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    Established Member Two Rings socalsilvers4's Avatar
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    that rear "fog" light...

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    so the asshole cops on base wrote me a FRIGGIN TICKET for a bad taillight. what he was referring to was obviously the bright light in the rear that you can turn on and off. the reason why i drive with it on is because i have been rear ended before so its kinda like a peace of mind thing. so anyways, i clearly explained to him respectfully on what the purpose and i even showed him that my taillights are functional but he was like "why doesnt the other side light up?" i said because there isnt a friggin hole there for it!! but anyways, he said i can get the ticket thrown out in court if i show him a reference proving my point. which i CLEARLY did when he had me on the side of the road(doucher) but he was a jackass and wanted to cite me for it.

    anywhere i should start looking for it? idk where my owners manual is.

    please no smart ass remarks either please gents. TIA
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    just tell them that Audi made one so that people focus on it and think oh man theres a car up there. tell the judge to get on his smartphone and search german cars single rear fog and a million threads will come up "Why do all german cars have one single rear fog?"

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    ya well i would but he is going to want me to bring proof. i would love to be a dick to him but you gotta suck up a little bit sometimes lol
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automot...Rear_fog_lamps

    In Europe and other countries adhering to ECE Regulation 48, vehicles must be equipped with one or two bright red "rear fog lamps" (or "fog taillamps"), which serve as high-intensity rear position lamps to be energised by the driver in conditions of poor visibility to enhance vehicle conspicuity from the rear. The allowable range of intensity for a rear fog lamp is 150 to 300 candelas,[15] which is within the range of a U.S. stop lamp.[5] For this reason, some European vehicles imported to the United States have their rear fog lamps wired as stop lamps, since their European-specification stop lamps may not be sufficiently intense to comply with U.S. regulations, and in North America rear fog lamps are not required equipment. However, they are permitted, and are found almost exclusively on European-brand vehicles in North America — Audi, Jaguar, Mercedes, MINI, Land Rover, Porsche, Saab and Volvo provide functional rear fog lights on their North American models. The final generation Oldsmobile Aurora also had dual rear fog lights installed in the rear bumper as standard equipment.

    Most jurisdictions permit rear fog lamps to be installed either singly or in pairs. If a single rear fog is fitted, most jurisdictions require it to be located at or to the driver's side of the vehicle's centreline — whichever side is the prevailing driver's side in the country in which the vehicle is registered.[15] This is to maximise the sight line of following drivers to the rear fog lamp. In many cases, a single reversing lamp is mounted on the passenger side of the vehicle, positionally symmetrical with the rear fog. If two rear fog lamps are fitted, they must be symmetrical with respect to the vehicle's centreline.[15] Proponents of twin rear fog lamps say two lamps provide vehicle distance information not available from a single lamp. Proponents of the single rear fog lamp say dual rear fog lamps closely mimic the appearance of illuminated stop lamps (which are mandatorily installed in pairs), reducing the conspicuity of the stop lamps' message when the rear fogs are activated. To provide some safeguard against rear fog lamps being confused with stop lamps, ECE R48 requires a separation of at least 10 cm between the closest illuminated edges of any stop lamp and any rear fog lamp.[15]
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    Look in owners manual... that should be offical enough..
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    Just show up with your owners manual and point to the illustration that says "rear fog light" and your problem will go away.

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    great link man. i appreciate the help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splatt View Post
    Just show up with your owners manual and point to the illustration that says "rear fog light" and your problem will go away.
    ya your right but im pretty sure i dont have it. fail
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    If you don't have the owner's manual, get it and present it as evidence. I have been stopped two times for this and turned it off and on for them both times and they still wrote the ticket. They are just rolling the dice that you will pay up without fighting it because it will cost you your time and time is money if you have to take off of work. The general population is just too ignorant of the fact that this is how it is and is legal although odd in appearance to the previously mentioned ignorant. And in some states, they can still get you for operating it in conditions that don't call for it so..
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalsilvers4 View Post
    so the asshole cops on base wrote me a FRIGGIN TICKET for a bad taillight. what he was referring to was obviously the bright light in the rear that you can turn on and off. the reason why i drive with it on is because i have been rear ended before so its kinda like a peace of mind thing. so anyways, i clearly explained to him respectfully on what the purpose and i even showed him that my taillights are functional but he was like "why doesnt the other side light up?" i said because there isnt a friggin hole there for it!! but anyways, he said i can get the ticket thrown out in court if i show him a reference proving my point. which i CLEARLY did when he had me on the side of the road(doucher) but he was a jackass and wanted to cite me for it.

