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    Seems like there have been a lot of motor mount replacement threads lately. I just replaced mine last Friday and I thought I would pass along a few tips from my installation. For starters here is an excellent write up from a4darkness: Clicky click. Some of you may not have seen it since it is buried in the middle of this thread: Clicky click Thomas's write up is on the money. I used the same Febi mounts that Thomas used. Best price I could find was from here: Clicky click (free shipping).

    In addition to what Thomas outlined I would suggest doing two more things. The drivers side is very strait forward but the riders side is a bit harder to get to. I went ahead and removed the right side headlight and the air-box assembly. It only adds another 10 minutes to the job and it gives you a lot more room to access the upper mounting stud. The second suggestion is that after you remove the nuts from the bottom motor mount attachment studs go ahead and cut the studs off flush with the support bracket. This will make it much easier to work the motor mounts out of position after you jack up the motor. My rider's side was leaking and consequently had become a bit misshapen. I ended up having to hacksaw the stud off with the motor mount half out and wedged in an awkward position. I would have been a lot easier to just do it from the start.

    Centering the mounts: I tightened up the top motor mount studs and left the lower ones loose. I also left the snub mount loose. I placed my ramps at the bottom of my slanted driveway so the car sat level even though the front end was on the ramps. With the car up to temperature and at idle I tightened up the lower motor mount studs. I slid the snub mount "cup" around to where it had no contact at all with the snub bushing and tightened it up. Absolutely vibration free idle:-)

    Like Thomas posted, I also noticed a difference in the handling with the new mounts. The steering just feels a lot crisper. I guess not having the motor wallowing around under the hood makes a difference.

    Hope the additional tips help someone out a little.

    Have fun!
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    I recently installed the same mounts and have been happy with them as well. I found it much easier to loosen the swaybar and swing it out of the way, then remove the brackets on which the mounts sit (3 bolts per side), rather than jacking up the engine and trying to get the mounts out/in at an awkward angle.
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    You know, Matt, I thought about going that route but I figured it would be less work just jacking up the motor. After fighting out the riders side I probably would have been better off doing it the way you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    You know, Matt, I thought about going that route but I figured it would be less work just jacking up the motor. After fighting out the riders side I probably would have been better off doing it the way you did.
    the top nut on the pass side is definitely still a pain though. Like you, I pulled the headlight and airbox which makes it 100x easier. I actually did mine when I installed my GTRS, so the turbo was out of the way too, making it ridiculously easy.
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    right on as always OG, any thoughts on the solid rubber passat mounts?
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    Old_guy, guess maybe I'll have to tackle this...

    I order alot from AutohausAZ, great company... but are you sure this part number 8D0199379K Febi Motor Mounts will work on my 2004 A4 1.8T Tiptronic? Would hate the buy the wrong ones.
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    Yes, the 8D0199379K mounts do work on all the B5 and B6 models. Consider instead our Corteco brand. They're a more durable product, and in our experience are lasting longer than the Chinese Febi counterpart.

    8D0199379K Corteco

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    how about diy and parts for the 3.0?
    I could write something cliché and insightful, but that would be too cliché and insightful.
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    Since I noticed my passenger side mount has started to leak when I was under the car last weekend I guess this in my near future. ? about the way Matt Devo suggested: I'm still using the jack to lift the motor a little correct? Haven't looked it yet but trying to get a rough idea in my head.

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    wow 38 dollars each for those Febi mounts that is a steal. If I needed new mounts I would deff buy these in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by my1stturbo View Post
    Since I noticed my passenger side mount has started to leak when I was under the car last weekend I guess this in my near future. ? about the way Matt Devo suggested: I'm still using the jack to lift the motor a little correct? Haven't looked it yet but trying to get a rough idea in my head.
    you use the jack to support the engine, but not raise it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@PureMS View Post
    Yes, the 8D0199379K mounts do work on all the B5 and B6 models. Consider instead our Corteco brand. They're a more durable product, and in our experience are lasting longer than the Chinese Febi counterpart.

    8D0199379K Corteco
    Does the mount matter if its for driver or passanger side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msharifi View Post
    Does the mount matter if its for driver or passanger side?
    same mount on both sides
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    I just replaced mine a few weeks ago with 034s. Used my shops lift with a 4 ft, 2by4 and floor jack and lifted from the pan. Great improvement. This thread makes me want to recenter mine though. Its like a message chair at idle. Thanks old guy! Ill give it a try next oil change!
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    I'm going to have to replace mine too. A few weeks ago when I changed my oil, took dremel to neuspeed snub and centered it, took out the boost resevoir, two new clutch switches (FML, another story) and put on my winter setup, I noticed purple fluid around the drivers side mount :( Was going to do this in the spring at same time of replacing all the control arms and tre's. I'm also going to replace the transmission mount with OEM RS4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey527 View Post
    I'm also going to replace the transmission mount with OEM RS4.
    just get the Stern trans mount and save $100+
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Devo View Post
    just get the Stern trans mount and save $100+
    purems.com lists one for RS4 (8D0399151T.OE) for $39
    mods - not enough for me and way too many in my wife's opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Devo View Post
    you use the jack to support the engine, but not raise it
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey527 View Post
    purems.com lists one for RS4 (8D0399151T.OE) for $39
    oh, B5 RS4. Do we even know that it will fit? The Apikol B5 trans mount is no good for a B6 5-sp, as I can attest from personal experience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Devo View Post
    oh, B5 RS4. Do we even know that it will fit? The Apikol B5 trans mount is no good for a B6 5-sp, as I can attest from personal experience
    It does as it lists the b6 02-05 as an option. There are three that look identical so use the model# I listed and you should be good to go. Less expensive than the apikol. Back to topic. It is amazing that the engine can be lifted that high without causing damage to any hoses...

