

[mysman]

These systems make a lot more sense the the 2.0 coil pack upgrade that is popular right now. The problem, aside from cost... are these guys going to be around in five or ten years? Like MSD or Jacobs.

[wolverineottawa]

These systems make a lot more sense the the 2.0 coil pack upgrade that is popular right now. The problem, aside from cost... are these guys going to be around in five or ten years? Like MSD or Jacobs.

Well that all depends on sales right...lol. From being around the SPDI-Spark guys this is here to stay, on gas mileage alone you will make your investigate back, again that all depends on how many miles you drive per year if they can get big tuning companies on board that can offer a tune and the system with proven results.......its a no brainer at that point.

My car will be a huge testing ground, its going to a tuning company on the 7th and we will see what can be done.

[hazard860]

I just ordered a 2.0t ICM delete kit from 034, so if i could run these coils yes, i would be interested..... at a reasonable price.

[wolverineottawa]

I just ordered a 2.0t ICM delete kit from 034, so if i could run these coils yes, i would be interested..... at a reasonable price.

Send them an email see what happens.

[hazard860]

email sent, i'll post back when i get a response.

[ice rckt]

Winston:

I suppose the question on everyone's (or possibly just my) mind is: are you still running the same set of Okada coils that you bought in 2010? How much mileage on them?

I've been running a set of Beru 1.8T-style coils since 2010; ~35,000Km on a stock '94 S4 and now ~12,000mi on my 3071 '95 S6. Still not a hiccup from them (touch wood). I lost my first R coil at about 40,000Km on the S4 before trying the full set of Berus. Now, assuming that these Berus won't last forever... have you gone ~1.5 years trouble-free with the Okadas?? I've only recently started researching plasma ignition and above all marketing BS I value peoples experiences with the product :). Not to say that all marketing is BS; I have a hard time keeping an open mind anytime the word 'revolutionary' is used to pitch a product.

The biggest downside to a 5-cyl setup is that it'll cost me 25% more than advertised for the 4-cyl setups lol.

Any/all feedback is much appreciated!

-Erik

As I posted in another thread:

I did dyno tests of the Okada coilpacks and there are power gains, most noticeable if you can adjust your timing to take advantage of the extra spark.

You will get way more gains from these coilpacks than using the B7 ones as shown in the plug and play test I did.

Expensive? Costs less than an exhaust which does nothing.

Here is the last test: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...38-spark-plugs

[Turbo Nerd]

Get the 034 coils..... Oh look I have some for sale, check my sig and shoot me a PM.

[Seerlah]

^Will the AAN upgrade fit our vehicle? I always knew the ones in the link were the ones we were supposed to use, and then they have a different one for people using their standalone system.

http://www.034motorsport.com/ignitio...ade-p-449.html

And ice rckt, Winston sold his B6 a little while back. One of this section's moderators (Jim aka onemoremile) runs those. He said he averaged over 30mpg (can't recall exact) with these coils. But he picked them up for dirt cheap. Can't remember how, though.

[ice rckt]

Get the 034 coils..... Oh look I have some for sale, check my sig and shoot me a PM.

I have a set in my trunk lol. My S6 came with them (along with the turbo and other goodies). Blew one coil, bought a replacement (lifetime warranty is not transferable), blew the replacement, bought another, blew another, sent coils/harness to 034 for testing, installed my apikol 1.8T conversion harness with Beru coils and never took them out. Thought the Beru weren't meant to stand-up to higher power cars; dyno'd 333/315 at the wheels in November with the Berus and she's still running strong

^Will the AAN upgrade fit our vehicle? I always knew the ones in the link were the ones we were supposed to use, and then they have a different one for people using their standalone system.

http://www.034motorsport.com/ignitio...ade-p-449.html

And ice rckt, Winston sold his B6 a little while back. One of this section's moderators (Jim aka onemoremile) runs those. He said he averaged over 30mpg (can't recall exact) with these coils. But he picked them up for dirt cheap. Can't remember how, though.

Thanks for the heads-up... I'd still love to hear from anyone running the Okadas about their longevity.

[[email protected]]

Winston:

I suppose the question on everyone's (or possibly just my) mind is: are you still running the same set of Okada coils that you bought in 2010? How much mileage on them?

I've been running a set of Beru 1.8T-style coils since 2010; ~35,000Km on a stock '94 S4 and now ~12,000mi on my 3071 '95 S6. Still not a hiccup from them (touch wood). I lost my first R coil at about 40,000Km on the S4 before trying the full set of Berus. Now, assuming that these Berus won't last forever... have you gone ~1.5 years trouble-free with the Okadas?? I've only recently started researching plasma ignition and above all marketing BS I value peoples experiences with the product :). Not to say that all marketing is BS; I have a hard time keeping an open mind anytime the word 'revolutionary' is used to pitch a product.

The biggest downside to a 5-cyl setup is that it'll cost me 25% more than advertised for the 4-cyl setups lol.

Any/all feedback is much appreciated!

