Compiled Drive Select VAG-COM codes

[NPuter]

I added the lighting correction code to the original post...

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[cory_can]

I added the lighting correction code to the original post...

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Yup, that's where I found it after my buttons looked strange after install....thanks for the addition.

[Alister]

Thanks for confirming that cory_can - sounds like I need to reroute my ADS switch LIN bus connection to the J519 module and all will be resolved.

[strumfyspm]

Help me if i understood correct:

I can chise from MMI how i will drive?
This is for M6 and MMI basic plus?

[NPuter]

Help me if i understood correct:

I can chise from MMI how i will drive?
This is for M6 and MMI basic plus?

You can modify drive select individual in the MMI ONLY if you have 3G MMI.

[audi_s5]

2G MMI High can also accept ADS individual coding via mmi

[strumfyspm]

so with mmi basic plus, the one monochrome....i can not use it?????

[llBen]

You can, but you need to set your Drive Select mode using VCDS (ie change channels 63-66 to "3" for Dynamic mode as default).

The only way to change it to Comfort or Auto will be plugging back in!



It should be noted that the MY2012 Facelift models are different - the Comfort/Auto/Dynamic options (as well as 'Efficiency', 'Offroad' and 'Race') are available in the new menu which appears immediately when you press the car button. Adaptation channels 64 and 66 have different functions (64 unknown, 66 changes the Drive Select menu appearance, literally hundreds of options changing the value from 0 to 256). You can still change the default start-up property in channels 63, 65, and I believe 67 and 68 (these are set to 2 now by default, so it would make sense if these are the displaced channels).

I don't know if it's because I'm still adjusting coming from a TDI to a TFSI, because it's a new engine or just because I'm a noob, but I can't feel as much of a difference with my 2012 A5 and this mod as I did with my 2011. Additionally, coming from the heavy 2.0TDI steering I'm finding it hard to notice a difference in stiffness when in Dynamic mode. The MY2012 A5s also have a new electronically assisted steering as standard across all models - you either have electronically assisted or the servotronic (dynamic) option. Other MY2012 owners profess that this works but I've yet to feel it for myself.

Also I should note that the system rejects Race and Offroad modes, before anyone gets excited :P After a second or so it just reverts to the previous option. All the others "lock in", and are confirmed by the Instrument cluster. Efficiency mode makes the car handle like my TDI when it was stock :D But it is nice to see the MPG rise a little.

[NPuter]

2G MMI High can also accept ADS individual coding via mmi

Forgot about that. You are correct, 2G MMI definitely has ADS individual.

so with mmi basic plus, the one monochrome....i can not use it?????

No 100% sure, but I do not think so. (I am referring to modifying the ADS individual options in the MMI) You can still enable ADS, but you only have the options of Comfort, Auto, or Dynamic and those can only be changed though VAG-Com..

[strumfyspm]

Thanks,


But what is the diffrence between: comfort, auto and dynamic?:D

[Alister]

Ran the LIN bus connection of the ADS switch to the J519 module tonight and the switch lit up and is now functional.

Followed the install up with the recoding for the brightness and now all is good.

FWIW did some reading up and the ADS switch has to be a slave module of the J519 master device, so no good connecting to the LIN bus at the climate control as I had previously done.

[Ice_2k]

Hi guys,

I just did the retrofit on my '08 B8 today and ran into a few issues:
1. ADS switch lights up strange. I found a coding on the 1st page of this thread that should fix this, will try it tomorrow.
2. Could not get steering to work. Apparently i do NOT have dynamic active steering (enabling it would cause the error below), just plain servotronic. So, my question is: can I get it to stiffen with servotronic?

Thanks a lot.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4197809/ads_error.jpg

[Eddie-B8]

Hi guys,

easier to see the pic

[Ice_2k]

I got it to work :D

My car only has servotronic (no dynamic steering), and the value of byte 8 on the [09 - Cent Elect.] module is 21, which comes down to 00010101. So what got me the engine and steering functions working (both make a HUGE difference) are bits 0, 2 and 4.

[Ice_2k]

One more question. The default doesn't seem to work very good... the guy that did this mod for me said that he set it to INDIVIDUAL on all 4 channels (63-66). However, it's sometimes starting on individual and sometimes on the last mode I used before turning off the engine. I don't know if this makes sense but from what I noticed, if the car stays off for a relativelly short period of time (1-2 hours), it starts on INDIVIDUAL. If it stays off for a longer period of time (one night), it starts on the last used mode. Any ideas?

[Ice_2k]

Correction: sometimes it starts on comfort, sometimes on individual. If it's been off for just a little time, it starts on individual. Otherwise, on comfort. What gives?

