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    B7 A4 2.0T Spark Plugs Replacement Guide v2.0

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    DIAGNOSIS OF A USED SPARK PLUG

    Normal
    Light grey or tan deposits and slight electrode erosion


    Carbon Fouling
    Dry, soft black carbon on the insulator and electrodes

    Symptoms:
    • Poor starting
    • Misfiring
    • Faulty acceleration

    Causes:
    • Faulty choke - over rich air/fuel mixture
    • Delayed ignition timing
    • Bad ignition leads
    • Plug heat range too cold


    Pre-Ignition
    A melted or burned center and/or ground electrode, blistered insulator and aluminum or other metallic deposits on the insulator

    Symptoms:
    • Loss of power causing engine damage
    • Pre-ignition occurs when combustion begins before the timed spark occurs

    Causes:
    • Plug insufficiently tightened
    • Engine insufficiently cooled
    • Ignition timing too advanced
    • Plug heat range too hot


    Over Heating
    An extremely white insulator with small black deposits and premature electrode erosion

    Symptoms:
    • Loss of power at high-speed or during heavy load

    Causes:
    • Plug insufficiently tightened
    • Engine insufficiently cooled
    • Ignition timing too advanced
    • Plug heat range too hot


    Mechanical Damage
    Bent electrode and a broken insulator, dents often present on electrode

    Symptoms:
    • Misfiring

    Causes:
    • Plug nose is too long for engine head
    • Foreign object (bolt/nut) in combustion chamber

    Oil Fouling
    Wet, oily black deposits on the insulator and electrodes

    Symptoms:
    • Poor starting
    • Misfiring

    Causes:
    • Wrong piston rings, cylinders, and valve guides
    • Fuel mixture oil content too high


    Broken Insulator
    Insulator is cracked or split

    Symptoms:
    • Misfiring

    Causes:
    • Severe detonation
    • Incorrect tool/torque applied during installation or removal
    • Careless gap setting


    Torched Seat
    Melted in the thread and seat area of the plug housing

    Symptoms:
    • Loss of power causing engine damage

    Causes:
    • Plug insufficiently tightened


    WHICH SPARK PLUG IS RIGHT FOR ME?

    Auto makers built their cars to be maintenence-free, and no prudent consumer in their right mind would buy a car with plugs that you have to change every 3000-5000 miles these days (unless it was a hand-me-down used car). Most modern day vehicles will use iridium, while most are using platinums.

    Platinum plugs (and Iridiums) were introduced to provide longevity (60k-100k+) to vehicles compared to copper plugs which foul after 3000-5000 miles, but they do NOT dissapate heat fast enough (which leads to pre-ignition/detonation) and do NOT provide a "better spark" like they have claimed...with their "fine-wire electrode" (which only causes problems).

    Copper is one of the best conductors of electricity and heat, but they just plain dont last. Using Platinum and Iridium plugs, the center electrode (fine-wire) thin, that under high boost, they get so hot, they will begin to "heat glow" and cause premature ignition in the combustion cycle (pre-ignition => detonation) unless they were properly designed to pull the heat. This is a problem for all of us turbo guys running high boost. Copper on the other hand, has a much thicker center electrode, on top of that, the copper material is able to dissapate heat from the combustion chamber fast enough to keep the combustion temperatures lower. Coppers use thicker electrodes simply based on the fact that they can easily jump the spark, whereas platinum and iridiums will require a fine wire to better direct the spark to prevent missfires.

    Remember the two primary functions of a spark plug:

    1) To efficiently ignite the A/F mixture without mis-fires (Gap, etc)
    2) To pull heat from the combustion chamber into the head, where the cooling system should dissapate that heat. (Heat Range)

    With those two in mind, coppers will work much better in these environments. For those thinking: "What If I just simple use a colder Platinum plug?" Well, for the kind of boost our A4's make with the Krispy-Kreme K03's, we will reach EGT's of over 900 degrees C (keeping in mind that pre-ignition can start to occur at around 870 degrees C). Once those colder platinums reach preignition temperature, it will take them FOREVER to dissapate that amount of heat (with the details about the material/design I mentioned above). A platinum/Iridium plug in a colder heat range usually runs just as hot as a copper in the standard heat range when under high stress. So many people will use a Platinum/Iridum plug TWO steps colder to counter that. But using a plug that is 2 steps colder, will lead to two things:

    1) More prone to carbon-fouling on "normal driving" where EGT's are kept low. (Plugs must stay above 550C Deg to burn off excess carbon deposits to "self-clean")
    2) As a result, loss of horsepower from a less efficient/inhibited spark.