-Erik

Hi Erik,

I apologize for the delayed reply as I have been pretty busy as of late.

The car was running the same set of coils when I sold the car last summer. How much mileage? I couldn't give you a figure but I daily drove the car since the dyno test and there were no issues with the coilpacks.

There are quite a few people on AZ who purchased the Okada coilpacks during my group buys and only one person reported a failed coil which Okada replaced immediately. They did examine that coil and were perplexed as to why it failed as it a very abnormal event in their opinion.

IIRC diagnosticator and onemoremile would have been running the coils much longer than I have, but I may have been one of the first to use them for a big turbo application on a 1.8t and tuned the software to take advantage of the extra spark output. There are a few locals who have big turbo builds that are tuned around the Okada coilpaks and they are making very nice numbers. Outside of the Audi world there are a lot more people using this product on FI cars.

I am glad you are questioning their worth and if they work as I am in the same mindset. So I took it upon myself to prove that this product is not snake oil and it actually works before I put my name behind it.

If you have a NA setup then this would be an expensive upgrade for not much return in power, but if you are doing a turbo upgrade to a medium/larger turbo and have access to be able to tweak your software/fueling maps to take advantage of the spark then you will see healthy gains.

Regards,

Winston

[ice rckt]

Hi Erik,

I apologize for the delayed reply as I have been pretty busy as of late.

The car was running the same set of coils when I sold the car last summer. How much mileage? I couldn't give you a figure but I daily drove the car since the dyno test and there were no issues with the coilpacks.

There are quite a few people on AZ who purchased the Okada coilpacks during my group buys and only one person reported a failed coil which Okada replaced immediately. They did examine that coil and were perplexed as to why it failed as it a very abnormal event in their opinion.

IIRC diagnosticator and onemoremile would have been running the coils much longer than I have, but I may have been one of the first to use them for a big turbo application on a 1.8t and tuned the software to take advantage of the extra spark output. There are a few locals who have big turbo builds that are tuned around the Okada coilpaks and they are making very nice numbers. Outside of the Audi world there are a lot more people using this product on FI cars.

I am glad you are questioning their worth and if they work as I am in the same mindset. So I took it upon myself to prove that this product is not snake oil and it actually works before I put my name behind it.

If you have a NA setup then this would be an expensive upgrade for not much return in power, but if you are doing a turbo upgrade to a medium/larger turbo and have access to be able to tweak your software/fueling maps to take advantage of the spark then you will see healthy gains.

Regards,

Winston

Thank you for the reply Winston,

I'm currently running a 3071R with matching software from 034. Standalone isn't in the budget at the moment, and as I use the car daily I'm quite fond of the peace of mind offered by running a sorted tune. That said, I can't tweak my maps at the moment. I'm still curious about plasma though :)

Cheers,

Erik

[[email protected]]

You don't need SEM to take advantage of the Okada coils.

All the cars we tuned locally were running Eurodyne software and tuned using Maestro on a dyno. My car put down 400awhp using a small 680cc injector and drove with perfect street manners.

If I had to build another FI car I would tune it around a set of Okada's using meth injection for sure and not waste any time tuning around the stock coil packs.

[ice rckt]

You don't need SEM to take advantage of the Okada coils.

All the cars we tuned locally were running Eurodyne software and tuned using Maestro on a dyno. My car put down 400awhp using a small 680cc injector and drove with perfect street manners.

If I had to build another FI car I would tune it around a set of Okada's using meth injection for sure and not waste any time tuning around the stock coil packs.

'95 S6 = chiptune on Motronic 2.3.2. VEMS would be my choice considering the large number of people in the UrS4/6 community using this. Maestro would be awesome... Tapp is a 5 minute drive from my house :)

[ice rckt]

Well, fast-forward 5 months and I now have a SPDIspark.com system installed on my S6! I must say that impressions are great so far. Power is up and my highway mileage appears to be getting better and better (have only had the system on for 6 weeks at this point so will reserve 'conclusive' results for later). I can't speak to a change in my city mileage as I (still) tend to drive like an 18y/o lol. Also tested/installed a system on my moms 2.0T A4 and the results there were akin to having flash-tuned the car (the kicker is, if we do actually tune the car we can reprogram the SPDI module to work with the new tune. Car is bone stock currently: ECU, exhaust, airbox, dv, ic are all stock). Pretty impressed so far. I have a couple road-trips planned for the coming weeks so I'll have more data to report re: highway fuel economy.

[Jeffreykhow]

Hi ice rckt,

Could you give us an update or review on the setup after close to a year?

Cheers,
Jeff

Ho

Well, fast-forward 5 months and I now have a SPDIspark.com system installed on my S6! I must say that impressions are great so far. Power is up and my highway mileage appears to be getting better and better (have only had the system on for 6 weeks at this point so will reserve 'conclusive' results for later). I can't speak to a change in my city mileage as I (still) tend to drive like an 18y/o lol. Also tested/installed a system on my moms 2.0T A4 and the results there were akin to having flash-tuned the car (the kicker is, if we do actually tune the car we can reprogram the SPDI module to work with the new tune. Car is bone stock currently: ECU, exhaust, airbox, dv, ic are all stock). Pretty impressed so far. I have a couple road-trips planned for the coming weeks so I'll have more data to report re: highway fuel economy.

