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    DIY Ultimate Headlight Upgrade (PIC heavy)

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    Throughout the past month I have been working on some various headlight upgrades that I figured other people might be interested in replicating. A big thanks goes out to Diagnosticator for some help along the way giving me advise on how to refurbish my housings, and Skidmark for turning me into a lighting snob. A few of you might remember my DIY Passat projector fog light thread a while back. Pulling up behind Skidmark at night last winter quickly made me realize how pathetic my standard fogs, stock headlights, and old HID bulbs really were.

    Here is a short history of my lighting progression. I went from all completely stock with more than likely original from the factory bulbs to S4 Bixenon’s with Passat projector fogs. I would say that the projector fogs made my output roughly twice as bright and a bit wider. I felt nervous driving at night with my stock output since I felt people couldn’t see me and I kept getting cut off. After installing the projector fogs I didn’t get cut off a single time for at least 3 or 4 months. Fast forward to about a month ago I purchased new ballasts, new bulbs, and some new housings to attempt to do a TL, or FX retrofit. After about a month of measuring and fiddling around I decided aftermarket projectors wouldn’t fit the awkward shape of our housings without some major hacking up of the housings, and I wasn’t really willing to destroy them if I wasn’t positive they would fit. Instead I just ordered up some STI Replica lenses from The Retrofit Source in an attempt to get the most out of my stock projectors. With the new bulbs in my stock housings the light was about 50% brighter than with the old bulbs, so I felt like I could almost drive without the fog lights on. After I made the decision to stick with the stock projectors and install my STI lenses I would say the projectors are about 25-30% brighter and are about as bright as the stock projectors with new bulbs + HID projector fogs. It is now somewhat difficult to notice when my fogs are on, whereas before the clear lens upgrade it was about half as bright with the fogs off.

    These mods are relatively simple and should definitely increase your projector width as well as intensity, but depending on the condition of your projectors it might not be a night and day difference. I got so good at pulling the housings out of the car and pulling the projector from the housing that no joke I was able to fire up the stove for spaghetti and pull both housings out of my car and pull both projectors from the housings before my spaghetti was cooked. So I am confident anyone out there would be able to perform similar mods to their housings. These mods are for the Bixenon projectors which are a 3” lens, so this won’t translate directly to a single xenon projector since they have a 2.5” lens, but I am sure if you contacted The Retrofit Source they should be able to help you match a set of lenses that should work with the single xenon projectors. The same basic ideas and procedures should more than likely work with a little troubleshooting on the single xenons.

    Anyway, without further ado here is my best attempt at a DIY for all of the upgrades I have done to my housings and projectors.

    Tools required:

    Long handled T30 driver or screwdriver with skinny extensions
    Long handled T20 driver or screwdriver with skinny extensions
    Medium sized flathead
    Small flathead
    Flashlight
    Right angle pick
    Magnetic extendable grabber
    Beefy needle nose pliers
    RTV Silicone gasket maker



    3M wet/dry sandpaper (I used increments of 800, 1000, 1500, 2000)
    I chose 3M because the Harbor Freight stuff I bought would fall apart on me and not really work. And the car on the package is rocking my same winter wheels!



    Drill with 7/64th bit
    Some kind of orbital buffer and some Plastic X or other plastic or headlight polish



    4-40x3/4 Screws and nuts
    #6 Flat washers (not pictured)
    VHT high temp flat black engine paint (not pictured)



    A bunch of these. Different brands or sizes might work better for your application, I found the smaller ones tended to break a little easier, so I went with the big ones.



    Optional:
    Computer power supply to run your ballast and test your output.




    Headlight housing refurb:

    You will want to start by pulling out the headlights from the car with your T30 and your extended screwdriver. To disconnect the clip you will need either the right angle pick or a couple of flatheads. Disconnect both lights and pull off the rubber ring surrounding the face of the housing. Clean off the headlights and proceed to wet sand the housings starting with your 800 grit paper. Only do your strokes in one direction and make sure to continually wet the paper and clean the headlights off to check your progress. Assuming your housings are decently pitted you might need to sand for around 10 minutes to a half hour with your 800 grit to get all of the chips and pits out of your housing. If you see any areas that still look a little dark or shiny still make sure to hit those spots again since after you polish them in the end if you didn't sand the whole lens smooth it will leave scratches and won't look as nice.