    You need a plug that is actually "hot enough" to ignite the A/F mixture as hot as possible to get the most efficient combustion, as well as burn off carbon-deposits (~550C deg), and yet cold enough to prevent pre-ignition when compression is high (< 870C Deg).


    Quick cross-reference guide for all the plugs listed above in heat range:
    (VW/Audi Factory heat range in bold)

    NGK - | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 |
    Denso - | 18 | 20 | 22 | 24 | 27 |
    Bosch - | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 |
    Champion - | 11,12 | 9,10 | 7,8 | 61,63 | 59 |

    OEM Range - Stock car with stock boost/timing, or mildly-tuned car in cold climates.

    Recommended plugs in this heat range:
    • NGK FR7S8EG (OE Platinum)
    • Bosch FR6KPP332S (OE Platinum)
    • Bosch F6DTC (Tri-Electrode)
    • NGK BKR7E (Copper)
    • NGK BKR7EIX (Iridium version of the same plug above)
    • Denso K22R (Copper)
    • Denso IK22 (Iridium version of the same plug above)

    One Step Colder - Cars with basic performance upgrade (chip/intake/exhaust) - k03, k04, etc.

    Recommended plugs in this heat range:
    • NGK BKR8E (Copper)
    • NGK BKR8EIX (Iridium Version of the same plug above)
    • NGK R5672A-8 (Copper, Non-Resistor plug)
    • Denso K24R (Copper)
    • Denso IK24 (Iridium Version of the same plug above)
    • Bosch FR5DTC (Tri-Electrode)
    • Bosch F5DP0R (Platinum/Side Fire)**

    Two Steps Colder - Cars with bigger turbos will benefit from these, whereas a regularly chipped car may foul these.

    Recommended plugs in this heat range:
    • Champion C59YC (Copper)
    • NGK BKR9EIX (Iridium)
    • Denso IK27 (Iridium)

    ** - Many members have found real good luck with the Bosch F5DPOR's, this is why:

    Despite all the "con's" about platinums (poor conductivity, poor heat dissapation qualities), the engineers at Bosch has managed to engineer the F5DPOR's so that they are still able to fire the A/F as well as pull away enough heat. The F5DPOR's unlike conventional plugs, use a "Side-Fire" technology, where instead of a standard "projected" electrode into the combustion chamber, the ground electrode was placed on the edge of the plug so that it fires closer to the flame kernel. By doing so, the F5DPOR's are able to still keep a thick center electrode (to pull heat away faster) without having to go with a smaller electrode in order to fire. The F5DPOR's heat range is also equavalent to that of a NGK #8 (TWO steps colder than stock), in order to give the same effect as a #7. But because it is a platinum plug and not copper, they will not foul "as" easily where a copper would have. Because of these two important attributes, Bosch was able to use these plugs to both last like other platinums (up to 60k), while still function under more extreme environments. Platinums however, still do not compare to iridiums in longevity, as well as heat/electro conductivity.

    QUESTIONS & ANSWERS SECTION


    Question:
    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    How cheap are the copper plugs? Can you actually feel a difference in performance?
    Answer:
    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    I got mine for $3 each so $12 for a set of 4.. For that price, it's worth trying them out yourself
    Question:
    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    Also, do you recommend a .028 gap on the coppers?
    Answer:
    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    I gapped the plugs from it's specs (0.028") to 0.032" (do not go over). The minute I fired up the car, the exhaust tone became a LOT deeper. So I took the car around the block, then on the highway doing some 0-100MPH pulls - the car became a LOT smoother! The powerband of the turbo will now make boost past 5000RPM and the spool-up became noticeably quicker. The hesitation I used to experience at 5000RPM disappeared and the idle became a lot smoother.