[zoomx2ian]

I have follow every steps to set the steering firmer. But I got error saying 63,64,65,66 not available even 07 coding accepted. Please help! I drive 2012 A4 Preium with 8 speeds auto.

[rlarsen]

You can, but you need to set your Drive Select mode using VCDS (ie change channels 63-66 to "3" for Dynamic mode as default).

The only way to change it to Comfort or Auto will be plugging back in!



It should be noted that the MY2012 Facelift models are different - the Comfort/Auto/Dynamic options (as well as 'Efficiency', 'Offroad' and 'Race') are available in the new menu which appears immediately when you press the car button. Adaptation channels 64 and 66 have different functions (64 unknown, 66 changes the Drive Select menu appearance, literally hundreds of options changing the value from 0 to 256). You can still change the default start-up property in channels 63, 65, and I believe 67 and 68 (these are set to 2 now by default, so it would make sense if these are the displaced channels).

I don't know if it's because I'm still adjusting coming from a TDI to a TFSI, because it's a new engine or just because I'm a noob, but I can't feel as much of a difference with my 2012 A5 and this mod as I did with my 2011. Additionally, coming from the heavy 2.0TDI steering I'm finding it hard to notice a difference in stiffness when in Dynamic mode. The MY2012 A5s also have a new electronically assisted steering as standard across all models - you either have electronically assisted or the servotronic (dynamic) option. Other MY2012 owners profess that this works but I've yet to feel it for myself.

Also I should note that the system rejects Race and Offroad modes, before anyone gets excited :P After a second or so it just reverts to the previous option. All the others "lock in", and are confirmed by the Instrument cluster. Efficiency mode makes the car handle like my TDI when it was stock :D But it is nice to see the MPG rise a little.

The value in Channel 66 (max value = 255):

+1 = Individual
+2 = Comfort + Individual
+4 = Auto + Individual
+8 = Dynamic + Individual
+16 = Offroad + Individual
+32 = Efficiency + Individual
+64 = Race + Individual
+128 = ??

Add the above values together and put the sum in Channel 66 - BUT you'll only get a max of 6 modes shown

[labombadiesel]

The value in Channel 66 (max value = 255):

+1 = Individual
+2 = Comfort + Individual
+4 = Auto + Individual
+8 = Dynamic + Individual
+16 = Offroad + Individual
+32 = Efficiency + Individual
+64 = Race + Individual
+128 = ??

Add the above values together and put the sum in Channel 66 - BUT you'll only get a max of 6 modes shown

rlarsen, only one question:

Is it possible to enable the efficiency, offroad or Race modes in the MMI 2G ADS?

I have the ADS activated since a lot of time (thanks to C99 3 years ago as well as the electric seat memory in the key without having seats with memory in my A5 3.0 TDI), and after driving once a new A4 with the efficiency mode, I have wonder if it was possible to enable as well the efficiency mode for city driving in my A5.

Does anybody know if it's possible to enable it in the 2G MMI cars?

And I'm asking it because some time ago I was told that I wouldn't be able to activate the oil temperature on the FIS in my 2007 A5 having oil stick, but some months ago somebody discovered that updating the FIS in the dealer with an italian Audi recall for another problem activated it, so I asked to do it to my dealer and now I have that on my FIS.

So, maybe doing something similar to my A5, an Audi update could let me have those new modes in my 2007 2G MMI car...

[rlarsen]

rlarsen, only one question:

Is it possible to enable the efficiency, offroad or Race modes in the MMI 2G ADS?

I have the ADS activated since a lot of time (thanks to C99 3 years ago as well as the electric seat memory in the key without having seats with memory in my A5 3.0 TDI), and after driving once a new A4 with the efficiency mode, I have wonder if it was possible to enable as well the efficiency mode for city driving in my A5.

Does anybody know if it's possible to enable it in the 2G MMI cars?

And I'm asking it because some time ago I was told that I wouldn't be able to activate the oil temperature on the FIS in my 2007 A5 having oil stick, but some months ago somebody discovered that updating the FIS in the dealer with an italian Audi recall for another problem activated it, so I asked to do it to my dealer and now I have that on my FIS.

So, maybe doing something similar to my A5, an Audi update could let me have those new modes in my 2007 2G MMI car...

The SVM-Code (online access to Audi in Germany) that the Audi dealer need to use is (in RoW models only ??): B817A003 and it'll change the SW version to 253 on the instrument cluster.