    Once you have created a smooth surface free of pitting with the 800 step it up to the 1000 grit. This time sanding 90 degrees from your previous strokes. So if you were sanding the housing horizontally now start sanding vertically. This way you can tell when you have eliminated the scratches from the previous grit and can move up to the next piece. Continue this process until you hit 2000 grit. Once you are finished with 2000 break out the orbital polisher and your plastic polish. Depending on how nice of a polisher you have this could take anywhere from 10 minutes to a half hour to remove the swirls and end up with a clean looking headlight. Once that is done you are almost finished with your refurb.

    The next step will be to remove everything from the housing (bulbs, projectors, and motors). To remove the projectors you will need to disconnect the wire from the solenoid (green and yellow wire) and used your long handled T20 bit to unscrew the projector itself. Use your magnetic grabber to snag those screws out so they don't fall into the headlight housing as well. There are four screws shown here by the red arrows.





    To remove the motors you will need to remove the adjustment screw gears on the top and put the screw out of the top.



    Then you need to disconnect the motor wire and the motor from the face of the headlight mount. It is the little ball at the end of the motor. Once that is free the motors simply twist and pop right out.



    Next take some distilled water and pour it in through the back of the housing. I used about half a drinking glass each time. Hold the headlights up in the air so that the water can swish around on the front of the inside of the lenses and clean any water and dirt off of them. Depending on how much dirt, grime, or water spots you have you might need to rinse them 3 or so times. Just pour the new water out the back and dry the housings out with a heat gun or a hair dryer.

    I was tired of my bixenon housings leaking water all the time, so I decided to seal them up a bit better. I used the RTV silicone to make a bead around this oblong adjuster piece.



    That makes it completely water tight. NOTE: Only do this after you have cleaned the inside of your housings with water and are pleased with the results, otherwise you will have to rip up the silicone to get the adjuster screw out in order to pull the motor. The combination of the RTV silicone and some 3M stretchy tape over the top of the open gear assembly and screw will make these completely water tight. I haven't had a drop of condensation in the housings after doing so.

    Once all that is done you should be left with some brand new looking headlights and are ready to proceed with modding the projectors. Now is definitely a good time to pat yourself on the back and snag a brew.




    Projector Modifications:


    Now that your projectors are out of the housing and your housings are all perfect and cleaned up you can tackle modding the projector. The first thing you will need to do is pop the two halves of the projector apart. They use little C clips on the top and bottom that come off easily with a small flathead.



    Once you have popped all four off you can separate the projectors and remove your stock ridged lens to replace with the STI clear lens. Basically you need to release that tab by spinning it to drop the lens out and re-install the STI ones. Grab those needle nose plyers and pull that sucker apart.



    Once they are apart you will need to wrap the outer edge of the STI lens in some sort of tape or film to make their circumference slightly larger since they are just barely smaller than the stock lenses. If you don't they will not fit back into this housing properly. Since I was putting 3M headlight film on my freshly refurbed housings I cut really skinny pieces of this and rolled it onto the lens similar to a fruit by the foot. Roll them up following the red line in the pic. Just keep checking them to see when they fit snugly in the housing without wobbling around.



    Also, since these lenses are slightly thicker you will need to bend down the ears of the mounting ring to allow them to fit back into the lens holder like so.



    Re-install the lenses into the holders using the reverse process you used to remove them. Once that is complete go ahead and spray your cutoff completely black with your engine bay paint. You will need to open the flapper a bit to cover all the parts of the cutoff. Unfortunately the only pic I have of mine is when it is unpainted.



    Once those are done go ahead and put the projector back together and you are ready to start drilling some holes. Take your 7/64th bit and drill four holes all the way through the projector bowl, lens holder, and cutoff. It is easiest to drill them from the front side, but it doesn't really matter. Drill right in the middle of all of these dimples. Removing and replacing the U clips one by one so that the two halves stay aligned with each other properly. Also, this pic shows me drilling from the back, but you can do either.





    Once you have your holes drilled go ahead and take out your screws, nuts, and washers. Thread a screw through each of the holes and put two washers on each screw. You will want the washers to be on the same side as the lens holder, so the cutoff shield doesn't move at all.