    anywhere i should start looking for it? idk where my owners manual is.

    please no smart ass remarks either please gents. TIA
    I'm so happy you got a ticket for that! Do you know how annoying it is to have a blinding/glaring light in your face when following some asshat that drives with his rear fog(s) on?

    I hope the ticket sticks.

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    you deserve it.

    Also it probably would contribute to you being hit, instead of prevent it, as there is less of a delta when the brake lights come on
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    Just was stopped on my 1/4 mile street for expired inspection, didn't even hit the road. I cut away the area in the light without the fog so now it works functionally on both sides.
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    TURN IT OFF STOP BEING A TOOL ITS FUCKING ANNOYING. ITS THERE FOR FUCKING FOG AND SNOW AND RAIN.. NOT SO YOU CAN LOOK LIKE YOUR BRAKING AND BLIND EVERYONE BEHIND YOU.
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    You should be okay with the printed proof above.

    Maybe just save the light for rain and fog?

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    Most of the people think one of your tail light is out. I did the rear fog light mod and use it as fake brake check lights lol, works every time for those damn tailgaters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRA4 View Post
    Most of the people think one of your tail light is out. I did the rear fog light mod and use it as fake brake check lights lol, works every time for those damn tailgaters.
    ^this

    piss poor weather and extreme tailgaters...thats the only time it should come on

    the tickets for it still sucks tho
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    I chuckle when I see Audis rolling with the rear fog light on unnecessarily. It's stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRA4 View Post
    Most of the people think one of your tail light is out. I did the rear fog light mod and use it as fake brake check lights lol, works every time for those damn tailgaters.
    Great idea.
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    You can pull your tail lights out and bring them in to court. One side has a hole that will allow a bulb to fit through, the other side has a much smaller hole that a bulb will not fit in.

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    Lolz I bet OP didn't post in here thinking he would get flamed for even having it on. Finger brake check ftw. That's about all it's good for. And I guess when it's foggy...?
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    Fog light mod FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoPotato View Post
    Fog light mod FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedB5S4 View Post
    Lolz I bet OP didn't post in here thinking he would get flamed for even having it on. Finger brake check ftw. That's about all it's good for. And I guess when it's foggy...?
    ya def wasnt expecting it. damn such negative comments but no the ticket isnt going to stick. didnt know everybody felt that way about that light. jeez calm down peeps
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    Best thing for you to do is take a few photos of how the lights work (a to b to a comparison...) as well as that article. You might get lucky, hope that the judge owns an Audi, or european car.. You might still get fucked in court though cause you were using it without the proper conditions...

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    ya im borrowing a friends owners manual and im bringing that to court as well as pictures of the brake lights on with the fog and without to show the judge that im right. i should be good. the whole situation is just retarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalsilvers4 View Post
    the whole situation is just retarded
    You're right... driving with the rear fog(s) on is retarded. Guess a driver mod is needed as well.

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    I'm tempted to stick a HID in there for those instances where you get the hopped up SUV's or Jeeps with HID's and they don't bother to re-level their lights. It's annoying when you can get a ticket for rear fogs (which are OEM) but not for swapping out HID's and burning the retina's off everyone else.

    Maybe I should make some sort of oil squirter to just mist it on to their headlights...
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    Leave it off now.

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    remove the bulb and for get about it. Gl in court
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    CVC 24602. (a) A vehicle may be equipped with not more than two red fog taillamps mounted on the rear which may be lighted, in addition to the required taillamps, only when atmospheric conditions, such as fog, rain, snow, smoke, or dust, reduce the daytime or nighttime visibility of other vehicles to less than 500 feet
    Driving behind a fog light in clear weather is fucking annoying.
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