After the update you'll be able to enable efficiency DIS (but it will not be complete without an update of the CAN Gateway too - like this one: http://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/produc...i-VW?info=1409), and the oil temp with the Lap Timer (AFAIK it should work on you model too, because it is not the oil level sensor that is the oil temp sensor - so I think it would work, but I can't be 110% sure)

I don't think it would be possible to enable offroad and/or Race (included in the new Facelift ADS menu) in ADS on a 2G MMI - maybe with 3G MMI on a pre-Facelift, but I don't know the SVM code for that - if it can be enable then only on a 3G MMI (A5 MY2009+ (from month 11), and A4 MY2010+ in EU).

[labombadiesel]

Exactly, that's what I did in my A5 except for the CAN Gateway update that I forgot asking to my Audi dealer.
So now I can see everything on the FIS, including the oil temperature in the lap timer screen and the Efficiency programme except for a single screen on it related to the Air con fuel consumption...

It would be good to know if at least we can activate as well the efficiency mode into the ADS menu adding it to the comfort, dynamic and Auto modes we have right now, but I believe according to your post that with the 2G MMI it's not possible.

[rlarsen]

Exactly, that's what I did in my A5 except for the CAN Gateway upfate That I forgot asking to my Audi dealer.
So now I can see everything on the FIS, including the Efficiency programme except for a single screen related to the Air con fuel consumption...

It would be good to know if at least we can activate the efficiency programme into the ADS menu adding it to the comfort, dynamic and Auto modes we have right now, but I believe according to your post that with the 2G MMI it's not possible.

The efficiency programme in ADS is a new feature on the FaceLift models - if it can be enabled on pre-facelift models, then only on 3G MMI's, when they get a SW update - but so fare no SVM Code is known.

[labombadiesel]

Ok then, rlarsen, I understand it...

Thanks a lot anyway.
If I discover something more I will post it here...

[Franky_d]

The value in Channel 66 (max value = 255):

+1 = Individual
+2 = Comfort + Individual
+4 = Auto + Individual
+8 = Dynamic + Individual
+16 = Offroad + Individual
+32 = Efficiency + Individual
+64 = Race + Individual
+128 = ??

Add the above values together and put the sum in Channel 66 - BUT you'll only get a max of 6 modes shown

Hello rlarsen,

Thank you for your great input here!

I pickup up my face-lifted Q5 3.0 tdi NAVI plus few weeks ago. I love the car, everything is great, except the steering on the highway (120-140 km/h). It a bit loose and with side winds the car is wondering in the lane whole time. I released the tire pressure a bit below the recommended values (recommended for 19" at 2.3-2.4 depending on the load) down to 2.2 on warm, but this probably will cause faster tire wear in a long run.

Due to this problem I decided to activated ADS to see it would make the steering tighter/stiffer. I did the following:

Hidden menu activation and carisma activation in two places of the hidden menu

[09 - Cent Elect.] - MMI and non-MMI
Byte 7 -> Bit 5 change 0 to 1
Byte 8 Bit 1 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering (Definitely stiffens steering on my car - a lot)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine (Improved throttle response - Not completely sure if I can feel a significant change)
Byte 17 -> Bit 7 change 0 to 1 (enable MMI display)

Adaptation of channel 66: change of 15 to 47.

All went fine, different modes get activated on the navi screen and driver's little screen, I can feel slight changes in the throttle response, but I still can not feel any difference in steering. I tried to experiment with bits 2 and 4 using them separately or together - no change.

Would you recommend anything else?
Thank you,

Franky

[rlarsen]

Hello rlarsen,

Thank you for your great input here!

I pickup up my face-lifted Q5 3.0 tdi NAVI plus few weeks ago. I love the car, everything is great, except the steering on the highway (120-140 km/h). It a bit loose and with side winds the car is wondering in the lane whole time. I released the tire pressure a bit below the recommended values (recommended for 19" at 2.3-2.4 depending on the load) down to 2.2 on warm, but this probably will cause faster tire wear in a long run.

Due to this problem I decided to activated ADS to see it would make the steering tighter/stiffer. I did the following:

Hidden menu activation and carisma activation in two places of the hidden menu

[09 - Cent Elect.] - MMI and non-MMI
Byte 7 -> Bit 5 change 0 to 1
Byte 8 Bit 1 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering (Definitely stiffens steering on my car - a lot)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine (Improved throttle response - Not completely sure if I can feel a significant change)
Byte 17 -> Bit 7 change 0 to 1 (enable MMI display)

Adaptation of channel 66: change of 15 to 47.

All went fine, different modes get activated on the navi screen and driver's little screen, I can feel slight changes in the throttle response, but I still can not feel any difference in steering. I tried to experiment with bits 2 and 4 using them separately or together - no change.

Would you recommend anything else?
Thank you,

Franky

And you do have Servotronic (PR-code: 1N3) ??