    Go ahead and screw those on tight and your finished product should look like so. If there is any wobbling or the lens holder isn't sitting flat it will probably goof up your light pattern, so just make sure they are seated properly.



    Once that is all done you are ready to pop a bulb in and test those out with your computer power supply setup. I picked up a housing to ballast cable on ebay and wired it on to the computer power supply using a fan connection cable. WARNING. Make sure everything is wired properly and that you have wired the correct + and - to your ballast. I am not responsible if you blow anything up or shock yourself. Just take the appropriate precautions.





    Unfortunately my shot of the stock lens managed to disappear from my camera. I will try to get one soon. Clear lens without spacers



    Clear lens with spacers



    Once you are done with the projectors go ahead and mount them back into the housings and bolt everything back up. You will probably need to mess with the adjustments on your headlight since they will be a bit out of whack. Once you are done with that throw that tape I referenced earlier over the height adjustment screw and you should no longer get any condensation in your housings. You are no officially done! Grab another beer and enjoy some improved lighting!



    Beam from a single projector. Notice the cutoff is sharp from end to end.



    Hit me up if you see any glaring mistakes or omissions. Happy wrenching!
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    WOW... this is the most detailed thing i think i have ever read

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    that's a heck of a write up
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    Haha, thanks, hopefully detailed in a good way and not like a wow you really wrote that out kind of way. I guess I was a bit inspired by the depth that people like old guy, diagnosticator, and a4darkness go into on their responses and it really takes the guesswork out and makes everything super clear. Not having the cash or the driving style (pretty much strictly rush hour commuting) to allow performance mods I tend to focus on things that are useful, cheap and are decent bang for your buck.

    I guess I also forgot to write a little review section for how the performance was after. The distance light output is far better, and width is increased slightly as well. I was lighting up signs at least a mile down the road easily that I couldn't really see at all before. Those lenses just let a ton more light through. Also the bixenon high beam from them is quite a bit wider as well. Height wise about 25-30 feet from a wall you gain an extra 2-3 feet in height over the stock lenses, so these ones really do spread the light out better.

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    wow...i might do this soon.

    thanks Evo

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    awesome...

    1 question:

    what lens would i use for a single xenon lens replacement?

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    awesome!

    I remember when my friend was making projector headlights for MKIII VWs... in 1998. It's a lot of work to get the optics to work right.

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    this is so excellent
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    This sentence alone makes your writeup win: "I cut really skinny pieces of this and rolled it onto the lens similar to a fruit by the foot."

    And, Thomas, I'm offended that your awesome animated GIF is merely titled "clapping_guy." That's freakin' Charles Foster Kane.
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    wow very nice write up
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    Thats a great write up . Few questions on this, I've taken the projector housings out a few times before and I've never had to remove the motor. What was the purpose of this? Also, I have bixenon ecodes so is there any difference with the projector housing than what you worked on? Lastly in the pic that says "clear lens with spacers installed" are the spacers you're referring to the washers after the holes were drilled?
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    what site did you order the lenses from? I've found a couple, but was wondering if theres a place you ordered from due to cheaper cost
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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    what lens would i use for a single xenon lens replacement?
    My guess would be the FXR lenses, but I am not 100% sure on that. I would probably just shoot the guys at The Retrofit Source an email and they should be able to help you figure out what will work best. I emailed those guys a couple times and got responses back usually within about a half hour, so those guys are great!

