AFE cold air intake claims 12hp and 20 ft. lbs torque?? true or false?

[miamium06]

Hey everyone noob here, before i get flamed i have done my homework and understand that the stock air intake is probably the best bet but while i was looking up parts for my new 1.8t i came across this intake that claims to have 63% better air flow then stock.. what do you guys think? here's the link
http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...8L&&brandID=53

[agart]

Build quality looks to be decent, I'd like to see some graphs proving their claims.

[CHiPZ]

I'd say "save your money & go for this" http://afepower.com/shop/details_new...118&brandID=59. Just got mine from ECS Tuning, and I'm happy with it. Other than the filter, my car is stock. The money I saved, i'll use it towards a Apikol intercooler.

[dewey527]

Save your money! I installed one before doing due diligence on AZ and regret the purchase. Royal pain in the ass to install and I believe part of a grommet that came apart caused my turbo failure...I have the pipe available for a nominal price if you want it. I ended up buying a Neuspeed that is 10x better!

[A4Maine-iac]

Looks like it replaces the stock tip with a heat insulated tube and is 2 3/4" to a reducer for the k03/k04...Hmm interesting. Looks solid though.


Edit : ^ well there yah go.

[dewey527]

Looks like it replaces the stock tip with a heat insulated tube and is 2 3/4" to a reducer for the k03/k04...Hmm interesting. Looks solid though.

I will say the stainless steel enclosure is built very well that replaces the OEM airbox. I am trying make it work with the Neuspeed tip and find a suitable filter though.

[EBG 18T]

I think the AFe dyno operator was smoking crack the day he tested the b6 1.8t intake.

[Charles.waite]

I think the AFe dyno operator was smoking crack the day he tested the b6 1.8t intake.

This. There is no way those numbers are true otherwise we would all be buying intakes. Its possible the flow numbers are true, theoretically, but a 1.8l 4 banger with a tiny k03 really doesn't need that much air so its really academic...

It would be different if you were running this:

[Howdy3]

I had the AFE intake for a while, and it isn't that great of one. If you do get it, its cheaper on ECS.

[boostedAvant]

I think the AFe dyno operator was smoking crack the day he tested the b6 1.8t intake.

Hahah

[Valve_Cover]

Yep these systems are junk from what I've seen of them. Buddy of mine bought one for his b6, and it was the worst pain in the ass to get onto the turbo. And the thing ripped apart after 4 months...

[audi_nightrider]

I'm about to sell mine, PM me if you're interested

[rollerton]

This air intake system produces 12 max horsepower, 20lbs. x ft. torque and out-flowed the factory intake by 63%.

Hilarious. Riiiiigggght.

[miamium06]

it seemed bogus when I read it, the numbers atleast. i think im just gonna do the stage 1 from apr and do a k&n drop in since its my daily for now. thanks for the feedback though!

[Pothole]

as far as I know carbonio intakes will net you the same as a stock air box but better sound, and looks, and everything else actually looses power over stock

or have things changed since I last looked at intakes??

[Charles.waite]

^^ Sounds about right. Don't forget that most of them are hot air intakes, thus the power loss, since they sit directly over the catalyst.

Careful with the K&N drop in. Make sure its not too oily or you'll be buying a new MAF very soon!

[m3ph]

http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B6_A4-...take/ES264115/

if i had the extra money i would go for this

http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B6_A4-...Intake/ES6346/

[9744RR]

Stay with your stock box and paper element if your are staying with a K03/4 or Eliminator series turbos. If you go BAT, then you can ditch your stock box.

[M-Hood]

it seemed bogus when I read it, the numbers atleast. i think im just gonna do the stage 1 from apr and do a k&n drop in since its my daily for now. thanks for the feedback though!

Not bogus at all, notice that they dont actually claim "PEAK" hp/tq gains. Just means it showed those gains somewhere during a pull thru the rpms. Their way of fooling the floolish to buy their product.

[AutoUnionLov3r]

Not bogus at all, notice that they dont actually claim "PEAK" hp/tq gains. Just means it showed those gains somewhere during a pull thru the rpms. Their way of fooling the floolish to buy their product.

