2.0 stroker FSI or AEG crank?

**nein-reis** · 08-23-2011 08:23 PM

Yeah, we are having this discussion.
I'm 99.9% going with the FSI crank, but is anyone using the AEG? The price difference is nuts between the two (obviously would be). Ever heard of the AEG failing? Opinions?

**MmmBoost** · 08-23-2011 08:39 PM

Everyone says the FSI is overkill. And you have to have the gear for the oil pump changed.

I have never heard of an AEG failing in a stroker application..........ever.

**nein-reis** · 08-23-2011 08:45 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you have to have the oil gear on the AEG changed out also....

**Dan[FN]6262** · 08-23-2011 08:50 PM

I think the oil gear needs swapped, and I know you have to have the trigger gear swapped on the AEG. but I think the trigger gear on the FSI is the same as ours

**nein-reis** · 08-23-2011 08:55 PM

Really, trigger gear? I knew that about the TDI cranks but not the AEG... hmmm

**Dan[FN]6262** · 08-23-2011 09:00 PM

wait... maybe I'm wrong. there's too many cranks that work in this block LOLOLOLOL

**nein-reis** · 08-23-2011 09:09 PM

Well, I'm about to pull the trigger on my stroker, and need to figure out which crank to go with. I'm not sold on either one. FSI is obviously premium, but at 3.5X the cost. If I can get away with the AEG with no ill effects then why not?

**Dan[FN]6262** · 08-23-2011 09:18 PM

I'd get a AEG, nothing wrong with it

**nein-reis** · 08-23-2011 09:21 PM

I'm really changing my mind on this, might go AEG. Anyone been running one for a good amount of time that can chime in....?

**dougyfresh** · 08-24-2011 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by nein-reis

Really, trigger gear? I knew that about the TDI cranks but not the AEG... hmmm

negatory.

the oil gear and trigger wheel will work as-is.

I am using an AEG crank, Clint used one and David has one. David and I have quite a bit of mileage on ours. Mine was brand new when we built my motor. I bought it from Issam.

**AudiA4_20T** · 08-24-2011 06:30 AM

I got mine from an AEG motor with like 100k on it lol

**vinny.dtw** · 08-24-2011 06:33 AM

AEG crank as well...but obviously no where near the power levels you guys have...But probably one that drives the most in and out...

**AudiHere04** · 08-24-2011 06:59 AM

I got my FSI from IE

**RLB6** · 08-24-2011 07:24 AM

The real question is can you find an AEG. I wanted to use an AEG in my build but couldn't locate one so I opt to purchase a new FSI crank.

**nein-reis** · 08-24-2011 09:24 AM

IE can get me an AEG crank. Nice, well I don't see any reason not to go with the AEG and save a bunch of cash. sweet.

**FORCE_FED_DUB** · 08-24-2011 10:11 AM

AEG is heavier, but can hold more power than anyone is making on this forum

**Audi Skate Snow** · 08-24-2011 10:46 AM

exactly... nothing wrong with the AEG crank. I have never heard of anyone breaking or messing one up with too much power. cheaper also of course. I have an AEG crank in my new 2liter... which I have yet to install.

**RLB6** · 08-24-2011 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by nein-reis

IE can get me an AEG crank.

Good deal. i had to waste money and purchase a FSI crank

**Turbavanttro** · 08-24-2011 02:33 PM

FSi is only a waste of money if budget is the primary concern. If you want less rotating mass go FSi, if budget is more of a concern then go AEG. Either way you can make lots of power and wont have issues. I found my brand new fsi crank for $450.

Have the entire assembly balanced as well.

Originally Posted by MmmBoost

Everyone says the FSI is overkill.

Not true. Lots of people say 1,000 horsepower is overkill. Some would argue that too.

**nein-reis** · 08-24-2011 06:42 PM

Actually, finding a AEG is proving to be really difficult. IE does not have any right now. poop

**FORCE_FED_DUB** · 08-24-2011 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by nein-reis

Actually, finding a AEG is proving to be really difficult. IE does not have any right now. poop

You can buy a whole AEG motor for the price of an FSI crank. Then you have a 2.0L block and crank. Don't get an AEG block though, they don't have oil squirters. Find a later DBW 2.0L 8V mk4 engine (AVH, AZG, BGD) and IIRC they all have oil squirters. You will have to machine the thermostat interface on any block other than an AMB though.

**Turbavanttro** · 08-24-2011 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_DUB

You can buy a whole AEG motor for the price of an FSI crank.

true, but how do you inspect the journals? would suck to buy a whole motor just for the crank and find the journals are scored.

i looked for an aeg crank and also found them about as difficult to find as an fsi, maybe harder unless you buy a whole motor.

as i said before, 450 is not bad for a brand new fsi crank. look around you'll probably find one as well. unless a few hundred is going to break the budget. then go AEG

**nein-reis** · 08-24-2011 10:16 PM

450.00 for a FSI crank? That is a deal I have yet to see, they are for sale all over... for around 800.00

**dougyfresh** · 08-25-2011 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by nein-reis

450.00 for a FSI crank? That is a deal I have yet to see, they are for sale all over... for around 800.00

I think that is what I paid for my AEG crank. But it was brand spanking new. Talk to Issam@INA.

**Seerlah** · 08-25-2011 05:44 AM

Difference between the 2 cranks has to do with material. But I highly doubt anyone on this forum board will be pushing enough power to break an AEG crank. And if they have power goals they think would exceed the threshold of the AEG crank, I highly doubt that would even be an option on thier parts list.

How much work will be done to the TDI crank to work on the 06A block (same 83mm bore and 144x20 rods for 2067cc of displacement)? There is one on ebay right now for $275 shipped.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-Je...item20bc130e1e

**Turbavanttro** · 08-25-2011 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by nein-reis

450.00 for a FSI crank? That is a deal I have yet to see, they are for sale all over... for around 800.00

I paid $450. And I also passed up on a used one for $550. If you look you will find.

**Turbavanttro** · 08-25-2011 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Seerlah

Difference between the 2 cranks has to do with material.

the real difference is in how the crank is made, and the resulting weight and strength of the crank, and therefore rotating mass of the motor assembly.

neither crank is going to break.

**nein-reis** · 08-26-2011 12:03 AM

I have a couple leads on AEG cranks, yay.

**vtraudt** · 02-14-2015 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by dougyfresh

negatory.

the oil gear and trigger wheel will work as-is.

I am using an AEG crank

Just to confirm: when using AEB crank in AMB engine, everything works as is, i.e. swap parts over from AMB crank?

**vtraudt** · 02-14-2015 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by vtraudt

Just to confirm: when using AEB crank in AMB engine, everything works as is, i.e. swap parts over from AMB crank?

Want to put the parts list together for AMB stroker:

When buying a used AEG: have it polished?

What else is needed? 144x20 rods, 83mm pistons/rings. What rod and crank bearings to use? What thrust washers? Oil pump/pickup tube? Front and rear seal?

**vtraudt** · 02-14-2015 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by vtraudt

Want to put the parts list together for AMB stroker:

When buying a used AEG: have it polished?

What else is needed? 144x20 rods, 83mm pistons/rings. What rod and crank bearings to use? What thrust washers? Oil pump/pickup tube? Front and rear seal?

Ditto: if going FSI crank.

**Seerlah** · 02-14-2015 07:29 AM

Same as awm block. I picked up an fsi crank for $150 shipped. I would also suspect the aeb and amb cranks to be the same. Look up part numbers. I also suggest a polish.