    Gotta go flip the wings on the BBQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewey527 View Post
    It does as it lists the b6 02-05 as an option. There are three that look identical so use the model# I listed and you should be good to go. Less expensive than the apikol. Back to topic. It is amazing that the engine can be lifted that high without causing damage to any hoses...

    Gotta go flip the wings on the BBQ
    Yes, the B5 RS4 motor mounts should work no problem. A couple people on here can attest to that. B5 tranny mounts will NOT work.

    Also its important to specify chassis code with this stuff guys. Just saying rs4 is useless when someone goes out and buys engine mounts made for a honking V8 and of a slightly different design than the b5 rs/s/a4 and b6 a4.
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    Another +1 for a4darkness' write up that's what I used a few months ago. I didn't remove the headlight but I did remove the air box. I used the same mounts plus an APR snub mount and I have equal or worse vibrations even after repeated adjustment of the snub. I initially left the motor mount nuts lose, just hand tight and put everything back together to turn the car on. Let it get to operating temp, turned on AC as well a blipped the throttle a few times to settle the mounts in place then shut it off so I could remove things to tighten up the nuts.

    I'm thinking I will loosen the bottom nuts and run the engine and tighten it up with the engine on as well as realign the snub.....
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    Is there any difference between manual and automatic Febi mounts? I assume there isn't, but figured I'd double check before ordering them tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSilverF0x View Post
    Is there any difference between manual and automatic Febi mounts? I assume there isn't, but figured I'd double check before ordering them tonight.
    Same mounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msharifi View Post
    Does the mount matter if its for driver or passanger side?
    What is the difference between this mount and the one for B6 with 8E part number vs. 8D? I saw a new set on ebay for $54 it says german made just wondering.

    Thanks

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    I have changed engine and transmission mounts and still vibration under Drive and Reverse. on Reverse it has gotten better but over all still vibration what have i done wrong?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    I placed my ramps at the bottom of my slanted driveway so the car sat level even though the front end was on the ramps. With the car up to temperature and at idle I tightened up the lower motor mount studs. I slid the snub mount "cup" around to where it had no contact at all with the snub bushing and tightened it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post

    Centering the mounts: I tightened up the top motor mount studs and left the lower ones loose. I also left the snub mount loose. I placed my ramps at the bottom of my slanted driveway so the car sat level even though the front end was on the ramps. With the car up to temperature and at idle I tightened up the lower motor mount studs. I slid the snub mount "cup" around to where it had no contact at all with the snub bushing and tightened it up. Absolutely vibration free idle:-)
    Did you center your snub mount this way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by boy412 View Post
    Can I come over and use your driveway when I do mine?
    You beat me to it!

    Sure, come on over and we can center it up real good.
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    Maybe when it warms up a bit!

    I'm still undecided on which MM's I'm going to purchase. Leaning towards the Stern ones (soft). I like that they are servicable!
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    I get a slight vibration/shutter when accelerating. Would this be a motor mount issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdr. View Post
    I get a slight vibration/shutter when accelerating. Would this be a motor mount issue?
    Did you get this after changing your MMs? It should be unrelated to MMs.

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    An hour project turned into 3...seems that is the way most of my projects go. Followed Old Guy, A4darkness and numerous other informative threads. Had the mounts, tools and a Blue Moon waiting once I finished. Put car on my new rhino ramps, disconnected intake hose, took out air box, removed snub mount and was ready for action, riaght...damn jack didn't go high enough even with a piece of 4x4 (scary) and my neighbor wasn't home so his jack was unavailable until two hours later. One thing I would add to the instruction is to disconnect intercooler piping to turbo. I noticed when lifting my engine, things started to get stressed in that area. Got dremel out and started cutting bottom stud off when neighbor finally brought over better jack. Jacked the motor slightly higher and they came out easily. Put new ones in and put back everything else and started it up and to my surprise, very little vibration. Revved it up a few times, put a/c on high and seems like there won't be too much adjustments needed. Going to drive it this week and will adjust everything next wknd once my Stern tranny mount is delivered. I purchased the Corteco motor mounts from purems.com and the Stern from ringer-racing.com Both companies were awesome on customer service and communicated well with shipping timelines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 32_d3gr33s View Post
    how about diy and parts for the 3.0?
    hi, do you find some info or diy for the 3.0 replacemen motor mount?????? My 2003 a4 quattro 3.0 need all the motor mount service, all info i found its about 1.8t, thanks!

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    Just ordered some Febi mounts. Thanks, OG!

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    Is there a tranny mount for FWD applications?

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    are the febi mounts hydraulic mounts like the oem ones?
    i was leaning towards the 034 (street) density ones, since they are solid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott View Post
    Is there a tranny mount for FWD applications?
    FWD / manual use the same mount as a 5-sp quattro manual; CVT use the same as quattro / automatic

    Quote Originally Posted by ironduke View Post
    are the febi mounts hydraulic mounts like the oem ones?
    i was leaning towards the 034 (street) density ones, since they are solid.
    the B5 S4 Febi mounts are solid rubber, not fluid filled
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