[rvca3112]

I'd be interested in one of these Okada setups. I have the 034 icm delete.

[arotished]

This means that you dont need the ICM to run the Okada coils?

[Sumo337]

https://www.ecstuning.com/ES2568560/ and https://www.ecstuning.com/ES1876879/ helped my 1.8t ATW worlds of better.

[[email protected]]

This means that you dont need the ICM to run the Okada coils?

If you have an ICM then they have a specific version of the coilpack for that.

[mysman]

Are the coilpacks tailored to specific to ECUs? The AEB, ATW, AWM, all use different dwell times.

[arotished]

If you have an ICM then they have a specific version of the coilpack for that.

yeah, PD4002101R for without ICM and PD6002101R with ICM.

But according to Okadas website, both are disconntinued.

[[email protected]]

Are the coilpacks tailored to specific to ECUs? The AEB, ATW, AWM, all use different dwell times.

You can see the variants listed here: http://ignitionprojects.com/catalog/...4-audi-ip-coil

yeah, PD4002101R for without ICM and PD6002101R with ICM.

But according to Okadas website, both are disconntinued.

Okada Project setup a NA domestic office and rebranded the product under Ignition Projects. All available B5A4 ignition coil products are listed in the link I provided above

[arotished]

If you have an ICM then they have a specific version of the coilpack for that.

http://ignitionprojects.com/products...-coil-audi-rs4

They only offer one kind of coil pack to my car and here it tells that the coils have the amplifier built into them, this means that I don't need the ICM's?

[[email protected]]

http://ignitionprojects.com/products...-coil-audi-rs4

They only offer one kind of coil pack to my car and here it tells that the coils have the amplifier built into them, this means that I don't need the ICM's?

I will ask my IP engineer and get back to you with an answer.

[nunya]

Did you all actually read the site provided:

"xenical over the counter alli prednisone 180 mg enquiry target generic zoloft best price for levitra 20mg The IP Coils are the ignition coil with a high power amplifier built in to it. The IP Coils produce 4 times more spark energy than stock coils and also generate an ultra fast multi spark discharge of 10 sparks up to highest RPM. The spark amperage is increased 100%, allowing the spark to reach many more molecules and therefore accelerate the ignition and combustion process. This is extremely important in forced induction applications but also improves the performance of normally aspirated engines. anchor low cost metoprolol lamictal coupon toprol free shipping inquiry buying viagra cuba"

You sure you wanna give them money?

http://ignitionprojects.com/catalog/...4-audi-ip-coil

--dillon

[[email protected]]

Did you all actually read the site provided:

"xenical over the counter alli prednisone 180 mg enquiry target generic zoloft best price for levitra 20mg The IP Coils are the ignition coil with a high power amplifier built in to it. The IP Coils produce 4 times more spark energy than stock coils and also generate an ultra fast multi spark discharge of 10 sparks up to highest RPM. The spark amperage is increased 100%, allowing the spark to reach many more molecules and therefore accelerate the ignition and combustion process. This is extremely important in forced induction applications but also improves the performance of normally aspirated engines. anchor low cost metoprolol lamictal coupon toprol free shipping inquiry buying viagra cuba"

You sure you wanna give them money?

http://ignitionprojects.com/catalog/...4-audi-ip-coil

--dillon

I don't know where you got that odd description from, but I have been selling their products for a few years now and Okada/Ignition Projects is real.

I sold a set for a Golf R last week and it was delivered today.

[Mad Cow]

I don't know where you got that odd description from, but I have been selling their products for a few years now and Okada/Ignition Projects is real.

I sold a set for a Golf R last week and it was delivered today.

It's a spambot, they're getting crafty these days and copy/pasting actual text from websites and other peoples' comments. I've seen them copy comments from a completely different thread with a similar subject and it didn't seem out of place at first read. If these people applied themselves to something useful they could probably make something neat, but instead they're spamming generic viagra on random forums.

EDIT: Nevermind I'm dumb, didn't see that they guy was actually legit. Dude probably has some weird spyware that inserts spam into copies text or something, I don't even know.

[nunya]

Im on linux. No spyware here. I copied it directly from the description in this URL:

http://ignitionprojects.com/catalog/...4-audi-ip-coil

[Mad Cow]

Im on linux. No spyware here. I copied it directly from the description in this URL:

http://ignitionprojects.com/catalog/...4-audi-ip-coil

Where did the generic drug spam bits come from then?

[arotished]

http://ignitionprojects.com/products...-coil-audi-rs4

It tells that these have the amplifier integrated into the coils, does this means that I don't need to have the ICM anymore on these coils?

[arotished]

Ignition Project is very very bad in answering emails.... 4 days without a reply now.