    By simply switching spark plugs, I would say that my "butt-dyno" pretty much felt another 5-10hp difference in power.
    Question:
    Quote Originally Posted by matthewb2795 View Post
    Stock gap is .028 right? .032 is recommended for tuned cars. Or is the opposite true?
    Answer:
    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    Well it depends on what you mean by stock but coming straight from the factory, our OEM spark plugs are actually UNDER-GAPPED at 0.027". Since OEM spark plugs were made for longevity (~50k+ miles), they were set at a lower gap because the gap will eventually get bigger through time and wear on the electrodes.

    IMHO from personal experience, I believe a 0.032" gap is optimal for our cars.

    Since I currently use NGK spark plugs on my B7A4 and quite familiar with them, let's go over what to look for and what to set the gaps at when using NGK as an example (the same concept can be applied to other brand spark plugs)

    This is how NGK's numbering system typically works:
    Most NGK spark plugs you find at your local auto parts store end with a (-xx) after the part number; which signifies a pre-gap.

    For example, if you got a set of BKR7E-11's (although those are very hard to find), the -11 denotes a 1.1mm or 0.044" pre-gap. A BKR7E-8 would be a 0.8mm or 0.032" pre-gap, and so forth.. However, part numbers that do NOT have a (-xx) such as BKR7E will indicate the default gap of 0.0315" (basically a 0.032"). So do NOT get that confused.

    Many people who use the BKR6E's often buy the BKR6E-11's instead since it's OEM recommended for many vehicles, which comes with a HUGE gap of 1.1mm or 0.044". In order for it to work properly with the gap you want (0.032"), you need to bang the crap out of the ground strap just to make 0.032". But by then, the strap is already crooked and bent. This will lead to more mis-fires and pre-mature wear. You typically want a spark plug that's pre-gapped as close as possible to your desired gap - best way to keep the center and ground electrodes parallel.

    A general rule of thumb:
    Always stay within a +/- 0.008" gap range when re-gapping. Basically, a 0.032" plug should be gapped no less than 0.024" and no more than 0.040". (This applies to most plugs using a single ground electrode strap. Multi-electrode straps are a different beast that I'm sadly not familiar with.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake@JHM View Post
    UPDATE:


    We noticed right away when we started the development on our JHM 2.0T Tuning some months back that my A4 was being a bit hesitant and misfiring as soon as the car would start boosting above 10psi. Our first instinct was that there was an issue with my spark plugs based on our years of firsthand experience with turbo Audis in our shop. After removing my spark plugs, we checked the gap and they were all at .045 which is why I was getting the misfire. The plugs that came out of my car were Denso PK20PR11 plugs, and looking at their website it shows that those are the plugs that Denso recommends for the B7 A4 2.0T, yet they come at their recommended gapped of .044. However, Audi recommends that the plugs be gapped at .028 which is quite different than a .044 gap, so always make sure your plugs are at the right gap before you install them as whoever installed these plugs in the car before I purchased it, did not. The increased gap over stock (recommended is .028 by Audi) adds more resistance for the coil to fire across the gap. This is okay sometimes when boost levels are stock since the engineers have to factor in spark plug wear. However when you add boost it increases the resistance to jump the gap and it is just like increasing your gap even more, hence the misfires. My car most likely would have been okay if the installer of the Denso plugs would have regapped them to spec. However we do not believe in using plugs that aren’t a close to stock gap since they were most likely engineered for a non-boosted application.

    Denso Plug:



    I replaced my Denso Spark Plugs with the OEM Bosch Spark Plugs we have on our website HERE! I made sure they were gapped at .028 prior to install for our tuning development purposes. This was because we have to make sure that everything is functioning 100% perfect at the stock plug gap for those people who would be purchasing the tune and still on their original plugs (I know the gap size will increase over time as they get used, however we have seen quite a few very low mileage 2.0Ts). Needless to say we would have been okay with the off the shelf gap of .032, but they would have .004 gap less to work with as they wore down with mileage.

    Spark plugs are essentially the center of your car’s ability to run and make power. When you increase your boost, you are increasing your cylinder pressure which makes your coil packs have to work harder to jump the given gap. The shorter gap will also help insure a better fire with more consistency. Considering that your plugs can fire over 100 times a second, making sure that you keep the best gap for your application is a must. That way you will always have a proper burn and not have a spark plug caused misfire. That being said, a .028 (Factory spec) gap is going to be much less strain on the coil packs/motor than .044, hence why I was misfiring when my cylinder pressure increased.