^Little are we thinking that this was tested on a 2.0 build with a gt3071r setup

I'm running a K&N with the foam crap ripped out of my stock box, getting just about all the air possible from my ko3, doesn't sound so bad either once the foam sh!t is gone.

[CrazyCal]

doesn't sound so bad either once the foam sh!t is gone.

You know, I posted a thread about this very thing, and the overall response I got was: no difference in sound. I may have to try it and hear for myself. Problem is, it's not reversible, is it?

[bondar1989]

I believe part of a grommet that came apart caused my turbo failure...

That is messed up.

[diagnosticator]

Sounds like fantasy to me. Without parameters for how the claimed improvement in airflow was measured, there is no way to know. Values for parameters like intake depression, or pressure differential across the filter media, inches of water, or psi in comparison, for example. You know how much air pressure there is if you stick your hand out the window at 65 mph, right? With the stock air intake snorkel, there is that much pressure helping cool air flow into the stock airbox at the same road speed. With the hot air intakes, that aspect is defeated. Besides the fact that the stock air box has been proven on the dyno to flow enough air for 400+ Hp.

[texasboy21]

Switching to an aftermarket turbo inlet pipe and cone filter, from my stock TIP and K&N panel filter I showed a gain of 10-11g/s on the MAF; so there are gains to be had. 20 foot pounds is a stretch however.

[Charles.waite]

Switching to an aftermarket turbo inlet pipe and cone filter, from my stock TIP and K&N panel filter I showed a gain of 10-11g/s on the MAF; so there are gains to be had. 20 foot pounds is a stretch however.

WAIT, REAL ACTUAL NUMBERS???

Thats actually interesting though. I can definitely understand an increased airflow, b ut it would be the IATs that would worry me. Sucking air from the engine bay rather then the "ram" scoop in the grille would definitely raise IATs considerably unless you fashioned a good heatshield.

[J-jizzle]

I bought a afe intake. It was I huge waste for what it cost. They wouldnt refund me either. It had poor design and materials, I hope they have improved it over the years.

Basically a Piece of shit.

[diagnosticator]

Switching to an aftermarket turbo inlet pipe and cone filter, from my stock TIP and K&N panel filter I showed a gain of 10-11g/s on the MAF; so there are gains to be had. 20 foot pounds is a stretch however.

What where the IATs at the same mass air flow?

[EErie B6]

You know, I posted a thread about this very thing, and the overall response I got was: no difference in sound. I may have to try it and hear for myself. Problem is, it's not reversible, is it?

Its reversible. Not sure why you would want to though... But 4 small dots of silicone or superglue would secure it right back the way it was.

[texasboy21]

What where the IATs at the same mass air flow?

The test was done in 100+ ambient temps, so they were both pretty high. I have the stock heat shield rigged up and its really not that bad. I have the heat shield and a catch can that is heat treated, and the cone tucked down and away from the testpipe/turbo. Now that its somewhat cool I need to get a IAT log and compare that to the airbox.

[shoppingcart111]

The only benefit I can see is not having to buy a TIP and the gains over stock would come from the smooth TIP pipe that comes with the kit. Am I wrong?

[jalcom1]

...I believe part of a grommet that came apart caused my turbo failure.

I used the AFE intake for 4 years. My wife bought it for me as a Christmas present (before I joined Audizine and learned about the integrity of the stock airbox.) No noticeable increase in power but I did see marginal improvement in fuel economy, ~1mpg.

Unfortunately, this is also what killed my GTRS in November. One of the grommets split in half and FOD'd my turbo.

[B6A4Dave]

...I just bought an AFE Filter.....Very happy with the results.

Slightly improved throttle response, a little nicer noise from the DV in between shifts if you listen closely, improved MPG by what is probably a nominal difference but it has the illusion its better, Boost comes on quicker and smoother..

Very pleased, probably wont ever go to anything like pictured by the OP until big turbo set-up when I can truly run a cold air intake....or atleast until I can snag some pipe and couplers from my friends shop and build something useful.