I think you should have the Servotronic as standard because you have a 3.0 TDI. The Servotronic alone should give you some stiffness when you're driving on the motorway - if the ADS coding is working you should be able to feel a difference in low speed too - e.g. when you drive about 20-30 km/h and then try to steer with the MMI menu item for ADS set to dynamic or comfort.

I think it should be bit 4 you need to set, because I have bit 1 set, and I have ADS factory installed, where I have "Dynamic Steering"

You can here see a small comparison of how the two steering systems should act:

[Franky_d]

And you do have Servotronic (PR-code: 1N3) ??

I think you should have the Servotronic as standard because you have a 3.0 TDI. The Servotronic alone should give you some stiffness when you're driving on the motorway - if the ADS coding is working you should be able to feel a difference in low speed too - e.g. when you drive about 20-30 km/h and then try to steer with the MMI menu item for ADS set to dynamic or comfort.

You message made me think last night and carefully look again on the bits I was experimenting with....

Today I tried with only bits 2 and 4 in byte 8 and finally can feel the difference. It is not huge, but noticeable! My original reading for byte 8 was 00000000, the new one is 00010100.

By the way I do not have the option 1N3. Possible with switch to the electric assisted steering there is no servotronic anymore?

Have you got any info on disabling the Start-Stop system?

Thank you for you support and inspiration! :)

[rlarsen]

You message made me think last night and carefully look again on the bits I was experimenting with....

Today I tried with only bits 2 and 4 in byte 8 and finally can feel the difference. It is not huge, but noticeable! My original reading for byte 8 was 00000000, the new one is 00010100.

By the way I do not have the option 1N3. Possible with switch to the electric assisted steering there is no servotronic anymore?

Have you got any info on disabling the Start-Stop system?

Thank you for you support and inspiration! :)

Maybe the Servertronic has a new PR code on the new models - maybe it is only a different one on the Q5 ?? The PR code 1N3 is for A4/A5

I have no experence with disabling the Start/Stop system, but you can try the disable option on the engine unit (see screen shot here): http://www.motor-talk.de/forum/codie...6#post25216005

[rlarsen]

I've just checked on ETKA, and it seems to be used new steerings parts on the Facelift models (MY2013+) both A4/A5 and Q5

MY2008 => MY2012
PR-Code: 1N1 = Power steering
PR-Code: 1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
PR-Code: 1N7 = Dynamic steering

MY2013 =>
PR-Code: QZ7 = Power steering
PR-Code: 1N8 = Power steering (dynamic steering)

And it doesn't seems to be a Servotronic option anymore - maybe PR-Code 1N8 is used for both Servotronic and Dynamic steering ??.

[cory_can]

The B8.5's have electric steering, the B8's are hydraulic assist....completely different.

[rlarsen]

The B8.5's have electric steering, the B8's are hydraulic assist....completely different.

The steering options PR-code used on the B8 A4/A5 Facelift (and pre-facelift) are the same as used on the Q5.

I haven't mentioned anything about the technology behind the different steering options - or what do you mean ??

[Franky_d]

I've just checked on ETKA, and it seems to be used new steerings parts on the Facelift models (MY2013+) both A4/A5 and Q5

MY2008 => MY2012
PR-Code: 1N1 = Power steering
PR-Code: 1N3 = Speed-related variable steering assist (Servotronic)
PR-Code: 1N7 = Dynamic steering

MY2013 =>
PR-Code: QZ7 = Power steering
PR-Code: 1N8 = Power steering (dynamic steering)

And it doesn't seems to be a Servotronic option anymore - maybe PR-Code 1N8 is used for both Servotronic and Dynamic steering ??.

I've got QZ7.
The other option with Dynamic steering was not appealing to me - extra price for something that might add even more artificial feeling to the steering: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umsULUG2P-M

With start-stop I have not found any 100% tested solutions and will not experiment with my car: http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post78166014

I have another idea, need to check feasibility with a friend - add a litli chip into the Start-stop button, which will "switch" it into disable position once ignition is on. And if possible allowing to switch it back by let's say pressing it twice quickly.... How about that? ;)

[NPuter]

All B8s have servotronic, correct? It is dynamic steering that comes additional with ADS. I know for sure my steering becomes stiffer when I drive past 10mph - you can definitely feel it...

[Franky_d]

You can, but you need to set your Drive Select mode using VCDS (ie change channels 63-66 to "3" for Dynamic mode as default).

Also I should note that the system rejects Race and Offroad modes, before anyone gets excited :P After a second or so it just reverts to the previous option. All the others "lock in", and are confirmed by the Instrument cluster. Efficiency mode makes the car handle like my TDI when it was stock :D But it is nice to see the MPG rise a little.