    Quote Originally Posted by jursch2211 View Post
    Thats a great write up . Few questions on this, I've taken the projector housings out a few times before and I've never had to remove the motor. What was the purpose of this? Also, I have bixenon ecodes so is there any difference with the projector housing than what you worked on? Lastly in the pic that says "clear lens with spacers installed" are the spacers you're referring to the washers after the holes were drilled?
    The only reason you will need to remove the motor is if you are going to rinse the housing out with distilled water. I just didn't want to risk getting them wet and ruining them. Unfortunately since I have never had a chance to look at the ecodes I am not sure. I would assume they are the same if not very close. Ecodes probably wouldn't benefit from the projector modifications since they have a clear lens already, but doing the refurb process wouldn't hurt if you have pitted housings. You are correct the pic that says "with spacers installed" is referring to the #6 washers I put in there with the screws. So the first pic was with the lenses installed and mounted up with the regular C clips and the second was with the washers and screws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacob View Post
    what site did you order the lenses from? I've found a couple, but was wondering if theres a place you ordered from due to cheaper cost
    I went with The Retrofit Source since they have extremely good customer service and were super helpful with all of my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_ski View Post
    The only reason you will need to remove the motor is if you are going to rinse the housing out with distilled water. I just didn't want to risk getting them wet and ruining them. Unfortunately since I have never had a chance to look at the ecodes I am not sure. I would assume they are the same if not very close. Ecodes probably wouldn't benefit from the projector modifications since they have a clear lens already, but doing the refurb process wouldn't hurt if you have pitted housings. You are correct the pic that says "with spacers installed" is referring to the #6 washers I put in there with the screws. So the first pic was with the lenses installed and mounted up with the regular C clips and the second was with the washers and screws.
    Thanks! I've already cleaned up my headlights using a 3M sander/buffer/polisher tool. Clicky It's actually used to refresh headlight lenses from years of abuse from the sun. Quicker than doing it by hand so I can skip that process. The reason I asked on the spacers is because my ecodes look like the pic without the spacers installed. It doesn't have the really sharp cutoff line. Also what was the reason behind painting the cutoff black?
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    So the OEM projector lenses aren't clear? I never noticed that.

    Evo love the writeup. Written about the same way I would have aimed to, lots of detail! At the very least I'll be polishing up my housings, they look like they got sandblasted. Actually the whole front of my car looks like it got sandblasted. On sunny days its actually pretty hard to see out the windshield because of how prolific the pitting is. Its kind of ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jursch2211 View Post
    The reason I asked on the spacers is because my ecodes look like the pic without the spacers installed. It doesn't have the really sharp cutoff line. Also what was the reason behind painting the cutoff black?
    Hmm, that is odd. I thought they all hard a razor sharp cutoff, but I guess I was incorrect. I guess you could always try the mod with the spacers and just revert back to stock if it didn't fix it. Drilling through that spot on the projector won't ruin them at all and you can still put them back to stock by removing the screws and using the stock C Clips to hold them together instead. So I guess its worth a shot.

    As far as painting the cutoff through all of my research on HIDplanet I found a few people that said painting the cutoff black will also help sharpen your cutoff. I am not sure how noticeable it is since I didn't try a before and after shot, I did all of the mods at once. I just figured it couldn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_ski View Post
    Hmm, that is odd. I thought they all hard a razor sharp cutoff, but I guess I was incorrect. I guess you could always try the mod with the spacers and just revert back to stock if it didn't fix it. Drilling through that spot on the projector won't ruin them at all and you can still put them back to stock by removing the screws and using the stock C Clips to hold them together instead. So I guess its worth a shot.

    As far as painting the cutoff through all of my research on HIDplanet I found a few people that said painting the cutoff black will also help sharpen your cutoff. I am not sure how noticeable it is since I didn't try a before and after shot, I did all of the mods at once. I just figured it couldn't hurt.
    There is a more noticeable cut-off with e-codes over US DOT spec. Is it perfectly distinct? probably not. I remember there being a significant distinction when I went to halogen e-codes on my MKII VW over the POS halogen DOT spec lights that came with it. The e-code lights I bought were also crystal clear which helped tremendously.
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    Hmmmmm...... this may be a project I'll have to attempt. I've also been wanting to retrofit projectors in my fog lights as well.

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    These were my Helix ecodes with halogen bulbs as I was aiming them - I was still adjusting the pattern, but the lines seem more sharp than your before picture.

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    Yep, that is the next step. After pulling up behind skidmark with his micro de projectors I was sold. I am going to do his retrofit a little different and mount them inside the housing rather than them being exposed just so it looks slightly more stock. Should be a big upgrade to my passat projectors which are good but not perfect.

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    i'm not into how those look.

    I'd rather put a projector inside of the stock housing to keep things looking OEM
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    Is there a way to remove/reinstall the headlights without having to worry about the aim being off? I guess I could just make tape marks on a wall and make sure they are lined up as they were before when I reinstall them. But if I can even avoid that that would be sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MmmBoost View Post
    i'm not into how those look.