    In addition, the spark plug works as a heat exchanger by pulling the unwanted thermal energy from the combustion chamber. The heat range given to a spark plug defines the spark plugs ability to dissipate the heat. Both Bosch and NGK are popular spark plug manufacturers and their heat range designations both utilize a number between 1 and 10 and are often times confused with each other. NGK goes down a number every time the heat range gets HOTTER and Bosch goes down a number every time the heat range gets COLDER. For the 2.0T the OEM Heat Range for NGK is “7” and the lower the number for NGK, the hotter the heat range is (like stated previously). For example, the BKR6E is going to be hotter than the BKR7E. The OEM Heat Range for Bosch is “6” and the lower the number, the colder it is (like stated previously). For example, the F5DPOR is going to be a colder plug than the F6DTC. The rate of heat transfer for the spark plug is determined by a few things; the length of the insulator nose, gas volume around the insulator nose, the material of the center electrode, and the construction of the porcelain insulator. Keep in mind, the spark plugs heat range has no relationship to the actual voltage that is being transferred through the spark plug!

    There is a lot of information to take in to understand sparkplugs, and at time can be quite confusing. That is why we have done the research for you and are here to supply you with the correct sparkplugs for your application.



    OEM Replacement Spark Plugs:

    There are two different spark plugs that came in the B7 A4 2.0T. Therefor both choices will be a direct replacement for your vehicle. We have had great experiences with both of these manufactures and choice will ultimately come down to preference.

    Bosch - FR6KPP332S Long Life Platinum (Heat range 6)



    Click HERE for more information!


    NGK - PFR7S8EG Laser Platinum (Heat range 7)



    Click HERE for more information!


    Higher Boost Applications:

    The following plugs are pre gapped at a perfect width to keep misfires away on high boost applications. We use these plugs in our race cars and customer’s cars with great success.

    Bosch - F5DPOR Platinum Sidefire (Heat range 5, one heat range colder than stock)



    Click HERE for more information!


    Bosch - FR5DTC Tri-Electrode (Heat range 5, one heat range colder than stock)



    Click HERE for more information!

    Bosch - F6DTC Tri-Electrode (Heat range 6, same heat range as stock) Note: This is a good lower cost replacement for stock cars or cars mostly stock with just a tune.




    Click HERE for more information!

    NOTE: The spark plug torque spec is 30nm or 22 Ft-lbs. Remember to use Anti-Seize on the threads for easy removal and corrosion protection.


    If you have any questions please feel free to ask. I am here to help!



    Jake
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    thanks Stokes, yet again another great write up man keep em comin!
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    Great stuff here. Thanks for taking the time to put it together for us!
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    Thanks for the write-up; great stuff as usual.

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    Great info. Does anyone here actually use copper plugs? It seems like a lot of work changing your plugs every oil change.

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    I use copper plugs (NGK BKR7E) and change them every oil change.
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    How cheap are the copper plugs? Can you actually feel a difference in performance?
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    I got mine for $3 each so $12 for a set of 4.. For that price, it's worth trying them out yourself
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    Also, do you recommend a .028 gap on the coppers?
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    nice write up, i plan on doing a nice little service to my car next oil change

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    Just a note on choosing between a copper and irridium plug. The coppers are 3-4 times cheaper, but the irridiums will last 5-6 times longer...so even though coppers are cheaper to buy, the irridiums are the better value overall. I have ran both the plugs below and did not notice a difference in performance, smoothness, idling, ect. Got about 5k out of the coppers, 30k out of the irridiums.

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    I ran the NGK BKR6Es in my VR6 on low boost and fouled them allll the time which wasnt surprising. I have the BKR8Es now and they have been awesome. Probably need to change them every couple of months but it takes all of five minutes so no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    Also, do you recommend a .028 gap on the coppers?
    That's what I went with on the BKR6E plugs I swapped in. The plugs I pulled out were OEM, probably in there since it was built 92K kms ago! Gap was well over 0.035 and they had hard white deposits on them.