It also rejects RACE in the face-lifted Q5 2013, but it accepts OFF-ROAD! :) I have not driven around though to try and feel the difference of the OFF-ROAD compared to others. Will do it over the next days.

Would anyone happen to have explanations from AUDI on how these modes are intended to work?

[Franky_d]

Oh! Just found some official info on the EFFICIENCY mode:

http://www.audi.in/sea/brand/in/mode...fficiency.html

or

http://www.audi.com/cn/brand/en/mode...e/control.html

I wonder why EFFICIENCY mode is available for China and India, but not in Europe?


... keep looking for info on OFF-ROAD mode...

[thecrave]

I'm looking to do this mod on my Q5, including adding the ADS switch for LHD vehicle -- however, I can't seem to locate the part number for the ESP, PDC switch that ALSO included Hill Start Assist. Previous posts include a function in the 3rd position of that switch that is blind control, however on my Q5 (and I think allroad) have Hill Start Assist in the 3rd spot.

Any thoughts/experience? Thanks!

[SteveYem]

Big thanks to asm777 who posted this list in a thread on the S4 forum.

Here is the compiled list of codes for enabling Drive Select.

If you don't have MMI, you obviously do not have to do the MMI hidden menu stuff. - Just remember to set the adaptations to 3 (Dynamic) instead of 4 (Individual).

I met up with Topgun008 earlier today and got this working on his S4 (with 3G MMI) - I also notice a difference on my car (however, I do not have the ability to switch between modes).
It would be nice to see if anyone else notices a difference.

MMI Hidden Menu - Only for MMI equipped vehicles
[car] [cardevicelist] -> check "carisma"
[car] [carmenuoperation] -> change "carisma" from 0 to 5
Reset MMI - Setup/Scroll Wheel/Top Right

[09 - Cent Elect.] - MMI and non-MMI
Byte 7 -> Bit 5 change 0 to 1

Byte 8 Bit 0 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine/Gearbox (Improved throttle response and puts tranny into "S" mode when "D" is selected)
Byte 8 Bit 1 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Dynamic Steering (Definitely stiffens steering on my car - a lot)
Byte 8 Bit 2 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Engine (Improved throttle response - Not completely sure if I can feel a significant change)
Byte 8 Bit 3 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Suspension (useless for cars w/o ads suspension)
Byte 8 Bit 4 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Steering (not quite sure, doesn't really affect steering on my car)
Byte 8 Bit 5 Change 0 to 1 - Enable Sports Differential (useless without sports diff installed)

Byte 17 -> Bit 7 change 0 to 1 (enable MMI display)

Byte 19 -> Bit 6 change 0 to 1 (enables correct lighting of ADS switch - only if ADS switch installed.

[Security Access - 16] [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 63 -> Change to [see below]
[Security Access - 16] [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 64 -> Change to [see below]
[Security Access - 16] [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 65 -> Change to [see below]
[Security Access - 16] [Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 66 -> Change to [see below]
(all four channels must have the same value)

1 = Comfort
2 = Auto (Factory default)
3 = Dynamic
4 = Individual (Only for activating MMI "Individual" selection)

Referring to the code in bold font above: do I understand it correctly that if I do the Enable Dynamic Steering, Enable Engine and Enable MMI Display mods, then I will be able to toggle between steering and throttle modes from within MMI? (i.e. I won't need to use vag-com to change them?)

Assuming it can be toggled within MMI, could I also set which mode I want as my default each time the car starts?

EDIT: My car has the 3G MMI system

[DavidB8]

Hey Guys, if anyone is thinking about doing this coding but finds it a bit confusing I am working on something that may help. Besides my DIY just about done I have made a special helper for VCDS. It's not ready for launch or anything but the support file for ADS is just about complete.

I can let someone or anyone try it out if you like just give me some feedback. It should make coding Module 9 a breeze for even the newest VCDS user. If you know how to put a file in a directory then delete/move it when your done you are capable of testing this.

Not to worry it's not an EXE or anything, it's a custom label file for VCDS that has been heavily altered.

My original intention and I'm weighing the options now was to make a program you could launch and click on the upgrade you wanted to do it and it would set VCDS up for you to walk you through.

Take a look at the early stages:

[NPuter]

Original post updated for organization and additional instructions/clarifications.

[ASU Daniel]

just ran into this thread, thanks Nick.............I will have to try this when I get back to 'Merica!

[mkato13]

Im gonna have to find some one with VAGCOM in northern NJ area willing to help out or buy the VAGCOM and a netbook. Subscribed