    I'd rather put a projector inside of the stock housing to keep things looking OEM
    Yeah, that was my plan I was going to mount those projectors inside the stock housing so they look oem from the outside but have the performance he has.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    Is there a way to remove/reinstall the headlights without having to worry about the aim being off? I guess I could just make tape marks on a wall and make sure they are lined up as they were before when I reinstall them. But if I can even avoid that that would be sweet.
    The main reason they will look off is since the cutoff will now be sharp they won't be perfectly aligned since they were aligned when they were fuzzy. One way to keep them as close as possible to the stock aiming would be to not pull the motor out. If you don't pull the motor/adjustment screw out it should be the same when you pop it back in. Even if they do get a little out of whack it is pretty simple to re aim them. I would just drive to the back of a big supermarket and shoot up against the loading bays and then pull along the side of a long wall to see if the beam is shooting flat or not. Its just a single screw on the top that adjusts the vertical alignment.

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    I've got a fence at the end of my driveway that should work. I'll have to make sure its flat first. Otherwise the school near me might work. Thanks man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_ski View Post
    My guess would be the FXR lenses, but I am not 100% sure on that. I would probably just shoot the guys at The Retrofit Source an email and they should be able to help you figure out what will work best. I emailed those guys a couple times and got responses back usually within about a half hour, so those guys are great!
    cool, emailed them.

    thanks again. Did you purchase JUST the lenses or the housings too? i cant tell if you just re-used the oem audi projector housing or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_ski View Post

    I was tired of my bixenon housings leaking water all the time, so I decided to seal them up a bit better. I used the RTV silicone to make a bead around this oblong adjuster piece.



    That makes it completely water tight. NOTE: Only do this after you have cleaned the inside of your housings with water and are pleased with the results, otherwise you will have to rip up the silicone to get the adjuster screw out in order to pull the motor. The combination of the RTV silicone and some 3M stretchy tape over the top of the open gear assembly and screw will make these completely water tight. I haven't had a drop of condensation in the housings after doing so.

    Once all that is done you should be left with some brand new looking headlights and are ready to proceed with modding the projectors. Now is definitely a good time to pat yourself on the back and snag a brew.
    Nice work, I am tired of condensation in the headlamp too, got a couple questions for you about your water sealing ...

    So you put down a bead of the RTV before you replaced that oval black cover and adjustment screw ? Did you put the tape over the oval cover and adjustment screw once they were replaced ?
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    Damn, so i just read that bixenon ecodes already have a clear lens'. In that case, would there be no benefit to doing the swap?

    And,

    If these STI-R lenses are better than the OEM audi lenses, where does the bixenon ecode lenses "sit" in the hierarchy of "which is better"
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    Quote Originally Posted by evo_ski View Post
    Yep, that is the next step. After pulling up behind skidmark with his micro de projectors I was sold. I am going to do his retrofit a little different and mount them inside the housing rather than them being exposed just so it looks slightly more stock. Should be a big upgrade to my passat projectors which are good but not perfect.
    i want to see this. i'm thinking of doing the exact same thing right now, and it looks like there's enough room behind each fog for the backs of the projectors to stick out. are you thinking of using the existing mounting holes for the reflectors or trying to get the projectors as far forward in each housing as possible?

    on another note, it sucks that the fx-r won't fit. it looked like a pain in the ass to install in the b5, and i had doubts with the b6. good thing i got the AMP kit, because that means i can put in mini h1's with adapter plates. they're almost the same as the 2.5" valeos in terms of lens size and distance from the mounting face to the lens holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    i cant tell if you just re-used the oem audi projector housing or not?
    Stock projector, the only part I swapped was the clear lens. So the projector bowl that the bulb plugs into stays the same, the cutoff shield is the same, and the lens holder is the same. I did purchase some projectors on ebay since a couple of the ones I had had some burn marks on the bowls. Now I have a set in my own that are good and a set that are going back in my other set of housings which should be up for sale soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by QuattroRocket View Post
    So you put down a bead of the RTV before you replaced that oval black cover and adjustment screw ? Did you put the tape over the oval cover and adjustment screw once they were replaced ?
    I will shoot a couple pics tonight of what I did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peacob View Post
    Damn, so i just read that bixenon ecodes already have a clear lens'. In that case, would there be no benefit to doing the swap?