    Made a very noticeable difference obviously.
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    Great write-up.

    Bosch F5DP0R for me. Really happy with those.

    This thread should be sticky
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    Im going to change mine. I bought the car with 48 and it has 57 now. Who knows when the last time they were changed is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    Also, do you recommend a .028 gap on the coppers?
    I gapped the plugs from it's specs (0.028") to 0.032" (do not go over). The minute I fired up the car, the exhaust tone became a LOT deeper. So I took the car around the block, then on the highway doing some 0-100MPH pulls - the car became a LOT smoother! The powerband of the turbo will now make boost past 5000RPM and the spool-up became noticeably quicker. The hesitation I used to experience at 5000RPM disappeared and the idle became a lot smoother.

    By simply switching spark plugs, I would say that my "butt-dyno" pretty much felt another 5-10hp difference in power.
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    impressive, very informative i wont lie
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    Just posting so that I can refer back to this in the future. Thanks for all of the info.

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    Awesome write up, should throw these into the Tech section or else they eventually die off and only to be found via search function :(

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    Great write-up! Maybe include something about gapping.

    I gapped the plugs from it's specs (0.028") to 0.032" (do not go over)
    Stock gap is .028 right? .032 is recommended for tuned cars. Or is the opposite true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewb2795 View Post
    Stock gap is .028 right? .032 is recommended for tuned cars. Or is the opposite true?
    Well it depends on what you mean by stock but coming straight from the factory, our OEM spark plugs are actually UNDER-GAPPED at 0.027". Since OEM spark plugs were made for longevity (~50k+ miles), they were set at a lower gap because the gap will eventually get bigger through time and wear on the electrodes.

    IMHO from personal experience, I believe a 0.032" gap is optimal for our cars.

    Since I currently use NGK spark plugs on my B7A4 and quite familiar with them, let's go over what to look for and what to set the gaps at when using NGK as an example (the same concept can be applied to other brand spark plugs)

    This is how NGK's numbering system typically works:
    Most NGK spark plugs you find at your local auto parts store end with a (-xx) after the part number; which signifies a pre-gap.

    For example, if you got a set of BKR7E-11's (although those are very hard to find), the -11 denotes a 1.1mm or 0.044" pre-gap. A BKR7E-8 would be a 0.8mm or 0.032" pre-gap, and so forth.. However, part numbers that do NOT have a (-xx) such as BKR7E will indicate the default gap of 0.0315" (basically a 0.032"). So do NOT get that confused.

    Many people who use the BKR6E's often buy the BKR6E-11's instead since it's OEM recommended for many vehicles, which comes with a HUGE gap of 1.1mm or 0.044". In order for it to work properly with the gap you want (0.032"), you need to bang the crap out of the ground strap just to make 0.032". But by then, the strap is already crooked and bent. This will lead to more mis-fires and pre-mature wear. You typically want a spark plug that's pre-gapped as close as possible to your desired gap - best way to keep the center and ground electrodes parallel.

    A general rule of thumb:
    Always stay within a +/- 0.008" gap range when re-gapping. Basically, a 0.032" plug should be gapped no less than 0.024" and no more than 0.040". (This applies to most plugs using a single ground electrode strap. Multi-electrode straps are a different beast that I'm sadly not familiar with.)
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    Great, thanks for the info!

    I put in Bosch 101905631H at the end of the summer. They were pre-gapped to .028. I think I will gap them to .032 this weekend.
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    Dear Mr. Stokes

    I currently have just a carboner intake, exhaust, and GAIC Chip.

    I want to run the NGK Coppers, Currently i have the iridiums, and dont mind changing them more often.

    what is the exact NGK's you use. or better yet, what would you say works best for my setup.

    I also plan on doing rai's test pipe and downpipe. and may one day use my 100oct file that i have, but never have used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangler View Post
    Dear Mr. Stokes

    I currently have just a carboner intake, exhaust, and GAIC Chip.

    I want to run the NGK Coppers, Currently i have the iridiums, and dont mind changing them more often.

    what is the exact NGK's you use. or better yet, what would you say works best for my setup.

    I also plan on doing rai's test pipe and downpipe. and may one day use my 100oct file that i have, but never have used.