    If these STI-R lenses are better than the OEM audi lenses, where does the bixenon ecode lenses "sit" in the hierarchy of "which is better"
    Yep, the ecodes have the clear lens already. I would almost be willing to bet that the ecode projectors are exactly the same as what we have, but just have that different clear lens. I wish I could meet up with someone with ecodes to compare them at night, but the problem would be making sure the bulbs were the same, etc. just to be sure the comparison was even. I think that these will put out almost identical output to the ecode's, but at a cheaper price than buying all new housings. I should see if someone in the Seattle area with ecodes wants to meet up and compare.

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    Very nice results! The focus and improved cut off sharpness makes this really worthwhile. One aspect to consider however, is the fix for the leaking of water into the housing at the adjuster gear drive on the top of the housing, has been determined to be caused by the O ring that is supposed to seal the vertical adjuster drive shaft, is to small. Installing a larger O ring on the vertical adjuster shaft fixes the problem of water leaking into the housing through the adjuster vertical drive shaft/housing hole. This has been the standard fix for this problem since I found the the source of the leak in 2004. Search for "O Ring Fix" for more info on how to install the O ring, and the larger size needed to stop the water leak.
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    Yep, that is a very good point that I should have mentioned. I tried to find those O rings at both Home Depot and Lowes next to my house and no one had the correct sizes. I even bought two big o-ring kits from Harbor Freight and none of the ones in the kits fit quite right. The ones I had were either too small and would still leak a little or were too big to spin the adjuster screw. Who knows I might have just not put enough grease in there and that would have been the ticket. That being said I would absolutely recommend the O ring fix over my solution if you can find that size, just because it will be easier to take things apart down the road if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diagnosticator View Post
    Very nice results! The focus and improved cut off sharpness makes this really worthwhile. One aspect to consider however, is the fix for the leaking of water into the housing at the adjuster gear drive on the top of the housing, has been determined to be caused by the O ring that is supposed to seal the vertical adjuster drive shaft, is to small. Installing a larger O ring on the vertical adjuster shaft fixes the problem of water leaking into the housing through the adjuster vertical drive shaft/housing hole. This has been the standard fix for this problem since I found the the source of the leak in 2004. Search for "O Ring Fix" for more info on how to install the O ring, and the larger size needed to stop the water leak.
    For my bi-xenons I simply took a strip of electrical tape that I trimmed to the right height and gave the adjuster shaft a few wraps and then re-installed the o-ring. This effectively increases the diameter of the adjuster shaft and creates more crush on the o-ring against the outer surface. It's worked for me for 2 years. My housings were foggy when I bought the car.....haven't seen a bit of moisture in them since doing my version of the fix.
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    nice work!!!!

    as a heads up on the micro de's, i also wanted to origionally keep the projectors behind the oem lenses, but decided to sacrifice the concept in search of a wider pattern. having the projectors back that far would cut off the width of the beam pattern on the inside edge of the housing.
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    Just out of curiosity evo, have you any pictures of the state that your headlight lenses where in before you sanded them?

    I have a few scratches on mine that will probably come out but there are also a few stress marks on them that I doubt will come out. Did you have any?
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    that is true. i think beam spread to the outside edges is more critical than beam spread on the inside edges for fogs, especially when the beams will overlap. however, i think the losses will be pretty minimal with the ribbed lenses in the hellas, especially if the projectors can be pushed as far forward in the fog housings as physically possible. it certainly won't be worse than the stock reflectors placed way in the backs of the housings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westie180 View Post
    that is true. i think beam spread to the outside edges is more critical than beam spread on the inside edges for fogs, especially when the beams will overlap. however, i think the losses will be pretty minimal with the ribbed lenses in the hellas, especially if the projectors can be pushed as far forward in the fog housings as physically possible. it certainly won't be worse than the stock reflectors placed way in the backs of the housings.
    Yup. i just wanted to get as much out of them as i could. beam spread on the inside edges pretty much turns into the outside edge on the opposite side once the light is projected out. as you said, either way, much better than factory reflectors.
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