    From you're favorite 1/2 Pinoy.

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    NGK BKR7E (copper) gapped to 0.032" - I use the exact same spark plugs on my set-up and change them every oil change (3-5k miles).
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    I wish I had seen this thread before posting in the other one. One more question for you kristokes. What plugs did you have before the BKR7E's? Or maybe to better rephrase it, did you ever have the BKR7IE's and then make the switch to the BKR7E's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by g60_corrado_91 View Post
    I wish I had seen this thread before posting in the other one. One more question for you kristokes. What plugs did you have before the BKR7E's? Or maybe to better rephrase it, did you ever have the BKR7IE's and then make the switch to the BKR7E's?
    Prior to using NGK BKR7E (copper), I used the factory Bosch spark plugs until my first oil change at approx. 5k miles. Since then, I've been using BKR7E and replacing them every oil change..
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    Excellent write up! The B7 forum can use more of these technical posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristokes View Post
    Prior to using NGK BKR7E (copper), I used the factory Bosch spark plugs until my first oil change at approx. 5k miles. Since then, I've been using BKR7E and replacing them every oil change..

    Cool, thanks for the info. I actually installed the BKR7E's on Saturday. The engine seems to run a little smoother, but that may be because they're brand new as well. Still, once in awhile, my old NGK BKR7EIX's would cause the engine to misfire for 5 seconds on a cold start. They were all gapped at .032" so I don't know why they were doing that. My original set of BKR7EIX's never caused misfires like that until they had 40k on them. Then at wide open throttle at about 2500rpm (full boost), I'd get one misfire. It was due to the buildup on the plugs though.

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    I have a 2006 audi a4 non s line with 54k miles. I decided to change the spark plugs and put in the new Pulstar Iridium Series. After I installed them I started the car and it sounded a bit weird like a little knocking sound and I figured the engine is adjusting to the new supposed bigger spark. So I put it in drive and went down the street all of a sudden the car started to jerk and shutter and the check engine light came on. So I went back and checked all of the plugs and they looked fine and the coils were switched and it still did the same thing. Long story short I put back in the stock plugs and car works like a gem. Any comments or suggestions? I was thinking maybe they weren't spaced correctly but they came straight from pulstar.

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    ^ It sounds like your new spark plugs are incorrectly gapped. Purchase a spark plug gapper from your local auto parts store and check the gap on your Pulstar spark plugs.

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    just an fyi anyone planning on running these plugs
    NGK BKR7EIX (Iridium Version of the same plug above)

    factory gaps them at .030
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    Every thing in this thread made sense to me until I read this thread.
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    Help me I'm confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajax2112 View Post
    Every thing in this thread made sense to me until I read this thread.
    http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135855

    Help me I'm confused
    I've had both the stock plugs, the iridium one step colder NGK's, and now the copper one step colder NGK's. I did notice a slightly better idle with the NGK iridium's and coppers over the stock plugs, but otherwise, the performance was about the same. I'm on that forum A LOT (over 15k posts) and I've seen people say similar things. Some of my buddies stick with the factory plugs even on K04'd 2.0T's. Either way, IMO it's not a huge difference with the slightly colder plugs, but it's not hurting anything so I stick with them. FWIW, I used them in -15 degree weather with no problems starting or anything.
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    Awesome tech write! Now time to replace my plugs!
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    Changed mine out, a couple days ago. Since then all sorts of strange happenings................. Car doesn't want to start up each time, sometimes one turn others 3-4. Exhaust is smelling pretty foul, and intermittently I'm getting smoke from the exhaust yesterday it was a thick cloud of white smoke, today not as thick, but still smoke present. A simple drive around the block has the car studdering, and possibly going into limp mod (not sure about limp mode as I don't truly know all that goes into it) Before, I changed the plugs to the 7E's I had a few misfire codes. I attributed them to my plugs since the dealership changed out all 4 coils packs last year. Anyone experience coil packs going bad after just over a year? Pretty sure they are gapped right. Any thoughts?

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    I am putting one step colder NGK in my car next week.... Hope it helps my start up problems

    I ran seafoam through my gas tank about 2 fill ups ago, so that might have had an affect on my stock plugs
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